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Rush: Trump: Let Obamacare Fail
« on: July 18, 2017, 07:07:37 pm »
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/07/18/trump-let-obamacare-fail/


Trump: Let Obamacare Fail

Jul 18, 2017




RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, I want to expand on something here that I just saw President Trump say right before the end of the previous hour. He said that his plan now is to just let Obamacare fail. He’s not gonna own it. He’s just gonna let it fail. Which he’s been saying for months. He said, you know, the smart thing politically for him to do be let it fail and let the Democrats absorb all the blame. Let Obama and the Democrats take the blame. Just let it fail. But Trump said — as a show of good faith — he was gonna work with people to try to replace it, to repeal and replace it rather than just to let it implode, let it fail.

Now, we know that the Trumpster engages in The Art of the Deal at all times, and so this statement of his, which was stated in… It looked like he was in the Cabinet Room. Pence was sitting next to him. A lot of people were there. All the media camera shutters were clicking and flicking there, so this got a wide audience. “I’m just gonna let it fail. I’m not gonna own it. I am not gonna sit here and own this. If this is the way it’s gonna go, I’m just gonna let it fail.” He could be negotiating; he could be serious.

He could mean it that he’s just going to sit by and let the thing fail, and that means old Mitch and the boys can go in there and fail to repeal it and that means Obamacare remains the law of the land. This is where it gets interesting. Obamacare is imploding. It is in the process of consuming itself. If Trump follows through and just says, “I’m gonna let it fail,” and we just sit by and watch premiums go up 45, 50% every year… As we watch insurance companies pull out of the exchanges, as we watch the subsidies end, as we watch the exchanges close, as nobody’s able to buy insurance…

You have the Trump opposition in the, quote, unquote, “elite club” known as the establishment.

What are they gonna do now? See, the objective in the original design of Obamacare was to fail. But it was supposed to fail with Hillary Clinton or another Democrat in the White House. And at the moment of failure, it was then to be suggested almost as a brilliant spur-of-the-moment idea, “Hey, why don’t we just go single payer,” or, “Hey, why don’t we just put everybody on Medicare? Hey, problem solved!” Because at that time, that point in time, premiums would be out of reach, deductibles out of reach, insurance companies closing down and closing up shop, exchanges closing up shop. So it’d be eagerly demanded even maybe by the public.

But now we’ve got Trump who doesn’t want to go single payer, and this the Democrats and the establishment know. So there are two options here, and it’s interesting to note that if you listen to the media and you listen to the Democrats, repealing Obamacare is the worst thing that could be done, but it isn’t. Staying with Obamacare and letting it implode is the absolute worst outcome here. Repealing it means you repeal it. You get rid of every Obamacare law, and that means you start over. But it also raises a question: At what point do you…? Where do you resume?

What do we fall back to?

If Obamacare is repealed and those laws are gone — there are no exchanges, there are no subsidies — then at what point in the past do we go back to? Well, it’s the Wild West, folks. It’s the Wild West. If we repeal it, it’s the Wild West, and then you’re gonna see the traditional manner and behavior of Washington kick into gear and start trying to craft something. This is the theory of the optimists at the vote failure yesterday and last night, that this exact scenario would result, and that the lack of any formal federal health care law (other than what might still be on the books that we’d revert to) will cause, will create the need for immediate legislative action.

Otherwise, it will be said that the insurance companies will once again be in charge of health care because they’re the ones that sell policies. And you can’t get coverage if you don’t have a policy, ’cause it’s so expensive, you can’t pay for it yourself. So that’s Trump’s ultimate… I don’t know if you call it “threat,” but that’s his negotiating position. “Okay. If we can’t vote to repeal this thing, I’m standing by and I’m letting it die. I’m letting it implode. I’m gonna let it fail, and it’s on the Democrats, and I’ll make sure everybody knows it’s on the Democrats.

“I am not gonna own this sucker. It isn’t mine. I had nothing to do with it. I’ve engaged in good-faith efforts to fix this and people aren’t interested. So, fine. If you’re not interested, establishment, you live with the results.” I’m here to tell you: The results of Obamacare imploding are far worse than Obamacare being repealed. Do you agree with me on that, Mr. Snerdley? (interruption) I don’t even think it’s arguable. Everybody agrees. Democrats agree. Well, Nancy Pelosi doesn’t yet see it. She still thinks President Bush is in office running around.

I think she really does, actually. (interruption) Well, I don’t think they care if Pelosi starts imploding. That doesn’t matter. They’re out of party, doesn’t matter. They can shove her off to the side where nobody’s looking and run the show. If the Democrats were in charge, if she was the speaker and were imploding, that’d be problem. But now they can cover it. They can send her off to the home and nobody would know. Just run old Nancy Pelosi videotapes ripping into Bush and Trump and it’d work. But that’s off the topic. Obamacare in place where people can’t afford insurance and they can’t afford the deductible, they can’t afford to use their policy?

The law still says you have to buy it. Remember, the mandates are still there. The fines are still there. Everything’s still there if it isn’t repealed in its present downward spiral, which everybody agrees is happening. Just like everybody agrees the Russians affected the election (laughing), everybody agrees that Obamacare is spiraling out of control. I’m telling you, repealing it would be a much better outcome for people than just sitting with it while it evaporates, and that’s what Trump is threatening to do. Could be a negotiating position.

Could be the case. In any event, our last caller had a great attitude: What if Trump actually decides at some point when it comes to time to reconstitute American health care and they do it legislatively, to bring in some of these outside private sector people and just have ’em do it. Have ’em write legislation. It’s no different now than having it written on K Street. It’s not written in Congress. Most legislation isn’t. But an outright repeal is a political… I wouldn’t say must, but it’s certainly the Republicans have promised this so many times that they have to…

(sigh) It still comes down to this fascinating question to me, and the caller said it’s not the answer to the question they’re afraid of. Here’s the question. Ted Cruz… Let me set this up by reminding you what Ted Cruz has told me I don’t know how many times. He told me in the last interview he just did last week for upcoming issue Limbaugh Letter, that the thing that shocked him more than anything his first few days in the Senate was how 90% of what senators do is get reelected. Ninety percent of their time is spent raising money, organizing fundraisers, dealing with the consultants and all who raise the money, planning the events.

The other 10%’s being a senator. It shocked him. It was that blatant, that obvious. Why? Because getting reelected is the most important job every senator thinks he has. Probably to a degree this is true in the House, but he was speaking specifically of the Senate. And yet, if getting reelected is the most important thing, then a question occurs to me.

All of these promises and all of these votes to repeal Obamacare since 2010, now when they have the power to actually do it, they don’t do it, they can’t do it. After all these promises, after all these times being elected on the basis of that promise, and yet they obviously don’t fear the voters in their states nearly as much as they fear something else.

They are clearly willing to incur your wrath at reelection time. They would much rather do that than deal with whatever is gonna happen to them if they vote to repeal it. They’re afraid of somebody. They are concerned about somebody or something, but it isn’t you. Despite the most important thing in their lives, being reelected, that’s what you do. So who is it that they’re more afraid of than you? Who is it that they are the least interested in angering?

Well, yeah, money people, but I want get more specific than that. Of course it’s the money people, the donors and all that, but who are they, and what threat do they have? What threat do they have that can make elected officials more fearful of them than of you? ‘Cause if you don’t show up, whatever else happens is academic. It has to be the fact that whoever it is they’re afraid of can supply them with, in their minds, enough money to win reelection no matter what your opinion of them is.

But it all circles around money, understandably. And there’s nothing new about that. I’m not claiming to have discovered anything earth-shattering here. But I just find it interesting. So on the table, Donald Trump: I’m gonna let it fail. I am going to let it fail. I am not gonna own this. This is an utter failure, utter disaster. I’ve tried. I worked with people. Obviously we don’t have enough Republicans who want to vote this way. We need more Republicans in 2018, but I’m gonna let it fail ’cause I am not owning this baby.

So failure, which is Obamacare, stays in place with all of its problems, expenses, failures versus repealing it. I’m telling you, the most painful choice here is leaving Obamacare in place.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here’s Patty in is it New Berlin or New Berlin, Illinois?

CALLER: New Berlin.

RUSH: New Berlin. How you doing?

CALLER: I’m doing great. I get to talk to you. I had a comment, and then I would like to ask a question about what you just spoke on.

RUSH: Okay.

CALLER: You made the comment that half of the people in America have awakened and that’s why Donald Trump is in office. And I told Mr. Snerdley, I think you could wake up the rest by Skyping in a White House news conference and have them let you explain to America what you just told us about why Congress is doing what they’re doing.

RUSH: Well, you know, the problem with that is you’re supposed to ask questions when they let you Skype into a press conference for the daily —

CALLER: You could.

RUSH: Well, I could say, “Do you think this is right, Mr. Spicer,” and then launch into my five-minute explanation, which of course everybody’d be spellbound by.

CALLER: They would.

RUSH: If you want to see the media blow up, that would be fun. (laughing)

CALLER: It would be fun. And the mainstream media would all be there and maybe let them ask you a question or two. And what would they have to report on the news that night?

RUSH: Yeah, I see your point. I see the way you’re thinking on this. I don’t think they would ask me any questions, and I think when it came time to repeat it, I would be edited out of the daily briefing. But the live broadcast of it, that’s an intriguing thought. The problem with that is — and I’m not trying to be negative here — but the questions, whoever it is, reporters actually in the room or people Skyping in, they don’t get much more than 30 seconds, maybe with a follow-up.

CALLER: Maybe the president would let you have more.

RUSH: Yeah, that probably could be arranged. Spicer, Sarah —

CALLER: It’s a thought.

RUSH: It is a good idea. What is the other thing that you wanted to ask me about?

CALLER: Did you see Senator Lankford make the comment? I saw on the news today that he wanted to have all the senators who disagree on the health care plan get in a room and let ’em talk it out and see if they can’t agree on some things. And he said, but they won’t let us, and I don’t know why.

RUSH: Who is “they” won’t let us?

CALLER: Well, my guess is —

RUSH: McConnell?

CALLER: — McConnell —

RUSH: The leadership?

CALLER: Yeah. But that’s what he said. You can see it. It was on television, so —

RUSH: Well, if it was on television, there’s no question it happened.

CALLER: Yeah. Yeah. But that’s what he said so —

RUSH: I missed — they won’t even let — (crosstalk)

CALLER: — gotta be these RINOs.

RUSH: Look, I know this sounds controversial. It shouldn’t, because it’s staring us in the face. I have a philosophy, folks, and it’s based on my own life. And on this one, I am projecting. I will admit it. I’m using my own life experiences to philosophize about things in general. It has to do with desire. You know, I got fired seven or eight times before I was 32. And of those seven or eight times, I got fired not for reasons of performance or incompetence; I got fired for personal, personality disagreement, whatever other reasons.

I was told I didn’t have what it took, that I don’t understand radio, should go into sales and all this. It was only my desire and love for what I wanted to do and what I was doing that kept me plugging away. I never at any time was motivated by an “I’ll show them” attitude. Never was I motivated by, “I’ll show them,” that wasn’t it. I just loved it. It was what I wanted to do. I was lucky to learn early in life what I wanted to do, and I knew how to define success, even though by the time I’m 33 I still hadn’t had any. I was just on the verge of it, and I’d been working since I was 16.

And I’ve learned from my experience that desire is 80% of achievement. That if you really, really want something, if you really, really, really want to do something, that the vast majority of achieving it is wanting it. I mean, really wanting it. Not a preference, and not, “Gee, I hope this.” I mean really wanting it. It is the desire that makes you do what you have to do to achieve.

I didn’t go to college. I got tired of it. I didn’t want to take ballroom dance taught by a former drill sergeant in the WACs. I didn’t like flunking speech, me, flunking speech. But I realized sometime later, okay, I don’t have a piece of paper that says I’ve been educated, so I’m gonna have to be able to demonstrate that I’m educated. So I began self-teaching. It was all related to desire. These people don’t want to repeal Obamacare. I’m telling you. It’s that obvious to me.

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Re: Rush: Trump: Let Obamacare Fail
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 10:20:16 pm »
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When has ever letting a government program fail resulted in a free market alternative? Nope, it always results in more government 'fixes' and bigger government. Take the NHS in the UK. By all measurable accounts, it has been failing for a half century, but because of all the failures, it keeps growing and growing. Letting it fail is a childish approach that has no historical basis for working.

On top of that, those who want extreme socialist/collectivist solutions bet on programs failing to institute bigger ones. Overloading the system to failure is one of the foundations of the Cloward-Piven strategy.

At that, we were warned from day 1, the end goal was single-payer, and Obamacare was built to fail so single-payer will be put in as a replacement. Even the architect of Obamacare said as much.

http://www.physiciansforreform.org/info/research-center/categories/end-game-socialized-single-payer-system/

'Just letting it fail' is giving the extreme left exactly what they want and planned for.

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Re: Rush: Trump: Let Obamacare Fail
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 10:32:52 pm »
Interesting how Rush's opinion on this changed since Trump took this position. Before, he was saying the exact same thing I did in my prior post. Examples:

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/10/25/obamacare_implodes_as_designed/

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....Obamacare is unaffordable and always has been unaffordable.  Obamacare is unsustainable and always has been unsustainable.  Obamacare was designed to cause panic and harm for millions of Americans in the hope that they would blame insurance companies for their plans and then turn to the government for a solution, for relief, which is exactly what’s happening. .....It is unconscionable what has been done here, and this is just one slice of American life and culture and business, the economy, however you want to phrase it, that this administration has targeted.  Because the aim is to replace as much of this with the government as possible.
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https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/07/10/rush-247-morning-update-single-payer/

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...A complete government takeover of health care is gaining traction among Democrats. So says The Hill. And it’s not a surprise. I warned you that single payer was the Democrats’ plan all along. Obamacare is supposed to fail......



https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/10/22/is_this_gross_incompetence_or_the_planned_path_to_single_payer_health_care/

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Is This Gross Incompetence or the Planned Path to Single-Payer Health Care?

.... That’s why he doesn’t care about any of this minutia. It is why he doesn’t give a darn about it because he knows where it’s gonna end up, and what if that, as I’ve even said so myself on previous programs, is not the plan?

Now that the government is legally in charge of health care, what’s so bad about it screwing up so bad, so much, that people demand it be simplified? And what would simplify it? Get rid of these insurance companies, for God’s sakes, that’s where all the confusion is. You have this company here and that policy there and this deductible over here. Just get rid of that, let the government do it. What if that’s what’s going on? It could very well be, ’cause you know they all want single payer. And Obama has told his union buddies it’s gonna take five, 10, maybe 15 years to get there, that the American people wouldn’t accept it if it were just legislated on ’em, but if they end up demanding it out of a mess like this, that’s what they’re gunning for. .....



https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/04/28/evidence_obamacare_was_built_to_fail/

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...I came across what I think is conclusive evidence that Obamacare is a scam designed to fail during implementation so as to hurry and further along single payer socialized medicine run by the federal government......


..and so on and so on and so on...

Rush preached for a half decade that Obamcare was designed to fail to give the Democrats what they really wanted- single-payer. Now, he is fine with it failing because Trump says so...