Security Footage Shows Robbers Forcing Homeowner To Open His Gun Safe And It Costs Them Their Lives

[thackney]

So that is a push-button combination of four in sequence? is that how it works? That's alright... but only 16 possible combinations, right? That's not real good.

More combinations as each entry can be one or more buttons pushed simultaneously, up to 6 different entry.  Entry meaning button combination. 

Example
1&4
3
2
1&2&3&4
4
2&3
unlock

Some will lock access after enough false entries. 

[roamer_1]

More combinations as each entry can be one or more buttons pushed simultaneously, up to 6 different entry.  Entry meaning button combination. 

Some will lock access after enough false entries.

Oh, that's way better. BUT, it must then be electronic, and must have a chip and a bios, so what is so different between that and a simple thumb-print reader? Not trying to be combative - an honest question...

[thackney]

Oh, that's way better. BUT, it must then be electronic, and must have a chip and a bios, so what is so different between that and a simple thumb-print reader? Not trying to be combative - an honest question...

My experience with fingerprint readers have had a failure rate much higher than I would accept for accessing my weapon.

[roamer_1]

My experience with fingerprint readers have had a failure rate much higher than I would accept for accessing my weapon.

I dunno that playing a tune on buttons is going to be all that much more reliable - four points of failure instead of one... Ever had the 'M' go out on your keyboard? Jussayin.

[thackney]

I dunno that playing a tune on buttons is going to be all that much more reliable - four points of failure instead of one... Ever had the 'M' go out on your keyboard? Jussayin.

I've got a whole lot of keys on my laptop and one fingerprinter reader.  After a couple years, only the fingerprint reader has failed, and on a frequent basis.

Imagine having mud, oil or blood on your finger when you might want to access your gun?  A cut?

[roamer_1]

I've got a whole lot of keys on my laptop and one fingerprinter reader.  After a couple years, only the fingerprint reader has failed, and on a frequent basis.

Imagine having mud, oil or blood on your finger when you might want to access your gun?  A cut?

Right... all I am saying is none of it is the access I have now (which is wide open)... I just know the time the thing will fail is when I need it not to...

I dunno. That's why it's a touchy thing.

[Smokin Joe]

Right... all I am saying is none of it is the access I have now (which is wide open)... I just know the time the thing will fail is when I need it not to...

I dunno. That's why it's a touchy thing.

Kinda where I'm at, too. Every gadget I ever met has a critical detector in it, that determines how bad you need it to work and performs in inverse proportion to that need.

[roamer_1]

Kinda where I'm at, too. Every gadget I ever met has a critical detector in it, that determines how bad you need it to work and performs in inverse proportion to that need.

... Which is why I stayed with a colt 45 almost all my life... outside of bad ammo, it just has to go bang. still sketchy about this 1911 semi auto thingy... Only other time I ever owned one was the only time I REALLY needed to kill a griz... and it stove-piped. 6 fer shers are worth more than 8 maybes...

[Smokin Joe]

... Which is why I stayed with a colt 45 almost all my life... outside of bad ammo, it just has to go bang. still sketchy about this 1911 semi auto thingy... Only other time I ever owned one was the only time I REALLY needed to kill a griz... and it stove-piped. 6 fer shers are worth more than 8 maybes...

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

[roamer_1]

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

Other than a matched pair of nickel Glock 9s' in shoulder holsters (I almost kinda won them in a crazy good deal) which I never use, and I have never even shot (though they'd be sweet if I ever own a suit again), I don't have anything but utility.

I am somewhat the opposite of you in that.
But, If I can stomach this 1911 and get to where I like it, I have no doubt I will be going to a S&W MP and Shield... That's where I want to go... They shoot like budda, and they fit my hand. The 1911 is just a practice run before I shell out the money for the big show.

I get it, and I can change... if I have to.

I just have magic with an old Colt. I don't even hardly have to aim. It's been a piece of me for so long, it is just second nature. That's hard to give up.

I'm kinda stuck with it now.... I already cut up my rocker holster and refit it to the Rock Island.

[Bigun]

Other than a matched pair of nickel Glock 9s' in shoulder holsters (I almost kinda won them in a crazy good deal) which I never use, and I have never even shot (though they'd be sweet if I ever own a suit again), I don't have anything but utility.

I am somewhat the opposite of you in that.
But, If I can stomach this 1911 and get to where I like it, I have no doubt I will be going to a S&W MP and Shield... That's where I want to go... They shoot like budda, and they fit my hand. The 1911 is just a practice run before I shell out the money for the big show.

I get it, and I can change... if I have to.

I just have magic with an old Colt. I don't even hardly have to aim. It's been a piece of me for so long, it is just second nature. That's hard to give up.

I'm kinda stuck with it now.... I already cut up my rocker holster and refit it to the Rock Island.

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

My open carry piece is a CZ75B with Speer Gold dots.

[thackney]

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

My open carry piece is a CZ75B with Speer Gold dots.

I like a punt gun for open carry, 2 gauge.

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[roamer_1]

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

Less concerned with the Shield than the full size MP... I like the pair for interchangeability - which I know, is limited and incidental, but that is better than none...

But that full size flat rocks for me... a friggin work of art.

[Bigun]

Less concerned with the Shield than the full size MP... I like the pair for interchangeability - which I know, is limited and incidental, but that is better than none...

But that full size flat rocks for me... a friggin work of art.

Although they have always made fine wheel guns, I never much cared for their semi autos until they came out with that M&P line!  Love those!

[txradioguy]

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

I'm trying to decide between my 1911 and my new Sig as to which I'll carry concealed.  I'm leaning towards the 1911 because of the narrower profile.

I've decided that my .38 is going to be my bedside gun.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm trying to decide between my 1911 and my new Sig as to which I'll carry concealed.  I'm leaning towards the 1911 because of the narrower profile.

I've decided that my .38 is going to be my bedside gun.

Not counting the .38 (parka pocket gun for winter), I carry the .45 or the P228, the latter because I like having more rounds in the mag, the former because it is slimmer and packs a wallop. Open carry, it's a Super Blackhawk in a cowboy rig, but that's in the boonies.