Sen. Rand Paul on Obamacare: 'We gotta really repeal it'

[INVAR]

Unless it's totally repealed, any gypsy fortune teller would tell you, 'Single Payer' within a decade.

That was the end-game from Day 1.

If the ACA can be tweaked depending on the ruling Party and you retain said legislation...you effectively legitimize it.

The Federal and State governments need to GTFO of healthcare. Period.

....cept for Medicare, of course.     

On this my friend, you and I are in total complete and perfect agreement.

In fact that should become a meme to preach anytime the GOP talks about healthcare  - ANY legislation that does not REPEAL ObamaCare in-full, in-total, root and branch - is a vote for Single Payer in the near future.

[DCPatriot]

On this my friend, you and I are in total complete and perfect agreement.

In fact that should become a meme to preach anytime the GOP talks about healthcare  - ANY legislation that does not REPEAL ObamaCare in-full, in-total, root and branch - is a vote for Single Payer in the near future.

 

[TomSea]

Thanks to these RINOS who will keep Planned Parenthood funded, they are on the same side as the demon rats.

[txradioguy]

Thanks to these RINOS who will keep Planned Parenthood funded, they are on the same side as the demon rats.

Remind me again who signed the spending bill that continued to fund them?

[Sanguine]

My plan this weekend is to write an email to every federal representative I can find, and tell them that I want to see them act within the limits set by our Constitution, immediately develop and pass a means to fully repeal 0bamacare, fund a border-barrier, and work to quickly develop a tax-reform plan. 

[Drago]

Rand's plan...(I kinda like it):  https://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ObamacareReplacementActSections.pdf

[austingirl]

My plan this weekend is to write an email to every federal representative I can find, and tell them that I want to see them act within the limits set by our Constitution, immediately develop and pass a means to fully repeal 0bamacare, fund a border-barrier, and work to quickly develop a tax-reform plan.

I emailed Lamar Smith, Ted Cruz, and John Cornyn and in their mealy-mouthed answers not a one of them is talking full repeal. I have never heard a satisfactory answer from anyone in the GOP about why they can't repeal as they voted on when Bammy was in office.

[Bigun]

Rand's plan...(I kinda like it):  https://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ObamacareReplacementActSections.pdf

Beats the trash they are currently trying to sell ALL to hell!

[Wingnut]

I used to like Ron's Kid.  But the kid is defective on so many issues I can't listen to him anymore.

[INVAR]

I emailed Lamar Smith, Ted Cruz, and John Cornyn and in their mealy-mouthed answers not a one of them is talking full repeal. I have never heard a satisfactory answer from anyone in the GOP about why they can't repeal as they voted on when Bammy was in office.

It has been made abundantly clear by the Oligarchy and it's Establishment - they have absolutely NO INTENTION of repealing ObamaCare.

They all want Single Payer that ObamaCare is designed to usher in, and all this crap we are watching is just kabuki theater.

The handful that actually would like to repeal it because they still care about those who voted for them - have been told to pound sand and/or play along.

O'Care is here to stay folks - whether it collapses the entire health insurance market altogether (by design) or they manage to put band aids on the misery to string it out long enough before they have to usher in Single Payer/DMV/VA healthcare for all - those who drive the Beast or think they will benefit from it - will ensure it happens.

You and me, the little people to whom they boldfaced lied to about repeal "root and branch", hold us in utter contempt - and have already threatened to "punch us in the nose" and force us to sit down and shut up. 

You are never going to hear anything but a bunch of bullshit two-faced political gobbedely gook speech (ala Cruz) while doing nothing but placating and grandstanding.

[corbe]

   As usual @INVAR I agree with most all you stated above, The whole thing has indeed proven to be nothing but a travesty, from the get-go.
   I take offense to you bringing Cruz into this, he is among the few Giants in the Senate standing up to this crap, IMHO.

[montanajoe]

It's not getting repealed..Rand is just another Hillbelly 
 
The present healthcare debate really comes down to a unexpressed debate on the value of  human life. It's been the mantra of the GOP that human life is invaluable and abortion is therefore unacceptable, that life should be prolonged at all costs and it is up to the creator and not the government to make that call..

The Dims have approached that unfortunate dicatomy by funding both the abortion mill and Obamacare with a guarantee of unlimited federal funding regardless of prognosis. The GOP, now that they control the presidency and the congress are struggling because they have always had the mentality of the opposition rather than the governing party. They are finding out a governing party cannot easily take  back  the federal dollars promised by the other guys while they were in the minority and stay in offiice.

The most important thing to today's  politician whether dim or gop is getting reelected.

The liberals are going to be profoundly disappointed that their Utopian socialist society will not come to fruition in today's America. The  social  conservatives who still held a glimmer of hope that the GPO reflected even 10% of their values will be equally disappointed.

In the end the GOP will do the same thing as the Dims...fund both sides while promising their voters they are  not.

[INVAR]

   As usual @INVAR I agree with most all you stated above, The whole thing has indeed proven to be nothing but a travesty, from the get-go.
   I take offense to you bringing Cruz into this, he is among the few Giants in the Senate standing up to this crap, IMHO.

I'm bothered by Cruz' written reply to @austingirl which reads like your typical political brush-aside with zero substance and nothing but trite talking points designed to placate their concerns without spelling out any intentions Cruz himself has of repealing the travesty:

Full repeal is the only way. I emailed him about this yesterday and his response : "Please be assured that I will continue to work closely with my Senate colleagues, from across the ideological spectrum, on consensus reforms to make health insurance more affordable."

He did mention :  For the past seven years, Republicans have run for Congress on a commitment to repeal Obamacare. On May 4th, the House of Representatives was able to come together to improve their first draft and pass a bill to start the process of fulfilling the congressional majority's longstanding promises to reduce premiums and make health care more affordable."

His response seems to be double-speak. Reducing premiums and making health care more affordable is not the same as fully repealing Obamacare.

I am disappointed.

While Cruz was the guy I wanted to vote for, I do have to admit his political polish was off-putting at times, and this reply to austingirl is one of those jitters I have of him.  We do not want 'consensus' with the Democrats - we want them to keep their damned promise to repeal this beast 'root and branch' and stop playing games and talking out of both sides of their mouths.

[austingirl]

   As usual @INVAR I agree with most all you stated above, The whole thing has indeed proven to be nothing but a travesty, from the get-go.
   I take offense to you bringing Cruz into this, he is among the few Giants in the Senate standing up to this crap, IMHO.

From Cruz's response to me. "Please be assured that I will continue to work closely with my Senate colleagues, from across the ideological spectrum, on consensus reforms to make health insurance more affordable."

No mention of full repeal anywhere in his reply. I am extremely disappointed.

[corbe]

I'm bothered by Cruz' written reply to @austingirl which reads like your typical political brush-aside with zero substance and nothing but trite talking points designed to placate their concerns without spelling out any intentions Cruz himself has of repealing the travesty:

While Cruz was the guy I wanted to vote for, I do have to admit his political polish was off-putting at times, and this reply to austingirl is one of those jitters I have of him.  We do not want 'consensus' with the Democrats - we want them to keep their damned promise to repeal this beast 'root and branch' and stop playing games and talking out of both sides of their mouths.

   I read that when @austingirl posted it @INVAR and it did indeed bother me also, and in fear of sounding like a Trumpster propping up my favorite, Ted is one of our last defenses.

   We just have so few tools left these days and a COS or a NEW Federalist Party seems further away from reality than I care to admit.

[austingirl]

I'm bothered by Cruz' written reply to @austingirl which reads like your typical political brush-aside with zero substance and nothing but trite talking points designed to placate their concerns without spelling out any intentions Cruz himself has of repealing the travesty:

While Cruz was the guy I wanted to vote for, I do have to admit his political polish was off-putting at times, and this reply to austingirl is one of those jitters I have of him.  We do not want 'consensus' with the Democrats - we want them to keep their damned promise to repeal this beast 'root and branch' and stop playing games and talking out of both sides of their mouths.

I think you are right that all the congresscritters want single payer eventually. It gives them more power and control over us peasants, more money to dole out as they see fit. I donated to Cruz's campaign several times and will never do so again.

As far as I can tell Paul and Lee are the only two who continue to mention full repeal.

[INVAR]

   I read that when @austingirl posted it @INVAR and it did indeed bother me also, and in fear of sounding like a Trumpster propping up my favorite, Ted is one of our last defenses.

Then this issue is the PERFECT TEST to see whether or not our faith in Cruz to uphold Conservative principles is well-placed or not.

Thus far, I'm not impressed.  If there ever was an issue to make a stand upon - this is the issue: repealing ObamaCare root and branch.  It has no place existing in a Constitutional Republic.

So either he works to get rid of it as he and his party promised and made fake attempts to do so throughout Obama's tenure - or he is as compromised as the rest of cabal at Mordor on the Potomac.

We do not want consensus in keeping the supreme form of Socialism viable, and yet that is what he wrote he is working to do.

[kevindavis007]

All Rand needs to do is submit the bill.. Try to get the votes plain and simple.

[txradioguy]

I emailed Lamar Smith, Ted Cruz, and John Cornyn and in their mealy-mouthed answers not a one of them is talking full repeal. I have never heard a satisfactory answer from anyone in the GOP about why they can't repeal as they voted on when Bammy was in office.

Probably one of their staffers responding to you anyway.