New study confirms the oceans are warming rapidly

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New study confirms the oceans are warming rapidly
Although there’s some uncertainty in the distribution among Earth’s ocean basins, there’s no question that the ocean is heating rapidly


An Argo float is deployed into the ocean Photograph: CSIRO

As humans put ever more heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere, the Earth heats up. These are the basics of global warming. But where does the heat go? How much extra heat is there? And how accurate are our measurements? These are questions that climate scientists ask. If we can answer these questions, it will better help us prepare for a future with a very different climate. It will also better help us predict what that future climate will be.

The most important measurement of global warming is in the oceans. In fact, “global warming” is really “ocean warming.” If you are going to measure the changing climate of the oceans, you need to have many sensors spread out across the globe that take measurements from the ocean surface to the very depths of the waters. Importantly, you need to have measurements that span decades so a long-term trend can be established.

These difficulties are tackled by oceanographers, and a significant advancement was presented in a paper just published in the journal Climate Dynamics. That paper, which I was fortunate to be involved with, looked at three different ocean temperature measurements made by three different groups. We found that regardless of whose data was used or where the data was gathered, the oceans are warming.


Ocean heat content increase globally (top frame) and in four ocean basins (bottom frames). Illustration: Wang et al. (2017), Climate Dynamics

In the paper, we describe perhaps the three most important factors that affect ocean-temperature accuracy. First, sensors can have biases (they can be “hot” or “cold”), and these biases can change over time. An example of biases was identified in the 1940s. Then, many ocean temperature measurements were made using buckets that gathered water from ships. Sensors put into the buckets would give the water temperature. Then, a new temperature sensing approach started to come online where temperatures were measured using ship hull-based sensors at engine intake ports. It turns out that bucket measurements are slightly cooler than measurements made using hull sensors, which are closer to the engine of the ship.

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Another source of uncertainty is related to the fact that we just don’t have sensors at all ocean locations and at all times. ...

Finally, temperatures are usually referenced to a baseline “climatology.” So, when we say temperatures have increased by 1 degree, it is important to say what the baseline climatology is. ...

In the study, we looked at the different ways that three groups make decisions about mapping, bias, and climatology. We not only asked how much the oceans are warming, but how the warming differs for various areas (ocean basins) and various depths. We found that each ocean basin has warmed significantly. Despite this fact, there are some differences amongst the three groups.  ...

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Excerpt.  Read more at https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/jun/26/new-study-confirms-the-oceans-are-warming-rapidly

[Joe Wooten]

If it comes from The Guardian, I do not trust it. They are a leftist rag and communist apologist bird cage liner.

[Wingnut]

The Oceans are rising and warming because people are peeing in the ocean. 

[DB]

Not buying this.

The oceans are a HUGE heat sink. It would take a lot of hot air (large temperature differential between the atmosphere and oceans) to warm the oceans in any timely fashion at all. The thermal mass of the atmosphere is tiny compared to the oceans. That hot air isn't present.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Seems like a good thing, as the plant life should be booming, and then the fish will eat them, then we eat the fish.....

[truth_seeker]

Oceans have warmed, and risen in the past long before any suggestion that human activity would have influenced/caused the warming.

Therefore there have been OTHER factors, which AlGore couldn't make money from. And which liberals couldn't use to force people out of vehicles,, and into ever more crowded violent cities, etc. 

[Smokin Joe]

Submarine volcanism is on the rise, or perhaps alternately, our ability to detect and monitor it is.

Volcanism contributes heat to the water and CO2 to the system, both of which will reduce the ability of the water to maintain CO2 in solution.

 As has been postulated, as the oceans warm, they will release CO2 (which is why CO2 is a trailing indicator of warming, not a forcing agent).

What the article does not say is at what level, in what area, and what rise is considered to be significant.
Too many generalities. Is the increase in temperature an artifact (measurement error or otherwise contributed to by sampling).
 
http://www.nature.com/news/massive-underwater-volcano-erupts-1.17463
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141014092847-97196790-underwater-volcanic-activities-increased-exponentially-in-recent-years
https://www.livescience.com/49710-sea-level-changes-underwater-eruptions.html
http://www.nowgrenada.com/2017/05/increased-activities-submarine-volcano/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/undersea-volcanoes-erupt-with-gravity-shifting-earth-s-climate/

Keeping in mind that many careers in planetary and climate science are predicated on the axiom that humans are going to cause the planet to self-immolate, those ideas will not be discarded easily even should they be incontrovertibly proven false.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Chop off the last 10 years of that graph and look at it: the Atlantic and pacific don't seem to be warming at all. Since 2005, despite ever greater co2 in the atmosphere.

Why?

[Wingnut]

Keeping in mind that many careers in planetary and climate science are predicated on the axiom that humans are going to cause the planet to self-immolate, those ideas will not be discarded easily even should they be incontrovertibly proven false.

They have to keep their phony baloney jobs don't you know.

[driftdiver]

So now my SUV is causing volcanoes?  WOW!

[Suppressed]

If it comes from The Guardian, I do not trust it. They are a leftist rag and communist apologist bird cage liner.

So they bought the Internet and redirected the link provided?

[DB]

Chop off the last 10 years of that graph and look at it: the Atlantic and pacific don't seem to be warming at all. Since 2005, despite ever greater co2 in the atmosphere.

Why?

You will also notice that many of the charts global warming proponents push start around 1979 (I didn't look at these specifically so I don't know if this applies to this case) when we were supposedly entering a new glacial period so everything looks like warming relative to that unusually cold period.

[Joe Wooten]

So they bought the Internet and redirected the link provided?

Lookey here......
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/30/claim-oceans-are-warming-rapidly-study-says/

The guy that wrote that is doing the typical warmista schtick. He's cherry picking data from different sources and fitting them to a pre-conceived conclusion. He's a regular political contributor to the Guardian and is definitely a watermelon. That article is more proof that you should never trust anything printed in that rag.

[Wingnut]

The guy that wrote that is doing the typical warmista schtick. He's cherry picking data from different sources and fitting them to a pre-conceived conclusion. He's a regular political contributor to the Guardian and is definitely a watermelon. That article is more proof that you should never trust anything printed in that rag.

Or anything you see on the Weather Channel.  Man that place is alarmist central!

[Joe Wooten]

Or anything you see on the Weather Channel.  Man that place is alarmist central!

Yep. Our new satellite TV package does not include the Weather Channel and I do not miss it.