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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2017, 05:10:47 pm »
OMG!   I apologize. @Suppressed

Saw that she pinged you in that "quote" and subconsciously attributed it to you.
No need to apologize to me, @DCPatriot.  I was just giving credit where it was due.
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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2017, 05:12:25 pm »
That's show-biz!   Always leave them wanting more is yet another SB meme I suspect we'll be experiencing.....lol.

Trouble is, his version is Always leave them wanting.
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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2017, 05:13:59 pm »
Yes your unabashed love for everything Trump and your constant belief that he can never EVER do anything wrong grew tiresome quite awhile back. 

And your unabashed hate for everything President Trump and your constant belief that he can never EVER do anything right is not only tiresome, it is wrong.  :shrug:

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2017, 05:15:28 pm »
Trouble is, his version is Always leave them wanting.

Ehhh.... since it ain't over yet, that remains to be seen. 

But.... I was supremely disappointed in George W. Bush during his 2nd term... after having voted for him twice.   And boy did he leaving me wanting more (and then some).   Here's hoping that meme won't repeat with Trump's 2nd (or 1st) term, eh?
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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2017, 05:18:05 pm »
That's show-biz!   Always leave them wanting more is yet another SB meme I suspect we'll be experiencing.....lol.

That you and I can agree on, this is 'show-biz'.

Mike Judge had it right.

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« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2017, 05:50:36 pm »
That you and I can agree on, this is 'show-biz'.

Mike Judge had it right.

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« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2017, 06:36:18 pm »
Actually, it's the White House that comes across looking silly.  And petty.  And scared.  And childish.  And foolish.  And thin-skinned.  And immature.  And short-sighted.  And unprofessional.  And clueless.  Etc.

But as long as the low-information types get their red meat, I suppose it's great!


It would save us all a lot of time if you would just write "I hate Trump!"     


We could more easily skip your messages and wouldn't have to waste our time reading your rant which boils down to that exact thing. 


Yes,  we know you hate Trump.   You can quit reminding us.   We get it. 



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« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2017, 06:40:09 pm »
Maybe but anything that annoys the press is okay with me.


I concur.    A Good strategy would be to just keep them in a state of extreme anger and hate.   Let their bile spew forth in such a way that their hatred gets through to the viewers. 


The New York Liberal Democrat controlled media system is the enemy,   and we need to start treating it like an enemy. 

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« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2017, 06:41:53 pm »
Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?



Some people are so angry that they were wrong about Trump winning the election that they grasp at straws to make themselves feel vindicated.   


This is another one of those petty straws. 
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« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2017, 06:44:02 pm »
Because, like it or not (probably not), a free press is critical to the republic.


It is,   but we don't have one.   We have a press that is effectively a "Borg Collective"  group think Hive mind of Liberal orthodoxy.   


We need a free press.   We need the right wing to have equal access to the broadcasting system so that the public can hear the other side of the various issues that confront us as a nation. 

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2017, 08:06:44 pm »
Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?

Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution.  'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.

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« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2017, 08:08:04 pm »
Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution.  'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2017, 08:31:29 pm »

It would save us all a lot of time if you would just write "I hate Trump!"     


We could more easily skip your messages and wouldn't have to waste our time reading your rant which boils down to that exact thing. 


Yes,  we know you hate Trump.   You can quit reminding us.   We get it.

I guess you want to operate at a very simplistic, monodimensional level.  That makes sense, with the way your support leans.  But my post was far more than hating Trump.  My post referred to Trump's behavior...not hatred for him.  My post referred to very specific adjectives that come to mind based on his behavior. 

I don't hate Trump, so posting that would have been disingenuous.  Instead, I posted points of more depth, and you might decide to ignore my posts in the future if that's too much information for you.
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« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2017, 08:34:15 pm »
Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal.


Destroying the propaganda machine ought to be  our number one goal.   Nothing has done more damage to this nation than the one sided spew from New York and Los Angeles.    Nothing.   


Bill Clinton (An utter human scumbag)   was elected because of the New York media deliberately manipulating the news.   So was Barack Obama.   They also nearly got that psychotic hate witch criminal elected through the same sort of manipulation of the news. 


If we aren't focused on destroying this dangerous propaganda system,   we ought to be.   And what is the conservative principle at stake?   That both sides should have equal access in speaking to the public.  BOTH SIDES,  not ONE SIDE.   BOTH!   




As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution.  'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.


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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2017, 08:34:43 pm »
Why would anyone on a GOP internet forum complain about a strategy intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous?

Glenn Beck's Cheetos stunt was "a strategy intended to make [Trump] look ridiculous".  But the fact that it was a failure made it mocked.

Similarly, Trump's ridiculous "strategy" might be intended to make the mainstream press look ridiculous, but when it just makes him look more ridiculous to the majority of viewers (i.e., other than those already leaning his way), then it's worthy to comment that he's concocted yet another failure.
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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2017, 08:35:13 pm »
I guess you want to operate at a very simplistic, monodimensional level.  That makes sense, with the way your support leans.  But my post was far more than hating Trump.  My post referred to Trump's behavior...not hatred for him.  My post referred to very specific adjectives that come to mind based on his behavior. 

I don't hate Trump, so posting that would have been disingenuous.  Instead, I posted points of more depth, and you might decide to ignore my posts in the future if that's too much information for you.


Variations on a theme.   

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2017, 08:41:45 pm »
We know.

You're a lying SOB, posting words that I never said. 

But it doesn't surprise me.  Dishonesty seems to be fine with your ideology.

Why don't you head on out...that way...

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2017, 08:44:38 pm »
Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution.  'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.

The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now.   You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press".  Hell yeah.
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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #94 on: June 26, 2017, 09:04:49 pm »
The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now.   You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press".  Hell yeah.

The problem is that we (and by that I mean leaders) whine about unfairness but then don't get out and compete in the marketplace of ideas well. There are tons of available alternatives, each providing many viewpoints, but we spend all our (again, 'our' as by so-called leaders) bitching and whining versus making our case.

Information is a free market idea like any product. When we want our product to succeed in the free market, we promote our product the best we can. We don't use the strong arm of the government to slap down the competition (cronyism at best, fascism at worst).

The current plan, to bar cameras from press briefings is asinine and does absolutely nothing to help our values- at that, it cuts ourselves off at the knees- removing the visual evidence of our counter arguments if something said in a report is disputed. It is nothing more than a power play, and a foolish one at that- now it leaves the report to be the 'opinion' of the writer, not the facts as captured on film.

If we are failing in the market of ideas, we (again, leaders, not people like you and I whose voice is just a bit and byte) need a big mirror, not daddy government to bring a big hammer and silence anything we don't like. 

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« Reply #95 on: June 26, 2017, 09:12:27 pm »
Last time I checked, 'making the mainstream press look ridiculous' was never a Conservative principle or goal. As a reminder, Conservative principles involve maximizing individual liberty, reducing government, and preserving and protecting the Constitution.  'Making the mainstream press look ridiculous' is kindergarten level trolling games that has absolutely nothing to do with that.


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« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2017, 09:13:14 pm »
The lamestream leftist-biased media is a major part of the problem we conservatives are facing in this country right now.   You're damned straight and better bet that MY conservative principles include combating, fighting and hopefully marginalizing that Pravda-like leftist arm of the Democrat Party that calls itself "the press".  Hell yeah.


So what do you what done??
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« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2017, 09:23:23 pm »
You're a lying SOB, posting words that I never said. 

But it doesn't surprise me.  Dishonesty seems to be fine with your ideology.

Why don't you head on out...that way...



From my recollection,   it is about all you ever do say.   Of course it is always crouched in other words,  but the point always comes through.   

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« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2017, 09:45:00 pm »
The problem is that we (and by that I mean leaders) whine about unfairness but then don't get out and compete in the marketplace of ideas well.



Ha!  Now this is funny.   You are calling that massive trillion dollar broadcasting infrastructure completely owned and controlled by the leftest "elite" members of our society a "free market." 




There are tons of available alternatives, each providing many viewpoints, but we spend all our (again, 'our' as by so-called leaders) bitching and whining versus making our case.


What is this "alternative"  that will allow Conservative voices to reach 20-30 million people every single day without being filtered by the left? 




Information is a free market idea like any product.



"Information"  is not a "free market."    Information is power,  and those people who have the ability to control it or substitute false information have the power to manipulate elections,  and that is what they have been doing since at least John F. Kennedy.   






When we want our product to succeed in the free market, we promote our product the best we can. We don't use the strong arm of the government to slap down the competition (cronyism at best, fascism at worst).


Competition?   How do you have competition in a monopoly?   There is no competition.   I don't know of a single conservative news source that broadcasts to millions of people every night.   All of them are in the hands of liberals,   and liberal censors control what gets on the air. 





The current plan, to bar cameras from press briefings is asinine and does absolutely nothing to help our values-



It establishes the premise that we regard the Media people as enemy combatants for whom we no longer have any respect.    It is a point that very badly needs to get made,  and most especially made from a position of power,  such as the office of the Presidency.   





at that, it cuts ourselves off at the knees- removing the visual evidence of our counter arguments if something said in a report is disputed. It is nothing more than a power play, and a foolish one at that- now it leaves the report to be the 'opinion' of the writer, not the facts as captured on film.


You mean it more accurately reflects what has actually been going on for decades?   Sounds good to me.   Let it be known that these people have always been  pushing their opinions while claiming they were "news."   As far as a "power play"  goes,  yes it is,  and that is exactly the point. 


The Presidency lends legitimacy to the prattlings of these liberal agents,   and now he has demonstrated that he can take it away by denying them face time on Camera in his press conferences. 

As the French put it  " à bon chat, bon rat." 



If we are failing in the market of ideas, we (again, leaders, not people like you and I whose voice is just a bit and byte) need a big mirror, not daddy government to bring a big hammer and silence anything we don't like.


We aren't failing in the marketplace of ideas because there is no open market of ideas.   There is a socialist controlled "stage"  upon which puppets mouth words and make gestures.   A market place of ideas would allow us to show anti-abortion information,  or information about the incidence of diseases running through the homosexual communities.    It would allow us to point out information about Muslim practices  such as this,   or how the crime statistics are always hushed up to ignore the elephant in the room.   


We operate in a system where the left controls and censors what the people may hear.   It is a system that turns the very purpose of "free speech"  on it's ear.   And it's not a "free market"  of ideas.   

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Re: The White House’s New Press Strategy Has Reporters Furious
« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2017, 09:47:26 pm »


We know.
I didn't think we were in the habit around these parts of materially altering someone's post and then claiming it to be a quote. That's downright dishonest.
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