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The pro-Trump group "America First Policies" is preparing a massive seven-figure ad buy against Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV), just hours after the GOP senator announced Friday that he would not support the Senate's bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

The ad buy was first reported by the New York Times' Maggie Haberman, who posted the news on Twitter.

The group was formed by six former members of Trump and Pence's staffs, including former spokeswoman Katrina Pierson and former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates. The group formed in January to gather people who "believe in the Trump agenda," Gates said at the time.


More: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339229-pro-trump-group-to-spend-seven-figures-against-gop-senator-opposing
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What 'repeal' bill?
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So are these clowns going to man up and run ads against Cruz and Lee too?

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So are these clowns going to man up and run ads against Cruz and Lee too?

Trump's regime said back in April that they intend to Primary Freedom Caucus Members who will not back what Trump wants because they were said to be an 'obstacle' to "winning".

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Trump's regime said back in April that they intend to Primary Freedom Caucus Members who will not back what Trump wants because they were said to be an 'obstacle' to "winning".

Except Heller isn't in the Freedom Caucus....and Trump is currently working with guys like Cruz, Paul and other Freedom Caucus members to lay out acceptable amendments to the Health Care Repeal/Replace bill. Cruz, in fact, just came up with a fantastic amendment AND has been clear that he's working hard to get the bill to something he will vote for. The president WILL of course, spend money to work against ANY members who are impeding the conservative agenda he is engaged in making into law...things like border walls, lower taxes, replacing Obamacare, fewer business regulations, crushing the idiotic climate agreements, ending bad trade deals, and nominating a whole rasher of conservative justices from the Supreme Court on down.

Kudos, Mr. President...he'd be a fool not to fight back against an establishment seeking to undermine him...and yes, guys like Heller ARE the establishment.
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I guess I missed it, where is the 'repeal' bill?

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I guess I missed it, where is the 'repeal' bill?

Exactly.

There is no repeal.

Only bullshit rhetoric to classify a bogus bill as 'repeal and replace' to wave off Republican grassroots demands the they keep their promise to repeal ObamaCare "Root and branch".

NONE of these 'bills' even approach 'repeal'.

Dig up the bills they passed in 2015 to repeal ObamaCare - and see if Trump will sign those.
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The pro-Trump group "America First Policies" is preparing a massive seven-figure ad buy against Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV), just hours after the GOP senator announced Friday that he would not support the Senate's bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

The ad buy was first reported by the New York Times' Maggie Haberman, who posted the news on Twitter.

The group was formed by six former members of Trump and Pence's staffs, including former spokeswoman Katrina Pierson and former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates. The group formed in January to gather people who "believe in the Trump agenda," Gates said at the time.


More: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339229-pro-trump-group-to-spend-seven-figures-against-gop-senator-opposing

I don't like this at all.  We should not be running ads against our own people for internal differences.
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Trump's regime said back in April that they intend to Primary Freedom Caucus Members who will not back what Trump wants because they were said to be an 'obstacle' to "winning".

Yet yesterday or the day before, Trump said the four were his good friends, and they would work something out.

In accounting for inventory, that is "First In, First Out." FIFO (regarding Trump's remarks)

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I guess I missed it, where is the 'repeal' bill?

The good Senator from Texas, Mr. Cruz, submitted an amendment to approximate total repeal.

For those unable to grasp the details, then just realize that not even Cruz is on board for the total repeal you insist upon.

« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 05:00:30 pm by truth_seeker »
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I guess I missed it, where is the 'repeal' bill?

You're right, you did miss it.

Of course, if you are referring to a 100% repeal of the entire beast...if you don't have 50 votes, how do you do that? A president Cruz could no more wave a magic wand over that than can President Trump, Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell. Given that reality you get as much as you can...you can sit around and cry hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear...but rational people are here in the real world achieving all that can be achieved in a democratic society.
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You're right, you did miss it.

Of course, if you are referring to a 100% repeal of the entire beast...if you don't have 50 votes, how do you do that? A president Cruz could no more wave a magic wand over that than can President Trump, Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell. Given that reality you get as much as you can...you can sit around and cry hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear...but rational people are here in the real world achieving all that can be achieved in a democratic society.

A President Cruz would probably not get even as much cooperation from the Lites.  But I'd like to take a look at his bill ... maybe it would be something we could compromise on.
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...but rational people are here in the real world achieving all that can be achieved in a democratic society.

Enjoy the Socialism, because that is what your society wants and that is what I continuously hear you folks keep arguing to compromise with time and time and time and time again.

You people keep demanding to compromise further and further and further Left.  What was yesterday decreed to be a crusade to repeal "root and branch' if we would but give them the house, senate and white house is today declared hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear.

So either they lied then and never had any intention to repeal 'root and branch' or they are lying now.

Which means I do not trust your pathetic party to do jack shit except push more of the same Statist garbage that they think they can manage better than Democrats.

What is sad is reading you folks justifying it.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 05:48:57 pm by INVAR »
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Enjoy the Socialism, because that is what your society wants and that is what I continuously hear you folks keep arguing to compromise with time and time and time and time again.

You people keep demanding to compromise further and further and further Left.  What was yesterday decreed to be a crusade to repeal "root and branch' if we would but give them the house, senate and white house is today declared hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear.

So either they lied then and never had any intention to repeal 'root and branch' or they are lying now.

Which means I do not trust your pathetic party to do jack shit except push more of the same Statist garbage that they think they can manage better than Democrats.

What is sad is reading you folks justifying it.

You people... Your Party ... Your Pathetic party ???

Aren't you just the little ray of sunshine.  I'm guessing you've never done a darn thing to achieve the ends you claim to want in America.
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Enjoy the Socialism, because that is what your society wants and that is what I continuously hear you folks keep arguing to compromise with time and time and time and time again.If you want Socialism, the way to get it is to take your ball and go home because you didn't get 100% of what YOU want. Cede the field to them, and they will gladly take it and impose all they want upon you.

You people keep demanding to compromise further and further and further Left.  What was yesterday decreed to be a crusade to repeal "root and branch' if we would but give them the house, senate and white house is today declared hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear. No, the equivalent to hoping for unicorns is thinking 100% of all Republicans are going to vote as you want them to...nobody EVER claimed that would be the case, nor would any thinking person perceive it to be so simple. With MORE Republicans, you get MORE conservative governance...not carte blanche to 100% conservatism in government...for that you need vast majorities of Republicans, and that would have to be reflected in the views of the populace. THAT is how a Republic works.

So either they lied then and never had any intention to repeal 'root and branch' or they are lying now. Or, more rationally, they believe in full repeal but are intelligent enough to understand that takes 50 votes...which they don't have.

Which means I do not trust your pathetic party to do jack shit except push more of the same Statist garbage that they think they can manage better than Democrats. Of course, you have no solution beyond imposing a tyranny of your own.

What is sad is reading you folks justifying it.No, what's sad is the childishness of "its too hard, so I'm taking my ball and going home".

Than tell us how you pass legislation with less than half the votes in each chamber...would love to hear how that's done. Or are you just going to take your ball and go home because not everyone wants what you want?

What you are advocating for is a personal tyranny, in which what you think is right always becomes law....because...well...you know...you are right and they are wrong. Worse, they are evil and foolish whereas you are good and wise. Sounds a lot like how the Leftists approach democracy...as an inconvenient obstacle to imposing their will on the rest of us.
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but rational people are here in the real world achieving all that can be achieved in a democratic society.

We live in a Constitutional Republic.

"Good, More Democracy Means More Socialism." Nikita Khrushchev

Can't count the times I've seen 'Conservative' Columnists make complete asses of themselves referring to America as "Our Democracy"

It's Disgusting.

http://psychroaches.blogspot.com/search/label/Democracy

Screw Democracy.
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You people... Your Party ... Your Pathetic party ???

Aren't you just the little ray of sunshine.  I'm guessing you've never done a darn thing to achieve the ends you claim to want in America.

I was a precinct captain for the GOP in Crook County IL for ten years knocking on doors of countless Democrats and Blue collar Unionistas to argue for the GOP and promote their candidates.  I was heavily involved in the campaign for Peter Fitzgerald and getting him into the Senate over Carol Mosely Braun, the first GOP senator in decades.

Then there the work done outside the party to promote the Constitution, article of freedom and our religious heritage across 6 states beginning in 2003 through an organization I was a member of.

What have you done toots besides bitch and moan on a discussion forum and perhaps cast a ballot?
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We live in a Constitutional Republic.

"Good, More Democracy Means More Socialism." Nikita Khrushchev

Can't count the times I've seen 'Conservative' Columnists make complete asses of themselves referring to America as "Our Democracy"

It's Disgusting.

http://psychroaches.blogspot.com/search/label/Democracy

Screw Democracy.

I'm a poly sci guy...so I'm fully aware we live in a Republic, nor did I state or imply otherwise. What I DID say is that we live in a democratic society, which is also correct. The principles...and potential excesses...of democracy are governed by the Constitutional restraints of our Republican governance.
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You're right, you did miss it.

Of course, if you are referring to a 100% repeal of the entire beast...if you don't have 50 votes, how do you do that? A president Cruz could no more wave a magic wand over that than can President Trump, Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell. Given that reality you get as much as you can...you can sit around and cry hoping for unicorns and rainbows to magically appear...but rational people are here in the real world achieving all that can be achieved in a democratic society.

You present the legislation anyway (like they did under Obama.... when they were shock-sure he would veto it).... and get the lying-ass congresscritters ON RECORD (after running on, campaigning on and promising to repeal the damned thing) when they refuse to vote for it.   Then you vote those azholes the hell OUT next election.  It ain't the rocket science some here are projecting it to be.
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We live in a Constitutional Republic.

"Good, More Democracy Means More Socialism." Nikita Khrushchev

Can't count the times I've seen 'Conservative' Columnists make complete asses of themselves referring to America as "Our Democracy"

It's Disgusting.

http://psychroaches.blogspot.com/search/label/Democracy

Screw Democracy.

Mob rule (ie a ""pure"" democracy) is what they, the radical left, have always wanted for America.  They figure if they call it that enough, it will magically (and fundamentally) transform into it.
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You present the legislation anyway (like they did under Obama.... when they were shock-sure he would veto it).... and get the lying-ass congresscritters ON RECORD (after running on, campaigning on and promising to repeal the damned thing) when they refuse to vote for it.   Then you vote those azholes the hell OUT next election.  It ain't the rocket science some here are projecting it to be.

You get them voted out, and all you get is more Democrats in their place...as they are mostly coming from moderate districts. Then, you lose the House and Senate and get a whole slew of Liberal judges from the Supreme Court on down...along with open borders, big tax increases, abolition of the 2nd amendment...in effect, single payer health care and a host of other left wing agenda items. And, as the nation collapses into decay and rubble...we can all sit on our high horses and proclaim..."don't blame us, it was the democrats".

Yep. Good plan.
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Than tell us how you pass legislation with less than half the votes in each chamber...would love to hear how that's done. Or are you just going to take your ball and go home because not everyone wants what you want?

I'm not the party or people who PROMISED time and again, to repeal "root and branch" the Obamanation that was foisted on us without a single Republican vote and without a single person having read the bill.  So again, either your party LIED about their intention to repeal it root and branch or they are lying NOW. 

You can justify all you like to your heart's content their playing games with myriad excuses of why they cannot do as they promised while they work to better manage Socialism to your applause and approval - but I will not.

And yes, I dumped your party because they no longer stand for the principles they pay lip service to.  They are simply become the Democrats and support their agenda and compromise with their agenda.  I do not support liberals, leftists and socialists, regardless of what letter they stick at the end of their name.

What you are advocating for is a personal tyranny, in which what you think is right always becomes law....because...well...you know...you are right and they are wrong.

Right.  Because Conservatism and Conservative principles and expecting campaign promises to be attempted and fulfilled is 'advocating a personal tyranny'.

Nice to know you have more in common with Hillary Clinton's comments today than one would normally expect.

I'm not in Congress and to suggest I have some kind of power to impose my 'personal Conservative tyranny' upon the nation is just another subtle effort to depict Principled Conservatives as a worse enemy than those you pretend to oppose.
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I'm not the party or people who PROMISED time and again, to repeal "root and branch" the Obamanation that was foisted on us without a single Republican vote and without a single person having read the bill.In other words, you DO NOT have any idea how what you want can pass without half the votes...as I asserted.  So again, either your party LIED about their intention to repeal it root and branch or they are lying NOW.  And AGAIN, they wanted full repeal...just don't have the votes, and so they haven't lied at any point, just were smart enough to realize they couldn't get everything they wanted, and so are working to get MUCH of what they wanted.

You can justify all you like to your heart's content their playing games with myriad excuses of why they cannot do as they promised while they work to better manage Socialism to your applause and approval - but I will not.

And yes, I dumped your party because they no longer stand for the principles they pay lip service to.  They are simply become the Democrats and support their agenda and compromise with their agenda.So its your suggestion that Democrats would have appointed Gorsuch to the Supreme Court? Or reduced immigration by half? Or taken us out of the Paris climate agreement? Its a grotesquely weak argument to claim moral equivalents when none exists. But I guess you need to do that to justify your "take my ball and go home" approach.  I do not support liberals, leftists and socialists, regardless of what letter they stick at the end of their name.Nor do I, or any other Trump supporter on this site that I've ever read.

Right.  Because Conservatism and Conservative principles and expecting campaign promises to be attempted and fulfilled is 'advocating a personal tyranny'. That's exactly what it is if you are doing it without having majority votes in both houses of congress on the legislation in question

Nice to know you have more in common with Hillary Clinton's comments today than one would normally expect.Nice try, but I have nothing in common with her...nor do any of my comments.

I'm not in Congress and to suggest I have some kind of power to impose my 'personal Conservative tyranny' upon the nation is just another subtle effort to depict Principled Conservatives as a worse enemy than those you pretend to oppose.You are right that you won't do it, you just want someone else to do it for you...which is worse, actually.
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You get them voted out, and all you get is more Democrats in their place...as they are mostly coming from moderate districts. Then, you lose the House and Senate and get a whole slew of Liberal judges from the Supreme Court on down...along with open borders, big tax increases, abolition of the 2nd amendment...in effect, single payer health care and a host of other left wing agenda items. And, as the nation collapses into decay and rubble...we can all sit on our high horses and proclaim..."don't blame us, it was the democrats".

Yep. Good plan.

Makes no difference at all really, based on the fruits of the last 5 years.

The GOP has done more to fund and promote Obama's agenda, justify Statism and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory while attacking, insulting and holding their Conservative base in contempt than the Democrats have theirs.

Your attempt to frighten us with the portents of what happens if the GOP should lose power has no sting.  The GOP is as complicit as the Democrats in making Socialism our permanent ideological form of government.

Your party simply demonstrates that they think they can manage that Socialism and Statism better than the Democrats.
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