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Trump Vindicated? Study Shows Up To 5.7 Million Illegals Voted In Presidential Election.

A couple weeks after the 2016 election, President-Elect Donald Trump tweeted this: "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."

The mainstream media scoffed and immediately set out to disprove his claim. And, of course, the MSM also galloped off to cover 2016 loser Jill Stein's effort to get a recount for Hillary Clinton, who had taken to her bed piled with cash to weep in solitude.

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I would like to see an historical study, of instances of illegal voting, by party. Things like voting more than once, etc.

 
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I would like to see an historical study, of instances of illegal voting, by party. Things like voting more than once, etc.

I don't believe Hitlery won the popular vote when you subtract all the dimocrap voter fraud-which includes dead people voting, dims voting multiple times, and illegals voting.
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I don't believe Hitlery won the popular vote when you subtract all the dimocrap voter fraud-which includes dead people voting, dims voting multiple times, and illegals voting.

I know enough about record keeping, paper and electronic, statistics, and politics to not expect the truth anytime soon.

The best chance for Republicans to press for that truth is however, now when they hold majorities.

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Wow.  Even I didn't expect the numbers to be that high.

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I don't believe Hitlery won the popular vote when you subtract all the dimocrap voter fraud-which includes dead people voting, dims voting multiple times, and illegals voting.

Possibly, but it really doesn't matter. California had about 18 million registered voters in the last election. For the sake of argument, say 25% of them are illegal voters. That's  still at least about 13.5 million.  Even if she received every single ballot cast from legal voters, it's still only equals 55 elect oral votes.
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Trump Vindicated? Study Shows Up To 5.7 Million Illegals Voted In Presidential Election.

A couple weeks after the 2016 election...

A couple of weeks after...



I'm sorry. I can't help myself. If a media source wants to exhibit an air of credibility, their journalists should at least know the tools of their craft. Otherwise, they look like a fly-by-night outfit.

P.S. I'm not doubting the accuracy of the story. It's just that sloppy and careless writing makes me want to locate another source to confirm the story's accuracy.



Who wants to wager that there'll be no mention of this on the alphabet networks?



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Possibly, but it really doesn't matter. California had about 18 million registered voters in the last election. For the sake of argument, say 25% of them are illegal voters. That's  still at least about 13.5 million.  Even if she received every single ballot cast from legal voters, it's still only equals 55 elect oral votes.


All of which go to Democrats every single election year.    Were the vote roles within California not filled with so many illegals,  a Republican might actually win those electoral votes. 


Yes,  it matters.   
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A couple of weeks after...



I'm sorry. I can't help myself. If a media source wants to exhibit an air of credibility, their journalists should at least know the tools of their craft. Otherwise, they look like a fly-by-night outfit.

P.S. I'm not doubting the accuracy of the story. It's just that sloppy and careless writing makes me want to locate another source to confirm the story's accuracy.

Who wants to wager that there'll be no mention of this on the alphabet networks?

I went back and looked at the original article and believe that to be an error caused by the formatting of the article and not the writer.

Then again, I may be very wrong about that! :laugh:



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All of which go to Democrats every single election year.    Were the vote roles within California not filled with so many illegals,  a Republican might actually win those electoral votes. 


Yes,  it matters.

Have to disagree on that. Clinton outperformed Trump by 3.5 million votes in CA.   Based on figures in the headline, that would mean more than 60% of the fraudulent votes took place in CA.  That would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal.  Every west coast state is a lost cause, as are the north eastern Atlantic states from MD to ME.  I believe PA was an anomaly this past cycle, due to low black voter turnout and the amount of third-party voters. The upper midwest states can be retained, if the economy flourishes as it can and should.
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Have to disagree on that. Clinton outperformed Trump by 3.5 million votes in CA.   Based on figures in the headline, that would mean more than 60% of the fraudulent votes took place in CA.  That would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal.  Every west coast state is a lost cause, as are the north eastern Atlantic states from MD to ME.  I believe PA was an anomaly this past cycle, due to low black voter turnout and the amount of third-party voters. The upper midwest states can be retained, if the economy flourishes as it can and should.

I have lived in Orange County CA since the last Presidential win by Bush I in 1992.

The demographics haven't changed that drastically. But the democrats have taken over more, and more districts.
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Have to disagree on that. Clinton outperformed Trump by 3.5 million votes in CA.   Based on figures in the headline, that would mean more than 60% of the fraudulent votes took place in CA.  That would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal.  Every west coast state is a lost cause, as are the north eastern Atlantic states from MD to ME.  I believe PA was an anomaly this past cycle, due to low black voter turnout and the amount of third-party voters. The upper midwest states can be retained, if the economy flourishes as it can and should.


I don't take that 5.7 million number as solidly accurate.   All it tells me is that there is a massive amount of illegal voting in the US,   and that's all I need to know. 


And so far as it "would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal",   it isn't concealed.  It's out in the open.   It's hidden in plain sight.   


Illegals is but one problem with voting in California.   Welfare recipients are another,  and the constant stream of leftist propaganda is another still. 

A lot needs to be done to repair what is wrong with California. 

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And so far as it "would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal",   it isn't concealed.  It's out in the open.   It's hidden in plain sight.

My point in mentioning that was a wide margin of defeat.   Even if you generously allow that 50% of those photos were fraudulent, you still get beat by 1.25 million votes. That is too great a number to flip in a couple of election cycles - specially when you account for the fact she was such a terrible candidate and the number of third-party voters.
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I have lived in Orange County CA since the last Presidential win by Bush I in 1992.

The demographics haven't changed that drastically. But the democrats have taken over more, and more districts.

I think you meant 1988, but I know what you mean. Bush 41 may have held on to CA in '92 had Perot not been running. The total between them would've put him about 200K ahead of Clinton overall.
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Vindicated? Not really. Evidence seems based on a single study which they apparently used to extrapolate data to the 2016 election based on this study.

Of course we need voter id controls and more.

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Have to disagree on that. Clinton outperformed Trump by 3.5 million votes in CA.   Based on figures in the headline, that would mean more than 60% of the fraudulent votes took place in CA.  That would require an institutional operation so massive, it would be impossible to conceal.  Every west coast state is a lost cause, as are the north eastern Atlantic states from MD to ME.  I believe PA was an anomaly this past cycle, due to low black voter turnout and the amount of third-party voters. The upper midwest states can be retained, if the economy flourishes as it can and should.

There are about 40 million people in California. Something like 27% of those are foreign born. Think about that for a minute. Who knows how many are illegal.

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There are about 40 million people in California. Something like 27% of those are foreign born. Think about that for a minute. Who knows how many are illegal.

I did think about it.  My point was he lost the state by a margin of 3.5 million votes.  The total population the state is relevant only to the number of electoral votes, not who gets them.  It's the number of voters that counts.  Even if you factor in the full 27% of the vote being illegal, the m.o.d. is still over 2.5 million.  Total elimination of illegal citizens and voters in CA isn't going to turn it red overnight.  It's been lost for a generation, even when it had a RINO governor.
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OH SNAP!  I think that just happened.  Not only did President Trump get the greatest Electoral College Victory since Reagan, but even with 1/6th of the US population being illegal, and illegals voting at a higher rate than legal voters, Trump won the popular vote too!!!

Eat it Liberals!

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I did think about it.  My point was he lost the state by a margin of 3.5 million votes.  The total population the state is relevant only to the number of electoral votes, not who gets them.  It's the number of voters that counts.  Even if you factor in the full 27% of the vote being illegal, the m.o.d. is still over 2.5 million.  Total elimination of illegal citizens and voters in CA isn't going to turn it red overnight.  It's been lost for a generation, even when it had a RINO governor.

Actually my point to think about is 27% are foreign born. That is destructive on many levels. 27% have no basis in our culture, no understanding of our history and the basis of our freedoms in our constitution. Most come from corrupt countries, many corrupted by socialism, and they bring those beliefs unchallenged with them voting for what they are trying to escape. The state isn't likely to recover.