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Susan Rice and the Obama administration's unmasking files are sealed for the next 5 years

by Caroline McKee
June 22, 2017


The National Security Council informed Judicial Watch in a letter that it's request for records submitted by the intelligence community of former National Security Adviser Susan Rice or her team have been moved in with other property that now belongs to the Barack Obama Presidential Library.

Judicial Watch submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on April 4, 2016.

Tom Fitton, presidnet of the Judicial Watch, said the group made the request because they believe that, "the Obama Administration misused the intelligence powers granted to the president despite his domestic political opponents."
 
Their request asked for records with information about Russian influence on the 2016 election, hacking of the Democratic National Committee, any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, or U.S. citizens associated with the Trump Campaign who were "identified pursuant to intelligence collection activities."

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http://circa.com/politics/susan-rice-and-obama-administration-files-on-unmasking-are-sealed-for-the-next-five-years
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This should be vigorously challenged in the courts!
 
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This should be vigorously challenged in the courts!
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Where are they getting 5 years from? According to what I've read about EO 13489, it can be up to 12 years.
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This doesn't pass the smell test.

The Obama library won't be completed until 2022.
Since when can Federal records be moved to a private library.

I think it is more likely that Judicial watch is getting the run around by liberal remnants in the NSC

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The library thing is a red herring (and a set-up for documents supposedly in their care which will be found to have been "lost" in 5 years time).

The meat is EO 13489 - the former president's documents are sealed for up to 12 years. GWB did an end run around it by telling the Archivist to delay releasing the docs from Reagan (and, purely by co-incidence, his dear old Dad as VP) long enough to write a replacement EO that expanded the hiding time. The Worm reverted it back to how it was previously in 2009, with the sole difference in his EO being that the VP's papers are explicitly covered.
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The library thing is a red herring (and a set-up for documents supposedly in their care which will be found to have been "lost" in 5 years time).

The meat is EO 13489 - the former president's documents are sealed for up to 12 years. GWB did an end run around it by telling the Archivist to delay releasing the docs from Reagan (and, purely by co-incidence, his dear old Dad as VP) long enough to write a replacement EO that expanded the hiding time. The Worm reverted it back to how it was previously in 2009, with the sole difference in his EO being that the VP's papers are explicitly covered.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/part-1270

https://fas.org/sgp/obama/presidential.html

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release
January 21, 2009

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489
- - - - - - -
PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

(a) "Archivist" refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee.
(b) "NARA" refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.
(c) "Presidential Records Act" refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.
(d) "NARA regulations" refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.
(e) "Presidential records" refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.
(f) "Former President" refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.
(g) A "substantial question of executive privilege" exists if NARA's disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.
 A "final court order" is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.
(h)

Emphasis added by me.

Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records. (a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
(b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.
Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.
(b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.
(c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.
(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.
Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President. (a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.
(b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.
Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 21, 2009.
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Do an 0bama play, find a friendly judge and get an order to open those records, and do it so fast the other side cannot get a court hearing to try to stop it.

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Do an 0bama play, find a friendly judge and get an order to open those records, and do it so fast the other side cannot get a court hearing to try to stop it.
Isn't that how he got elected to the Senate in the first place? "Sealed" divorce proceedings of the other candidate were released, and Alan Keyes didn't have enough time to step in as the new candidate and conduct a campaign?
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Isn't that how he got elected to the Senate in the first place? "Sealed" divorce proceedings of the other candidate were released, and Alan Keyes didn't have enough time to step in as the new candidate and conduct a campaign?

Yes. 0bama was also helped by the then current Illinoisy Republican party leader Judy Barr-Topinka who detested Peter Fitzgerald and gave him a never-ending grief until he decided not to run again for the senate seat he easily won 6 years earlier.