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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2017, 05:24:42 pm »
Even if we are fighting a civil war - and it is an arguable proposition that we are in the early stages of one - there is nothing to recommend Donald Trump as the commander of the conservative "side".

He has demonstrated no knowledge of conservative ideas or history and appears also to lack any sense of priority, restraint, or focus. He is temperamentally unsuited to the task.

And please, don't give me the "but he's the leader we have" nonsense.  Yes, he is our President, and I will support him wherever I can, but he is clearly not the man to defeat the Progressive menace.

Maybe not.  But he is, undoubtedly, the leader that has gotten the Progressive menace's panties in the biggest wad... thus far.   He has caused the leftists to expose themselves .... in all of their tantrum-throwing, leftist glory......

and it's a truly ugly sight to behold.   It's also a good thing ... as more people's eyes are opened to who and what they really are.  (See: Kathy Griffin exposes her true nature.... evil)

No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2017, 05:28:57 pm »
And many "conservatives" have shown no ability to strategize, unify and fight to win. 

In wartime, it is best to go with the fighter, not the talker.

Far too many "conservatives" value high minded talk, as the most important end of itself.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2017, 05:35:38 pm »
"Defeating the Left" is achieved by using a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat whom funded, endorsed and campaigned for self-avowed Communist Bill DeBlasio and declared at his inauguration that Hillary and Bill Clinton were "good people"????????

Can Satan cast out Satan?

"And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges". - Matthew 12:27

It's been explained to you and yours ad nauseum regarding Trump endorsing DeBlasio and his 'fondness' for Bill and Hillary.

....not that it means anything to you.
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2017, 05:52:36 pm »
It's been explained to you and yours ad nauseum regarding Trump endorsing DeBlasio and his 'fondness' for Bill and Hillary.

....not that it means anything to you.

No, it doesn't.

A man's fruits are self-evident and expecting decent leadership guided by principles they do not possess is a bit ridiculous.

Thusfar all the accolades are mostly over payback and making those who dis Trump a public example of humiliation.  And while it has been mostly the Left that has engaged in this, Trump will show no partiality to a Conservative who questions his actions.  That's not leadership.  It's retribution.

But that is what you people want.

So you have your reward.
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2017, 06:03:28 pm »
It's been explained to you and yours ad nauseum regarding Trump endorsing DeBlasio and his 'fondness' for Bill and Hillary.

....not that it means anything to you.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2017, 06:10:56 pm »
@DCPatriot
For some people Jesus wouldn't be good enough because he said 'love the sinner'.

That's the same stuff the pushers of Homosexual marriage and abortion keep yelling at us too.

Let's go and make them our rulers too while we are at it so 'love' may abound.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2017, 06:11:25 pm »
No, it doesn't.

A man's fruits are self-evident and expecting decent leadership guided by principles they do not possess is a bit ridiculous.

Thusfar all the accolades are mostly over payback and making those who dis Trump a public example of humiliation.  And while it has been mostly the Left that has engaged in this, Trump will show no partiality to a Conservative who questions his actions.  That's not leadership.  It's retribution.

But that is what you people want.

So you have your reward.

He's a global developer based in NYC.   Of course he'd want to to on the aforementioned 'good side'.

Sometimes you can get a permit without running the gauntlet.   Helps to have 'friends' in high places.
 
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2017, 06:13:07 pm »
One thing I really like about this site is the ignore feature. 

diggity!
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2017, 06:14:14 pm »
Far too many "conservatives" value high minded talk, as the most important end of itself.

This.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2017, 06:16:14 pm »
He's a global developer based in NYC.   Of course he'd want to to on the aforementioned 'good side'.

Sometimes you can get a permit without running the gauntlet.   Helps to have 'friends' in high places.
 

I'm sure the Clintons fully agree with that.

It's funny how cronyism, bribes and kickbacks are just fine and dandy when it's OUR guy that does it.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2017, 06:19:09 pm »
One thing I really like about this site is the ignore feature. 

diggity!

If I didn't have you on "ignore", I'd agree with that sentiment!   :silly:
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2017, 06:48:26 pm »
If I didn't have you on "ignore", I'd agree with that sentiment!   :silly:

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To bad, then you miss all the fun and pithy comments.

My blood pressure is lower too!   Only use it for about 5 posters but it transform the entire landscape into unicorns and cotton candy.
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2017, 06:53:08 pm »
@Night Hides Not

To bad, then you miss all the fun and pithy comments.

My blood pressure is lower too!   Only use it for about 5 posters but it transform the entire landscape into unicorns and cotton candy.

But then you can't see what they're saying behind your back.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2017, 07:19:05 pm »
Far too many "conservatives" value high minded talk, as the most important end of itself.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2017, 10:27:16 pm »
Far too many "conservatives" value high minded talk, as the most important end of itself.

As opposed to high-minded campaign promises that many "conservatives" now say they knew Trump never really meant to deliver, but the end itself was the most important???

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2017, 12:17:02 pm »
As opposed to high-minded campaign promises that many "conservatives" now say they knew Trump never really meant to deliver, but the end itself was the most important???

Lying is OK for progressives like them. People without standards can't be held to any standards.

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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2017, 01:23:39 pm »
As opposed to high-minded campaign promises that many "conservatives" now say they knew Trump never really meant to deliver, but the end itself was the most important???

IMHO, far too many people subscribe to the meme that Trump beating Hillary absolves him of any and all of his sins. It appears about a third of the voting public is in that boat.

If that's considered "high minded", then I'm guilty.
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2017, 01:28:41 pm »
As opposed to high-minded campaign promises that many "conservatives" now say they knew Trump never really meant to deliver, but the end itself was the most important???

As far as I can tell Trump is doing his damnedest to keep his promises! His only "sin" as president that I can find is failing to understand just how deep and wide that swamp in DC really is!  He's not the only one to have done that either! Not by a long shot!
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Re: A Response to My Conservative Critics About Trump
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2017, 01:30:15 pm »
IMHO, far too many people subscribe to the meme that Trump beating Hillary absolves him of any and all of his sins. It appears about a third of the voting public is in that boat.

If that's considered "high minded", then I'm guilty.

I'm not one of them! I have and will callum like I seeum!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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