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Theresa May’s Answer To Terror: Restrict The Internet
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Theresa May’s Answer To Terror: Restrict The Internet

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British Prime Minister Theresa May called for a bold measure after her nation suffered yet another deadly terror attack in the heart of London.

No, May did not call for reforming the United Kingdom’s immigration policies or shutting down known extremist mosques. She instead called for restricting the internet.
 

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Re: Theresa May’s Answer To Terror: Restrict The Internet
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2017, 09:48:06 am »
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2017, 10:14:58 am »
She''s hardly the first to suggest it.


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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 10:32:41 am »
That wasn't the only thing. 

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Re: Theresa May’s Answer To Terror: Restrict The Internet
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 07:01:27 pm »
I agree with Trump, ISIS propaganda shouldn't be on the net, beheadings and so forth. Am I in the wrong forum?

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 07:11:43 pm »
I agree with Trump, ISIS propaganda shouldn't be on the net, beheadings and so forth. Am I in the wrong forum?
There is a lot of crap on the net I don't approve of. However, burying what these people are, who they are is not likely to be the solution. The comms are up, listen in and track people who do (approve). Take that part of the cyberwar to them, and see who is watching, and check them out. If that is so widespread that it can't be monitored (and why would that be, considering everything is monitored?), potential jihadis can be flagged, networks can be sorted out and sigint used to interdict any terrorist operation.

We have already lost many liberties in the name of 'safety', and I won't get on a commercial airplane because of that crap.

Granted, the 'lone wolf' types are going to be a problem, but that should form a pattern, too, that can be analyzed for. With all the profiling people out there, there should be at least one profile model by now.

And stop importing people who are likely to become shaheed. Err in favor of safety.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2017, 07:14:48 pm by Smokin Joe »
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 08:01:22 pm »
I agree with Trump, ISIS propaganda shouldn't be on the net, beheadings and so forth. Am I in the wrong forum?

@TomSea

Whats your answer to:

1.  Gunowners shouldnt be allowed on the internet
2.  Pro-life people shouldn't be allowed on the internet
3.  People who don't believe in Global Warming shouldn't be allowed on the internet

Who gets to make these decisions?
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2017, 08:32:44 pm »
@TomSea

Whats your answer to:

1.  Gunowners shouldnt be allowed on the internet
2.  Pro-life people shouldn't be allowed on the internet
3.  People who don't believe in Global Warming shouldn't be allowed on the internet

Who gets to make these decisions?

You are right but it's too damn bad that the public at large has trouble recognizing a clear call to violence anymore.

Either that or our politicians have become so corrupt and opportunistic that they've blurred the lines between that and free speech.

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2017, 08:55:19 pm »
You are right but it's too damn bad that the public at large has trouble recognizing a clear call to violence anymore.

Either that or our politicians have become so corrupt and opportunistic that they've blurred the lines between that and free speech.

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I think It's the latter.  They'll sell their soul to move their agenda.
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Re: Theresa May’s Answer To Terror: Restrict The Internet
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2017, 02:27:01 am »
No, Theresa, take away the citizenship of your jihadis and expel them, stop importing more, and arm your police and citizenry.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2017, 02:43:50 am »
I agree with Trump, ISIS propaganda shouldn't be on the net, beheadings and so forth. Am I in the wrong forum?

Better exposed to the light of day where everyone can know what they are, who they are, and what they think versus being hidden in the underworld to only be seen when it is too late. I want every gory and disgusting detail of what and who they are exposed to the world.

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2017, 02:48:34 am »
I'd want to look at her full statement, it seems they are pouncing on her on this one issue.

Still, her record in fighting terrorists, via ID cards and such is weak.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/theresa-may-enough-terror-resign-10563787

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She also voted against ID cards, 90-day detentions and 14-day detentions, and absented herself from votes on the 2000 Terrorism Act, 2001 Anti-terrorism Crime and Security Act, and the 2008 Counter-Terrorism Act.

Theresa voted against Labour anti-terror laws and voted for the Tory ones that weren't as tough, and now says it's Jeremy Corbyn who's politicising tragedy.

Since 2010 the number of armed police officers has been cut by 1,300.Efforts to recruit again have hit a brick wall of coppers unwilling to kill or be killed. And there are so few specialised counter-terrorism firearms officers, spread so thinly, that an attack on London can be stopped in 8 minutes but an attack elsewhere may have to wait half an hour or more.

When the Police Federation warned Theresa in 2015 that her cuts would cause problems she told them: "This kind of scaremongering does nobody any good - it doesn't serve you, it doesn't serve the officers you represent, and it doesn't serve the public... this crying wolf has to stop."

Now the wolf is at the door. And when was the last time you saw a community bobby on foot in your town, talking to people, showing a friendly face, keeping an eye on the ne'er-do-wells?

She may well be voted out. And yet, despite the horrible terror attack that has everyone upset, we had a mass shooting in Orlando today.  It would be interesting to see that story have the same attention.  7 dead London, 5 dead in Orlando.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2017, 02:49:22 am »
@TomSea

Whats your answer to:

1.  Gunowners shouldnt be allowed on the internet
2.  Pro-life people shouldn't be allowed on the internet
3.  People who don't believe in Global Warming shouldn't be allowed on the internet

Who gets to make these decisions?

@driftdriver

Those are good points, will have to reconsider. Still, there is a lot of terrorist recruitment on the internet. Abu Nida, Hassanl, whatever the name is of the Fort Hood shooters communicated via email with an Al Qaeda kingpin cleric Al-Awlaki.  So, I do believe the internet does present dangers per spreading Islamic radicalism.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2017, 03:10:31 am by TomSea »