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Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?
« on: May 29, 2017, 07:43:15 pm »


Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?

By Alice B. Lloyd
May 24, 2017


Online conspiracy theories hit the mainstream media last week and metastasized.

Ten months after his death, reports continue to circulate concerning the murder of Seth Rich, a 27-year-old data analyst for the Democratic National Committee. Seth Conrad Rich died hours after what police investigators (who are still working on the case) have long said was likely an attempted robbery. Online conspiracy theorists and cable news commentators, on the other hand, claim that Rich was a WikiLeaks informant and insinuate that he was killed for political reasons.

These theories began with insinuations from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who offered a $20,000 reward for information about Rich's murder last August and suggested that Rich may have been a martyr to WikiLeaks' mission and the source of leaked DNC emails. But the theories were fueled by other parties, too. Republican lobbyist Jack Burkman—who's worked with the Rich family, canvassing their Northwest D.C. neighborhood for leads, and is offering a $105,000 reward—has said that he believes the Russian government may be to blame.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/fact-check-whats-the-real-story-on-seth-rich/article/2008190

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Re: Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 08:17:19 pm »
This fact check was devoid of fact concerning Seth Rich or his murder. The rest is old news.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 08:18:48 pm »
This fact check was devoid of fact concerning Seth Rich or his murder. The rest is old news.

Oh, sorry, I should have deferred to Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones.

*shaking head*

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 08:44:35 pm »
Oh, sorry, I should have deferred to Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones.

*shaking head*

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I thought the article you linked was a good one. It is the first that I have read that attempts to deconstruct how this conspiracy theory got started.

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 09:25:03 pm »
Good post..
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Re: Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 10:10:29 pm »
Oh, sorry, I should have deferred to Gateway Pundit and Alex Jones.

*shaking head*

Or the GOP elite and Neo-Cons,  oops.

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 10:15:50 pm »
So called conservative @CatherineofAragon posting DNC talking points. NeverTrumpers will never change.

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2017, 10:19:02 pm »
Do we even have Seth's autopsy, we basically lack info on this case so Weekly Standard ride out on their high horse and point out Rod Wheeler's supposed errors and they may well be errors because it seems this case is so hushed up.


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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2017, 11:21:09 pm »
Just remember, @CatherineofAragon , that it's not a fact unless it validates the Clinton mafia conspiracy.  Otherwise, it's just a "DNC talking point" no matter how truthful it may be.

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2017, 11:29:46 pm »
Just remember, @CatherineofAragon , that it's not a fact unless it validates the Clinton mafia conspiracy.  Otherwise, it's just a "DNC talking point" no matter how truthful it may be.

@Oceander

It reminds me of what I saw on the TBR Twitter timeline the day we were down.  Some nut posted a fake photo of Ariana Grande, and when she was advised of that fact, screeched, "Why are you defending Ariana Grande?"

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Re: Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2017, 11:30:44 pm »
Sounds to me like this is largely based on what this Rod Wheeler said at one point but has since retracted. Wheeler was hired by an outsider with an axe of his own to grind.

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2017, 11:33:18 pm »
@Oceander

It reminds me of what I saw on the TBR Twitter timeline the day we were down.  Some nut posted a fake photo of Ariana Grande, and when she was advised of that fact, screeched, "Why are you defending Ariana Grande?"

How dare someone do the right thing without first making sure it supported our own particular ideological goals.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2017, 11:33:37 pm »
Sounds to me like this is largely based on what this Rod Wheeler said at one point but has since retracted. Wheeler was hired by an outsider with an axe of his own to grind.

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Yes, agreed.  Also, from one of the links I posted:


"In terms of credibility, it's important to note that Rod Wheeler is the same man who appeared on The Bill O'Reilly Show in 2007, and said there was a vast network of "pink pistol" toting lesbian gangs who were indoctrinating young children into homosexuality.

So there's that."

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2017, 11:36:15 pm »
With the promotion of the Seth Rich conspiracy (or any conspiracy) we are heading towards the path of the TOS..
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Re: Fact Check: What's the Real Story on Seth Rich?
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2017, 11:48:22 pm »
@Cripplecreek

Yes, agreed.  Also, from one of the links I posted:


"In terms of credibility, it's important to note that Rod Wheeler is the same man who appeared on The Bill O'Reilly Show in 2007, and said there was a vast network of "pink pistol" toting lesbian gangs who were indoctrinating young children into homosexuality.

So there's that."

A lot of these people are hard left agitators who only seek global socialism and the destruction of freedom. If the right isn't smart enough to avoid walking into their traps again and again, we don't deserve to survive.

Cernovich, Baked Alaska, Milo, Kit DotCom, Julian Assange and others have all figured out that there is a whole other source of useful idiots on the right who are ripe to exploit. All they have to do is spout a few of the right words like "Globalism" and blame a few of the right people like Clinton or Soros and the useful idiots will follow blindly without doing an ounce of research.


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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2017, 12:14:00 am »
A lot of these people are hard left agitators who only seek global socialism and the destruction of freedom. If the right isn't smart enough to avoid walking into their traps again and again, we don't deserve to survive.

Cernovich, Baked Alaska, Milo, Kit DotCom, Julian Assange and others have all figured out that there is a whole other source of useful idiots on the right who are ripe to exploit. All they have to do is spout a few of the right words like "Globalism" and blame a few of the right people like Clinton or Soros and the useful idiots will follow blindly without doing an ounce of research.

True, and it's very concerning that it seems to be happening over and over again.

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2017, 12:17:26 am »
A lot of these people are hard left agitators who only seek global socialism and the destruction of freedom. If the right isn't smart enough to avoid walking into their traps again and again, we don't deserve to survive.




 :amen:





Cernovich, Baked Alaska, Milo, Kit DotCom, Julian Assange and others have all figured out that there is a whole other source of useful idiots on the right who are ripe to exploit. All they have to do is spout a few of the right words like "Globalism" and blame a few of the right people like Clinton or Soros and the useful idiots will follow blindly without doing an ounce of research.


The reality is this, they don't care about this cause.. All they care is about making a buck. I don't think they believe sh*t they post. As for Assange, he should be shot.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2017, 12:22:05 am »
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The reality is this, they don't care about this cause.. All they care is about making a buck. I don't think they believe sh*t they post. As for Assange, he should be shot.

Yeah, he should be, and people like Hannity and Palin agreed until he said something bad about Hillary Clinton.  That's all it took to make them undergo complete 180s.

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2017, 12:24:44 am »
@kevindavis

Yeah, he should be, and people like Hannity and Palin agreed until he said something bad about Hillary Clinton.  That's all it took to make them undergo complete 180s.


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Yep.. I don't care who Assange says something bad about. He should be shot regardless..
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@CatherineofAragon


Yep.. I don't care who Assange says something bad about. He should be shot regardless..

For some reason despite his anti globalism Assange never speaks ill of Russia and Russia is a top globalist power.

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For some reason despite his anti globalism Assange never speaks ill of Russia and Russia is a top globalist power.


You can't criticize Russia.. Russia is the defender of the faith...
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2017, 12:51:41 am »

You can't criticize Russia.. Russia is the defender of the faith...

Putin will never be anything but a KGB thug.  Seeing conservatives make their arguments using Pravda as a source is surreal.

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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2017, 01:03:54 am »
Putin will never be anything but a KGB thug.  Seeing conservatives make their arguments using Pravda as a source is surreal.


It is and if Reagan was seeing this he would be ashamed...
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2017, 01:24:46 am »

It is and if Reagan was seeing this he would be ashamed...

Gorbachev was a lot "nicer" than Putin but Reagan had zero qualms about being tough with him and merciless with the ideology that drove him.

I have a Russian friend who says that Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union with one act. Where Soviet leaders looked over the heads of crowds in red square and told them what government would do, Reagan looked them in the eye and told them that God had set a destiny for mankind to be free to determine our own path. Reagan put himself out there as one of them rather than above them and it broke the government hold.