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McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports

By Mary Kay Linge

May 27, 2017 | 10:35pm | Updated

National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster shrugged off reports that presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner proposed setting up secret lines of communication with Russia.

“We have back-channel communications with a number of countries,” McMaster said Saturday. “What that allows you to do is communicate in a discreet manner, so I’m not concerned.”

Kushner’s plan — which never took effect — was meant to let the Trump transition team communicate privately with the Russian government on Syria and other issues, The New York Times reported Saturday.

He reportedly broached the plan with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December.

It would have connected Michael Flynn, Trump’s chief national security adviser at the time, with Russian military leaders — and would have shielded those conversations from intelligence officials, according to The Washington Post.

Flynn is under federal investigation over his foreign business ties.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/27/mcmaster-isnt-fazed-by-jared-kushner-back-channel-reports/
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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 02:28:35 pm »
All I can say is this:  if the Obama administration had pulled the same tricks in 2008, those defending Trump now would have been screaming for Obamas head then.  The hypocrisy alone stinks to high heaven. 

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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2017, 05:13:26 pm »
Maybe he isn't troubled by back-channel reports, but I certainly would be concerned with nepotism laws and Kushner's connections with Soros.  Both Jared and Ivanka need to go.
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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 07:52:24 pm »
All I can say is this:  if the Obama administration had pulled the same tricks in 2008, those defending Trump now would have been screaming for Obamas head then.  The hypocrisy alone stinks to high heaven.

What are you talking about. Every administration in our history has had back channel communications with other nations, including the Russians. The hypocrisy is to act like its all of a sudden some horrendous thing to do...you've really unmasked yourself here, Oceander, over something that is....quite honestly...nothing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2017, 07:56:12 pm »
What are you talking about. Every administration in our history has had back channel communications with other nations, including the Russians. The hypocrisy is to act like its all of a sudden some horrendous thing to do...you've really unmasked yourself here, Oceander, over something that is....quite honestly...nothing.

Prior to the inauguration?  Yeah, right.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2017, 08:25:52 pm »
Prior to the inauguration?  Yeah, right.

At this point, I am really questioning Trump's logic in choosing Jared as one of his advisors.  It doesn't make sense.  The Kushner brothers are tied to Soros.  I understand that he's married to Ivanka, but ... I'm just not seeing the logic at all on this one. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2017, 08:29:14 pm »
At this point, I am really questioning Trump's logic in choosing Jared as one of his advisors.  It doesn't make sense.  The Kushner brothers are tied to Soros.  I understand that he's married to Ivanka, but ... I'm just not seeing the logic at all on this one.

Anybody that is tied to Soros is questionable, in my opinion.  And it wouldn't be the first and only time a "son in law" screwed the family name.... intentionally.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2017, 08:31:41 pm »
All I can say is this:  if the Obama administration had pulled the same tricks in 2008, those defending Trump now would have been screaming for Obamas head then.  The hypocrisy alone stinks to high heaven.

What makes you believe that Obama (or other Presidents) did not have back channel communications?



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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2017, 08:36:25 pm »
Prior to the inauguration?  Yeah, right.

Well there was that Kennedy thing.......

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2017, 08:41:08 pm »
What makes you believe that Obama (or other Presidents) did not have back channel communications?





Prior to inauguration?

That's a pretty extraordinary claim.  You'd better have some evidence for it.  Your own personal political delusions do not count as facts.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2017, 09:00:41 pm »
Prior to inauguration?

That's a pretty extraordinary claim.  You'd better have some evidence for it.  Your own personal political delusions do not count as facts.

My political delusions are only exceeded by your political naïveté

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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2017, 09:04:46 pm »
Prior to inauguration?

That's a pretty extraordinary claim.  You'd better have some evidence for it.  Your own personal political delusions do not count as facts.
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During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies.

The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah’s rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.

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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2017, 09:22:08 pm »
Here's the part that gets me.  The NSA under orders from the Obama Administration conducts warrantless surveillance on Jared Kushner, and the subject of that surveillance is subsequently leaked to the press, and no one seems to give a damn.

Again, the NSA is conducting DOMESTIC surveillance without a warrant, and the information gathered is being exploited for political purposes by those who are no longer in power, but took personal possession of that information (i.e. stole) while leaving office.

Chuck Colson was sent to prison for several years for handing the President of the United States one unopened FBI file of a private US citizen.  What happened to all those people on the other side who claim to stand for personal liberty, yet now are silent after learning that the NSA was used as some KGB political tool?

Forget about Trump for just a minute.  Does anyone here remember Watergate?  That is nothing compared to what went on with the Obama Administration.
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Re: McMaster isn’t fazed by Jared Kushner ‘back-channel’ reports
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2017, 09:28:38 pm »
Here's the part that gets me.  The NSA under orders from the Obama Administration conducts warrantless surveillance on Jared Kushner, and the subject of that surveillance is subsequently leaked to the press, and no one seems to give a damn.

Again, the NSA is conducting DOMESTIC surveillance without a warrant, and the information gathered is being exploited for political purposes by those who are no longer in power, but took personal possession of that information (i.e. stole) while leaving office.

Chuck Colson was sent to prison for several years for handing the President of the United States one unopened FBI file of a private US citizen.  What happened to all those people on the other side who claim to stand for personal liberty, yet now are silent after learning that the NSA was used as some KGB political tool?

Forget about Trump for just a minute.  Does anyone here remember Watergate?  That is nothing compared to what went on with the Obama Administration.

Funny/odd how.... you don't and won't find any outrage here about any such warrantless surveillance of private citizens.  Isn't it.  Almost like.... some folks here are perfectly fine and dandy with it.  Even while.... getting their dander up about other issues.  Certain other issues.

Hmmm......
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2017, 12:07:07 pm »
All I can say is this:  if the Obama administration had pulled the same tricks in 2008, those defending Trump now would have been screaming for Obamas head then.  The hypocrisy alone stinks to high heaven.

http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2014-12-31/inside-obamas-secret-outreach-to-russia

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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2017, 12:48:14 pm »
My political delusions are only exceeded by your political naïveté

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track_II_diplomacy

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2017, 06:34:38 pm »
Prior to the inauguration?  Yeah, right.

Well, I am a Cruz man... but I am happy with Trump so far...for the most part.

And yes..before inauguration...even before winning election..behold..obama. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/05/27/flashback-reports-obama-campaign-opened-back-channel-iran/
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