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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2017, 05:20:06 pm »
I suppose leadership is out of the question.

With Mitch McConnell in it for sure!
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2017, 05:28:23 pm »
With Mitch McConnell in it for sure!

I disagree.  McConnell has been quite effective in getting Obama's budgets passed for the last six years.  Taking the lead in temporarily getting rid of the debt ceiling and granting the President blank-check authority was a political masterpiece that even Nancy Pelosi is envious of.  Just think of how much wealth has been stolen from the average US citizen through the FED policy of the 'printing-of-the-money' that could not have been possible without McConnell's leadership ability.  He may be the best Majority Leader the Democrats have ever had.  And he continues on with his fight to save ObamaCare.

And to think we almost had this guy primaried two years ago if not for some New York liberal opening up his checkbook to him at the last minute.
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2017, 05:30:42 pm »
I disagree.  McConnell has been quite effective in getting Obama's budgets passed for the last six years.  Taking the lead in temporarily getting rid of the debt ceiling and granting the President blank-check authority was a political masterpiece that even Nancy Pelosi is envious of.  Just think of how much wealth has been stolen from the average US citizen through the FED policy of the 'printing-of-the-money' that could not have been possible without McConnell's leadership ability.  He may be the best Majority Leader the Democrats have ever had.  And he continues on with his fight to save ObamaCare.

And to think we almost had this guy primaried two years ago if not for some New York liberal opening up his checkbook to him at the last minute.

Well sir! I must admit you make a valid point!
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 05:37:14 pm »
Then step aside and let someone who knows how do it.
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2017, 06:54:02 pm »
Nobody asked me, but I'd rather see them vote, fail, and then place the blame publicly and squarely on the dems.  That way when it becomes an obvious crisis, they can say "see the Feds should never have been involved in health insurance in the first place, and here is a plan that will not only get us out of most aspects of health insurance, but also make sure those who are unable to provide for themselves have a way to do so".
Never happen. They'll blame Conservatives that stand in the way, even though they are vastly outnumbered by 'moderates'.
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2017, 06:55:09 pm »
I suppose leadership is out of the question.
Not necessarily. If it is in the wrong direction, they seem to do just fine.
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2017, 06:58:13 pm »
Funny. LBJ never seemed to have this problem when he was Majority Leader.

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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2017, 07:01:57 pm »
I suppose leadership is out of the question.

The leadership is there. Its the will thats lacking. He doesn't want to repeal it.

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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2017, 07:07:25 pm »
How about we accurately define the problem: A small number of centrist Senate Republicans, Collins and a couple more.

So all that needs discussion, is why cannot McConnell convince them to go along?

No need to criticize the entire GOP Senate delegation. McConnell is simply being honest.

Call the offices of the wobbly GO Senators. Write them letters and emails. DO SOMETHING BESIDES TALK YOURSELVES.

(and no, debating the meaning of "centrist" won't do it, either)
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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2017, 07:21:05 pm »
Funny. LBJ never seemed to have this problem when he was Majority Leader.


Bingo!

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Re: McConnell: 'I don't know' how we get to 50 votes on health care bill
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2017, 08:01:17 pm »

Bingo!

There's the way we'd Like our 'leaders/legislators' to be, and then there's the way they and their game is actually played.

Standing on ceremony, gentlemanly conduct, and Emily Post is not going to get us anything but more bruises.

McConnell had absolutely no problem going in hard and dirty to strong-arm his party and threaten them to deliver funding for Obama's agenda in all their continuing budget resolutions.

McConnell has absolutely no problem getting vicious in tearing apart anyone who opposes him in abject brutal fashion that would make any Democrat blush (ask Matt Bevin).

No.  McConnell works behind the scenes to make sure the Oligarchy and Beast gets what it  wants in terms of votes, and then he votes opposite simply to say to us that he opposed big government spending and Obamas agenda.

No he doesn't.  He only fights hard to push the big government oligarchy, he plays 'gentlemen' when it comes time to roll it back.  But he's no gentleman.  We've seen what he really is, and he more identifies with the Democrats and the machine than he does with those of us out here he pretends to represent.
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