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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #350 on: May 18, 2017, 03:06:05 am »
And to think some of them were the dearest of friends.     **nononono*

Yep !!  I lost one who really loved me ... she's on this forum ... now she hates me.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #351 on: May 18, 2017, 03:07:46 am »
Go, Rangers.

But, yes, one thing the Trump haters have in common is that they reek of self-righteousness to the point that I had to bring my gardenia in beside my computer.

THEY are the good ones ... the ones too smart and too principled to fall for a person with as many faults as Trump has. 

But, don't worry, they will be here keeping the faith (as they call it)  until they succeed in poisoning the well and we have good ole liberals back in control.

The best and most correct post I've read here in 6 months. Truly nailed it...especially their belief that only they are "principled". Its an arrogance that results in blindness, and its a big part of why those of us who believe in libertarian and conservative ideals are losing this nation to the Left.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #352 on: May 18, 2017, 03:08:04 am »
You are just too good to be true.  And thanks for not calling your fellow posters 'wannabe Jihadists or Facists' while claiming that Trump supporters are mean.

That is seriously what DC said today.  He said we should be like jihadists.

Now THAT is mean.


I generally don't believe in banning posters here, but that level of threat of violence came mighty close to deserving permanent citizenship elsewhere for a guy claiming to be a "patriot."

And it wasn't INVAR who said it, my friend.....

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #353 on: May 18, 2017, 03:09:25 am »
Yep !!  I lost one who really loved me ... she's on this forum ... now she hates me.

What are you talking about. I don't hate you. I just find you mildly offensive.

Now stop talking behind my back. I'm always watching.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #354 on: May 18, 2017, 03:09:29 am »
   With all due respect @DCPatriot  I do get your analogy about Ty Cobb (I think) and how it relates to Principles and whether you are a winner or not based on the financial reward you return to your organization.

   I have a very short Sports season-1 Month (if I'm lucky) NBA Playoffs, left MLB in the 94 Strike and the NFL when Bud Adams took my beloved Oilers to Tennessee.

Two meteors flying toward each other.  Go CAVS!!
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #355 on: May 18, 2017, 03:12:07 am »
This is hilarious! The guy you voted for as Prez - was a lifelong NYC LIBERAL DEMOCRAT.  YOU already put good ole liberals back in control!  Congrats!

We have nothing to do with it.  You guys are on your own.

I am amused when people who support a NY Democrat accuse the rest of us of wanting to put liberals in control

Kinda surreal, ain't it?? :shrug:
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I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #356 on: May 18, 2017, 03:13:46 am »
That is seriously what DC said today.  He said we should be like jihadists.

Now THAT is mean.


I generally don't believe in banning posters here, but that level of threat of violence came mighty close to deserving permanent citizenship elsewhere for a guy claiming to be a "patriot."

And it wasn't INVAR who said it, my friend.....

Really. Are we all liberals now, that we can't understand and see hyperbole when its in use. The rational presumption is that "be like jihadists" means to be committed to a cause and single minded....not cutting off heads and blowing things up. Everyone here knows this was the meaning, why pretend it meant something horrific when it clearly did not? Perhaps it was over the top, but that's about the worst thing you could say about it. If we're going to ban people for overly harsh hyperbole, than we've gone down the liberal rat hole with little hope of return.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #357 on: May 18, 2017, 03:15:54 am »
The best and most correct post I've read here in 6 months. Truly nailed it...especially their belief that only they are "principled". Its an arrogance that results in blindness, and its a big part of why those of us who believe in libertarian and conservative ideals are losing this nation to the Left.

Thank you, as Elvis would say,  thank you very much.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #358 on: May 18, 2017, 03:16:04 am »
   I empathize with the disparity in Trumpville right now, after all I learned the hard way being a Cruz Supporter.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #359 on: May 18, 2017, 03:17:09 am »
So the only answer you have is a slap in the face? About what I'd expect for jihadi guy.
It appears you don't have an answer. Thanks for playing.

Okay...I'll play this one time.   But please try to keep up.

I don't give a fiddler's ###k about your highbrow principles....noble as they may be.



On one side, a 'flawed' big C  Conservative, who has governed...in terms of signed EOs, bills put forth and oh yeah....Justice Neil Gorsuch on the SCOTUS....all in about 4 months, Conservatively.

The DEADLY mortal enemy....the ONLY OTHER CHOICE, is Hillary Clinton, who would destroy/repeal the 2nd Amendment, cement Single Payer into our lives...and continue to exterminate the White majority...all the while continuing to weaken our defenses and our Middle Class.

Now run along now, and get with the program.      :whistle:
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #360 on: May 18, 2017, 03:17:35 am »
What are you talking about. I don't hate you. I just find you mildly offensive.

Now stop talking behind my back. I'm always watching.

In spite of that picture I know you are a dude and I don't think you find me mildly offensive.

Very offensive, maybe.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #361 on: May 18, 2017, 03:18:42 am »
I am amused when people who support a NY Democrat accuse the rest of us of wanting to put liberals in control

Kinda surreal, ain't it?? :shrug:

Except he's not a NY Dem, he's a Republican president of the United States. Ronald Reagan was a California Dem, and he too became a Republican president. As your premise is entirely wrong, its not surprising you're amused by assertions drawn from a correct premise.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #362 on: May 18, 2017, 03:19:11 am »
Really. Are we all liberals now, that we can't understand and see hyperbole when its in use. The rational presumption is that "be like jihadists" means to be committed to a cause and single minded....not cutting off heads and blowing things up. Everyone here knows this was the meaning, why pretend it meant something horrific when it clearly did not? Perhaps it was over the top, but that's about the worst thing you could say about it. If we're going to ban people for overly harsh hyperbole, than we've gone down the liberal rat hole with little hope of return.
Look all this babble about hyperbole is very nice. I feel like I'm back in junior high English class. But we all know the single minded purpose of jihadists is to get you to convert or kill you. We know the methods they are more than willing to employ. So don't sugar coat it. I asked how you "do the right thing" when it is wrong, and my answer was a video of a guy getting slapped in the face. Same poster, more violence, no logic. Sounds a mite jihadi to me.

Sorry, but we aren't the ones who need to get a fricking grip.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #363 on: May 18, 2017, 03:23:47 am »

Now run along now, and get with the program.      :whistle:

And if we refuse?

Do we get the Jihadi treatment you advocated earlier today?
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #364 on: May 18, 2017, 03:24:03 am »
Except he's not a NY Dem, he's a Republican president of the United States. Ronald Reagan was a California Dem, and he too became a Republican president. As your premise is entirely wrong, its not surprising you're amused by assertions drawn from a correct premise.

@Mesaclone Do you really want to go there

   Reagan "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me"
   Trump  "Bill convinced me I could BS my way through the REP Primary"
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #365 on: May 18, 2017, 03:28:08 am »
   With all due respect @DCPatriot  I do get your analogy about Ty Cobb (I think) and how it relates to Principles and whether you are a winner or not based on the financial reward you return to your organization.

   I have a very short Sports season-1 Month (if I'm lucky) NBA Playoffs, left MLB in the 94 Strike and the NFL when Bud Adams took my beloved Oilers to Tennessee.

That's not it at all.

They put with all of Ty Cobb's bullshit and bad publicity because the GOAL was to win a Pennant and maybe a World Series.

Nobody goes up in that batter's box with you.   And it's the most difficult task in all of professional sports.

You could use the analogy in foxhole terms, too.  I'll take a Tuco and Mortimer all day long over the Padre treating the wounded.

And again, we're taking about MY country.   My children's and grandchildren's country.   

Sheesh!   
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #366 on: May 18, 2017, 03:33:54 am »
@Mesaclone Do you really want to go there

   Reagan "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me"
   Trump  "Bill convinced me I could BS my way through the REP Primary"

I'm glad to go there...because I've not asserted that the two men are identical. The analogy simply clarifies that having been a Dem does not forever preclude awakening to better policy ideas. The president's policies have been conservative, consistently, and his legislative initiatives have all sought to turn back the Obama tide of radical socialism. So the man is what he does...or at least...what he is explicitly efforting to do. Claiming he's an NY Lib is as vacuous as declaring Reagan a California Lib.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #367 on: May 18, 2017, 03:38:09 am »
I'm glad to go there...because I've not asserted that the two men are identical. The analogy simply clarifies that having been a Dem does not forever preclude awakening to better policy ideas. The president's policies have been conservative, consistently, and his legislative initiatives have all sought to turn back the Obama tide of radical socialism. So the man is what he does...or at least...what he is explicitly efforting to do. Claiming he's an NY Lib is as vacuous as declaring Reagan a California Lib.
Except for that global warming thingy http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,262569.msg1319234.html#msg1319234
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #368 on: May 18, 2017, 03:38:35 am »
Yep !!  I lost one who really loved me ... she's on this forum ... now she hates me.

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Oh you poor, poor baby.  8888crybaby

Sheesh.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #369 on: May 18, 2017, 03:39:19 am »
Why would any rational human (including Republican) do this @Hoodat ?   The "conservatism" represented by the majority of voices here is, for a myriad of reasons, simply unelectable.   :shrug:

@Right_in_Virginia

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #370 on: May 18, 2017, 03:52:17 am »
Oh you poor, poor baby.  8888crybaby

Sheesh.

I don't want or need any pity from you. I only posted that to illustrate how One Way some people are.
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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #371 on: May 18, 2017, 03:54:04 am »
I'm glad to go there...because I've not asserted that the two men are identical. The analogy simply clarifies that having been a Dem does not forever preclude awakening to better policy ideas. The president's policies have been conservative, consistently, and his legislative initiatives have all sought to turn back the Obama tide of radical socialism. So the man is what he does...or at least...what he is explicitly efforting to do. Claiming he's an NY Lib is as vacuous as declaring Reagan a California Lib.

His policies have not been consistently conservative. The federal government has no constitutional authority to be mandating our health insurance from above. This is no small thing. This is the federal government further inserting itself into our lives and creating another very expensive entitlement program. This is the antithesis of conservative action. And this is just one example out of many.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #372 on: May 18, 2017, 03:55:24 am »
@Right_in_Virginia

At least you are up front about opposing Conservatives.  Reminds me of Bill Bolling.

Who said I opposed conservatives @Hoodat ... I want names!!

But the truth is until conservatives learn that politics and governing require more than a knowledge of preaching and a propensity for judging, conservatives will be stuck a minority within a minority.  People just don't like either.

Rather than taking this personally ... think about it.  It's really good advice.

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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #373 on: May 18, 2017, 04:00:36 am »
In spite of that picture I know you are a dude and I don't think you find me mildly offensive.

Very offensive, maybe.

Well if you were not talking about me tell me who it was so I can go beat them up.


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Re: When Will Republicans Dump Trump?
« Reply #374 on: May 18, 2017, 04:06:49 am »
I don't want or need any pity from you. I only posted that to illustrate how One Way some people are.
Sorry you wasted your time with that redundancy. Have a nice day. :laugh:
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