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NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« on: May 13, 2017, 10:48:17 pm »
Spaceflight Now by William Harwood 5/12/2017

NASA managers have ruled out putting a crew on board an Orion capsule atop the agency’s huge Space Launch System rocket for the gargantuan booster’s maiden flight in 2019, citing technical risks and higher costs, up to as much as $900 million, agency officials said Friday.

Earlier this year, the Trump administration asked NASA to look into the possibility of either adding a crew to Exploration Mission 1, EM-1 for short, or moving up the launch of EM-2, the flight NASA already earmarked for the SLS booster’s first piloted mission. That flight is targeted for launch in the 2021 timeframe.

The NASA study concluded that while it would be possible to upgrade the Orion spacecraft to accommodate a crew for the EM-1 flight — equipping it with life support systems, crew displays, a validated launch abort system and other critical elements — it would have required an additional $600 million to $900 million in funding.

And there would be additional technical risk and likely delays to accelerate software development and to retrofit the EM-1 Orion capsule to support a two-person crew.

As a result, acting NASA Administrator Robert Lightfoot said agency managers and White House officials agreed it made more sense to stick with the original plan, launching an uncrewed Orion capsule atop the first SLS booster in 2019, followed by a piloted mission using an upgraded version of the rocket two years later.

“At the end of the day, we found it technically feasible to fly a crew on EM-1 as long as we had a commitment of additional resources and schedule, and recognizing the technical risks we identified still were going to need a mitigation plan,” Lightfoot told reporters Friday.

“It really reaffirmed the baseline plan we had in place was the best way for us to go,” Lightfoot said. “Leave EM-1 uncrewed.”

More: https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/05/12/nasa-rules-out-crew-on-first-sls-flight/

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 03:02:31 am »
Good.
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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 03:46:05 am »
Good.

Yeah. This is one place where I want actual experts making the final decisions.

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 06:47:43 am »
But the standby crew is up for it!

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 07:02:06 am »
It would mean a huge delay in the mission.

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 12:22:54 pm »
Its a shame. What's another 900 million? They've already spent some $26 Billion.

They need to pick up the pace.

It would have been an exciting flight.

The Ins and Outs of NASA’s First Launch of SLS and Orion

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/the-ins-and-outs-of-nasa-s-first-launch-of-sls-and-orion

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2017, 01:46:21 pm »
Its a shame. What's another 900 million? They've already spent some $26 Billion.

They need to pick up the pace.

It would have been an exciting flight.

The Ins and Outs of NASA’s First Launch of SLS and Orion

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/the-ins-and-outs-of-nasa-s-first-launch-of-sls-and-orion

The last thing any astronaut or mission control people want is an "exciting flight".

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2017, 03:18:58 pm »
Its a shame. What's another 900 million? They've already spent some $26 Billion.

They need to pick up the pace.

It's not just money. It would have meant a huge delay.

But a billion MORE dollars on a single project would be a waste and would compromise other projects.

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2017, 03:20:35 pm »
It's not just money. It would have meant a huge delay.

But a billion MORE dollars on a single project would be a waste and would compromise other projects.

Not to mention what the loss of a crew would do.

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2017, 03:56:58 pm »
Not to mention what the loss of a crew would do.

NASA would be disgraced and everything put on hold for years probably

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Re: NASA rules out crew on first SLS flight
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2017, 04:01:42 pm »
NASA would be disgraced and everything put on hold for years probably

Its funny but space exploration is one of the few areas where Trump's enormous ego and desperate need for a legacy are probably a plus as long as the experts get final say about what gets done.

It remains to be seen how Trump will react to being told "No" this time.