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Trump: ‘You Just Don’t See the United Nations, Like, Solving Conflicts’

(CNSNews.com) – President Trump on Monday described the United Nations as an “underperformer,” telling a gathering of Security Council ambassadors that the world body “doesn’t like taking on certain problems.”

“It hasn’t lived up to the potential,” he said. “I see a day when there’s a conflict where the United Nations, you get together, and you solve the conflict. You just don’t see the United Nations, like, solving conflicts.  I think that’s going to start happening now.”
 

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Seems like a pretty fair appraisal to me. 

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That's a feature, not a bug.  The entire purpose of the veto power in the SC is to give important countries the ability to prevent anything with which they don't agree.  And since virtually every conflict puts the major powers on opposite sides in one way or the other, nothing can happen.

The only time the U.N. can ever act decisively on a key issue is when all the major powers agree, in which case they'd be perfectly able to act if the U.N. never existed at all.  I'd argue that its existence actually make things worse, because too many people look to it to solve problems, when it is structurally incapable of doing so.

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That's a feature, not a bug.  The entire purpose of the veto power in the SC is to give important countries the ability to prevent anything with which they don't agree.  And since virtually every conflict puts the major powers on opposite sides in one way or the other, nothing can happen.


And if they agreed unanimously on a course of action,   why do they need to take action through this body?   I remember that the only reason they took action in Korea is because the Russians boycotted.   



The only time the U.N. can ever act decisively on a key issue is when all the major powers agree, in which case they'd be perfectly able to act if the U.N. never existed at all.  I'd argue that its existence actually make things worse, because too many people look to it to solve problems, when it is structurally incapable of doing so.


Exactly.   I should have read your whole message before starting my reply.   Yes,  it is structurally incapable of being useful to humanity. 


This is just as well,  because I perceive most of Humanity to being quite wrong on all the important matters such as freedom,  gun control,  homosexuality,  abortion,  and so forth. 


Thank God the UN is a toothless pile of shat!   Now if we would only stop spending money on this dictator enabling scheme masquerading as a positive force in the world. 




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I guess he has no clue how many borders are patrolled or monitored by the UN

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I guess he has no clue how many borders are patrolled or monitored by the UN

They are not doing shit.

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I guess he has no clue how many borders are patrolled or monitored by the UN
Okay, how many? Where? To what benefit? At what cost? What are alternatives?
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I guess he has no clue how many borders are patrolled or monitored by the UN

I'm curious.  What, exactly, has the United Nations done for the people of Venezuela while they starve? 

Perhaps Trump isn't the one here that has "no clue".
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They are not doing shit.
Sure they are, I hey are raping little girls and boys.

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Okay, how many? Where? To what benefit? At what cost? What are alternatives?

Well the Rand Corp says they did a "bang up" job in Haiti. That place has never been better with them there.

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The only way to "solve" a conflict is for one side to win.

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The only way to "solve" a conflict is for one side to win.

Even if the conflict is between the people of a nation and the government of that nation?
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Seems like a pretty fair appraisal to me.

United Nations:  Another example of how we never learn.  Nobody remembered the League of Nations. 

And now, it's apparently too big and ingrained to get rid of.
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I'm curious.  What, exactly, has the United Nations done for the people of Venezuela while they starve? 

Perhaps Trump isn't the one here that has "no clue".

Trump definitely has a clue.  i just wish he wouldn't listen to Ivanka so much and insert 'like' in his comments.
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I'm curious.  What, exactly, has the United Nations done for the people of Venezuela while they starve? 

Perhaps Trump isn't the one here that has "no clue".

The UN has done exactly as much as Trump. Nothing. The UN is crap, similar to Trump.

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They are not doing shit.


Sure they are.   They spread a massive plague of Cholera some years back.   


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37126747


In fact,  sh*t was a major bi-product of their efforts.  That and dead people. 

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Nobody keeps lists of wars avoided and conflicts settled.

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The UN has done exactly as much as Trump. Nothing. The UN is crap, similar to Trump.

Your tantrums @geronl are tiresome.  Grow up.

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The UN has done exactly as much as Trump. Nothing. The UN is crap, similar to Trump.

But....but.... but........

the borders!  The patrols!!!     :silly:

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I guess he has no clue how many borders are patrolled or monitored by the UN
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