Trump’s wall jams GOP in shutdown talks

[mystery-ak]

Trump’s wall jams GOP in shutdown talks
By Scott Wong and Jordan Fabian - 04/24/17 07:35 PM EDT

No one is predicting a government shutdown at the end of the week, but few can say exactly how Republicans will get out of their latest jam.

Top White House officials are insisting the government-funding bill include billions for President Trump’s “great wall” along the U.S.-Mexico border.

But it’s unclear how far they’re willing to push the matter: The federal government will shut down early Saturday morning unless negotiators strike a bipartisan deal to keep the lights on.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/330330-trumps-wall-jams-gop-in-shutdown-talks

[Elderberry]

There were lots of articles on the effects of a govt shutdown back in 2013. He is one of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/09/30/absolutely-everything-you-need-to-know-about-how-the-government-shutdown-will-work/

[geronl]

Shut it down.

[corbe]

    Trump's Administration is totally hijacking the Budget Process from Ryan, just as they did the Repeal of AHCA, it will be a CF, just like the aforementioned.
    The 2015 Repeal Bill was ready, what happened/changed, you do the math.
    Reince is a Failure, and keeps proving it every Legislative initiative.   

[Chosen Daughter]

Shut it down.

Amen

[Chosen Daughter]

    Trump's Administration is totally hijacking the Budget Process from Ryan, just as they did the Repeal of AHCA, it will be a CF, just like the aforementioned.
    The 2015 Repeal Bill was ready, what happened/changed, you do the math.
    Reince is a Failure, and keeps proving it every Legislative initiative.

Americans voted for the wall.  Although Trump said that Mexico would pay for it.  Obviously Mexico is not going to pay.  Will a new wall reduce illegal immigration?  Will it be tunnel proof?  If it is going to do the job then we need to fund it.

I have absolutely had it with government on both sides of the isle who pander to illegal immigrants.  These people live in the United States as though they are citizens.  They have special tax id's.  Pay SS taxes.  Buy homes, businesses and cars.  They anchor themselves here with the help of our government.  And the tax payer is the one who provides health, dental, cash assistance.  Not to mention the costs of educating illegal immigrant children.  Prison...........etc.  We could get statistics for each state.  It is costly.

statistics from 2013.  You know that the numbers are much larger now.

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

[corbe]

   The Wall was authorized year ago, Congress took the money to dumb down the kids further and build bicycle paths, To derail an already fragile budget process over this is ludicrous and not to be understated-Immigration is already down close to 70%, give Ryan time and he'll have the Wall money toward the end of the year, Overload him so someone can get a check in the WIN column will have the same disastrous results as the Repeal, a CF.

[Chosen Daughter]

   The Wall was authorized year ago, Congress took the money to dumb down the kids further and build bicycle paths, To derail an already fragile budget process over this is ludicrous and not to be understated-Immigration is already down close to 70%, give Ryan time and he'll have the Wall money toward the end of the year, Overload him so someone can get a check in the WIN column will have the same disastrous results as the Repeal, a CF.

Well I hear your argument.  I thought the same thing about Trump care.  That he pushed it to get a check in the win column.  But holding off on the wall is going to hurt Republicans.  Americans will hold their feet to the fire on this issue.

[corbe]

   I wanted the Wall before it became Trump's #1 Campaign Issue, but to sabotage the possibility of the only Budget we've had in at least 10 years over something that just fulfills another pledge, in spite of the already drastic reduction in Illegal Immigration in the last 4 months will prove it's just about another check in the right column.

[libertybele]

Americans voted for the wall.  Although Trump said that Mexico would pay for it.  Obviously Mexico is not going to pay.  Will a new wall reduce illegal immigration?  Will it be tunnel proof?  If it is going to do the job then we need to fund it.

The "wall" is what boosted Trump's presidential campaign.  That was the #1 issue why his supporters rallied around him.  He cannot back down on that issue.  Problem is obviously $.  There are many DEMS and RINO's that will refuse to vote to fund it; hoping to sink his presidency. It will be interesting to see what happens .. I say...if Congress doesn't budge...then shut the government down.

Yes it will reduce illegal immigration; a physical barrier is not only a deterrent but sends a clear message; DO NOT ENTER! As for being tunnel proof?  I'm not sure of the answer, though I have read that the wall will be similar to the one in Israel. IMHO erecting a sufficient barrier at the border is long, long overdue.  It is what the American people want, it's what they voted on and this is what they should finally get; security.

Just a note; security fears and a widespread refusal to help migrants and refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building across the world, with a third of the world's countries constructing them along their borders.


Today, there are 65 either completed or under construction, according to Quebec University expert Elisabeth Vallet.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205724/How-65-countries-erected-security-walls-borders.html#ixzz4fDvJxeKv

[Chosen Daughter]

The "wall" is what boosted Trump's presidential campaign.  That was the #1 issue why his supporters rallied around him.  He cannot back down on that issue.  Problem is obviously $.  There are many DEMS and RINO's that will refuse to vote to fund it; hoping to sink his presidency. It will be interesting to see what happens .. I say...if Congress doesn't budge...then shut the government down.

Yes it will reduce illegal immigration; a physical barrier is not only a deterrent but sends a clear message; DO NOT ENTER! As for being tunnel proof?  I'm not sure of the answer, though I have read that the wall will be similar to the one in Israel. IMHO erecting a sufficient barrier at the border is long, long overdue.  It is what the American people want, it's what they voted on and this is what they should finally get; security.

Just a note; security fears and a widespread refusal to help migrants and refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building across the world, with a third of the world's countries constructing them along their borders.


Today, there are 65 either completed or under construction, according to Quebec University expert Elisabeth Vallet.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205724/How-65-countries-erected-security-walls-borders.html#ixzz4fDvJxeKv

I agree it is one campaign promise that people are going to hold him to.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Shut it down.

H#ll Yes!

"The only time a man's life, liberty and property are safe is when the Legislature's not in session."

Mark Twain

[Bigun]

Shut it down.

  And leave it down long enough for people to realize their lives won't end without it!