Élection Française 2017 - Live(ish) Thread

[Cyber Liberty]

What......You didn't really say that ...did you?

Not according to the posting software, nope...

[Wingnut]

Well this thread has started nicely.

[Cripplecreek]

"Anti-globalists"?  Isn't it the other way around?

Let's stick to the topic.

-MOD1

[Machiavelli]

Holy Macron, Batman!

[jmyrlefuller]

"Anti-globalists"?  Isn't it the other way around?

It went both ways.

Obama injected himself on behalf of Macron.

The international hackers tried to inject themselves on behalf of Le Pen.

Naturally, given France's notorious progressivism and the fact that the Le Pen name is synonymous with perennial fringe candidacy, Macron already had the edge.

[Smokin Joe]

'A woman will be president of France either way, either Angela Merkel or Me.'

Marine Le Pen. (Paraphrased comment made during the last debate.)

Globalists 1, France 0
The jihad will continue.

Just keeping score.

[Wingnut]

France elected a Macaroon for President.

[ABX]

'A woman will be president of France either way, either Angela Merkel or Me.'

Marine Le Pen. (Paraphrased comment made during the last debate.)

Globalists 1, France 0
The jihad will continue.

Just keeping score.

LePen was a globalist in her own right. She vocally supports John Maynard Keynes’s Havana Charter for international economy and trade.  This is even to the left of American leftists.

https://www.wto.org/english/docs_e/legal_e/havana_e.pdf

[Cripplecreek]

LePen was a globalist in her own right. She vocally supports John Maynard Keynes’s Havana Charter for international economy and trade.  This is even to the left of American leftists.

https://www.wto.org/english/docs_e/legal_e/havana_e.pdf

Anyone outside of France who was pulling for one side or the other to  win was behaving in a globalist manner.

I see American idiots on twitter already calling for a "worldwide" conservative party to promote and support "conservatives" like LePen worldwide. Apparently if you say "worldwide" nobody will notice the promotion of globalism.

[Smokin Joe]

LePen was a globalist in her own right. She vocally supports John Maynard Keynes’s Havana Charter for international economy and trade.  This is even to the left of American leftists.

https://www.wto.org/english/docs_e/legal_e/havana_e.pdf

Neither is perfect, but LePen seemed to understand that continued Muslim invasion is the greatest threat. Macron has bought into the 'multiculturalism' that will erase Europe. It is a more insidious form of globalism.

[TomSea]

They said Fillon stood a chance if he got in there and then, the scandals hit Fillon.  In the election of a few weeks ago, he got 19%, Le Pen something like 24%? 21? In that general area.

Unfortunate but this fellow, Macron,  has a JFK type of youth, younger. Sometimes leaders turn out different than we expect.

[EC]

Lots of interesting post analysis here: https://www.ft.com/content/62d782d6-31a7-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a

One very interesting graphic:



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[dfwgator]

La France est morte.

[TomSea]

With that margin of victory,  Macron appears he would have routed any of his competitors.

Though, Hollande is a socialist, France has been taking the fight to the terrorists.

The most important thing is immigration, hopefully, they will not be taking in a whole lot.

Just trying to discern the differences.

Wanting to leave NATO and the EU probably didn't strike the public favorably with Le Pen, her immigration stances were probably acceptable.

[TomSea]

Excerpts:

Five reasons why Macron won the French election

He got lucky

He was canny

He tried something new in France

Having established En Marche, he took his cue from Barack Obama's grassroots 2008 US election campaign, says Paris-based freelance journalist Emily Schultheis.

His first major undertaking was the Grande Marche (Big March), when he mobilised his growing ranks of energised but inexperienced En Marche activists.

He had a positive message

He was up against Marine Le Pen

- http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39791036

[Wingnut]

Not according to the posting software, nope...

Blame it on the software!   

[TomSea]

From: France has decided, but it is far from over by Cornelia Meyer

The French presidential election reinforced the reversal of fortune in anti-European sentiment. Still, Wilders’ party ranks second in the Netherlands. Britain is poised for Brexit, which will prove to be a painful experience on both sides of the Channel. As for France, it is not over yet: On June 11, the French will elect a new Parliament. Whereas France’s president has sweeping powers, experience tells us that coalitions tend to achieve little.

It will be hard for Macron to obtain a majority in Parliament, given that En Marche! does not yet have the apparatus of an established party at its disposal. Furthermore, during the last stage of the presidential election both the Socialists and Republicans supported Macron, mainly in opposition to Le Pen’s extreme views. Now they will run their own candidates on their own tickets. The FN and the Left Party are also back in the fray.

For the time being Europe may have stemmed the tide of populism, but between fickle majorities, German elections, Brexit, the Greek debt crisis and the Italian banking crisis, the summer of 2017 promises to be politically hot.

Continued: http://www.arabnews.com/node/1096656/columns