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I do know we had the conversation with the gays in question, my wife and I know them very well-nown them for 55 years and 35+ years, they know we are not anti gay or anti marriage which would skew their answer. None of them said they were abused ever. Yes, many gays have been abused but most have not.

Since you seem to favor the observation POV... I have known two gay fellows, both neighbors at one time.

One (John) was raised an only child by his aunt, mother died at birth, father an alcoholic died while John was around 4 or 5. Left with money from selling the family business, John was smothered in a cocoon from then on. He was not allowed to go outside and play, he only interaction with others was piano lessons and school. He was dressed in fancy garb day in and day out making him target of kids in school. He had no understanding how to cope with other children so he sunk further and further into his own little world. He once on valentines day asked his aunt for a box of chocolates for a girl he fancied at school. This backfired on him in ways kids can be cruel, she taunted him and her friends taunted him for daring to approach her in such a manner. Then the guys sensed his weakness and taunted him. He never got over that as far as I could tell. He just slipped into pretending to be asexual from that point on until he graduated and moved off.

Case Two. Chris (and Chris B).

Chris came from a wealthy affluent family in the community. Mother was sweet-natured Christian socialite who had her hand in about everything, Father was very busy businessman in the hosiery industry who had little time to devote to carefree son. Chris was the third child born very late behind his brothers. He was also basically left to be raised by his mother who left him to his rich playboy lifestyle in a small town. He was not very athletic but well liked because he drove the best cars, had blow dough, and drugs. Plus having two big brothers in a small town tends to keep the bully part down. Chris went wild basically, but managed to keep most of it hidden from his mother whom he did love. Chris found a friend in another fellow (also named Chris) that fancied himself (We will call him Chris B) a budding actor. I don't know a whole lot about the other Chris (Chris B) because he was not a neighbor, but he seemed to be not rich and enjoyed the company of rich Chris. They often would spend their time visiting people in the play acting business in a nearby big city. The two of them became gayer by the year. Both died of aids years later, both had numerous partners over the years.
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Do I believe homosexuality is science (just happens)? No. It was a learned behavior over time. Rebellion in one case, fear of failure in another. Mental issues.

But if you can find the gene for it, lets us know, I am sure those for abortion would love to check before having a baby to abort it so they can have grandchildren.
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Since you seem to favor the observation POV... I have known two gay fellows, both neighbors at one time.

One (John) was raised an only child by his aunt, mother died at birth, father an alcoholic died while John was around 4 or 5. Left with money from selling the family business, John was smothered in a cocoon from then on. He was not allowed to go outside and play, he only interaction with others was piano lessons and school. He was dressed in fancy garb day in and day out making him target of kids in school. He had no understanding how to cope with other children so he sunk further and further into his own little world. He once on valentines day asked his aunt for a box of chocolates for a girl he fancied at school. This backfired on him in ways kids can be cruel, she taunted him and her friends taunted him for daring to approach her in such a manner. Then the guys sensed his weakness and taunted him. He never got over that as far as I could tell. He just slipped into pretending to be asexual from that point on until he graduated and moved off.

Case Two. Chris (and Chris B).

Chris came from a wealthy affluent family in the community. Mother was sweet-natured Christian socialite who had her hand in about everything, Father was very busy businessman in the hosiery industry who had little time to devote to carefree son. Chris was the third child born very late behind his brothers. He was also basically left to be raised by his mother who left him to his rich playboy lifestyle in a small town. He was not very athletic but well liked because he drove the best cars, had blow dough, and drugs. Plus having two big brothers in a small town tends to keep the bully part down. Chris went wild basically, but managed to keep most of it hidden from his mother whom he did love. Chris found a friend in another fellow (also named Chris) that fancied himself (We will call him Chris B) a budding actor. I don't know a whole lot about the other Chris (Chris B) because he was not a neighbor, but he seemed to be not rich and enjoyed the company of rich Chris. They often would spend their time visiting people in the play acting business in a nearby big city. The two of them became gayer by the year. Both died of aids years later, both had numerous partners over the years.
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Do I believe homosexuality is science (just happens)? No. It was a learned behavior over time. Rebellion in one case, fear of failure in another. Mental issues.

But if you can find the gene for it, lets us know, I am sure those for abortion would love to check before having a baby to abort it so they can have grandchildren.

Yep my brother like John.  Mom was sick with cancer.  Dad never home.  When my mother died he practically raised himself.  Was bullied at school and Dad had no idea what was going on.  Then my mother died and about a year later my father married.  She was a control freak.  Put him in piano.  He was always dressed well.  Didn't wear jeans or have a normal boys life.  No sports.  No socializing with other boys.  She didn't like dirty at all.

This is how I know that my brother was shaped by his experiences while he was young.  He was not born gay.
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@Sighlasss You see, I knew a fellow like that in college. He was raised by an aunt on the Garden Party circuit in Virginia, and spoke and gestured effeminately. We took him in as a project and taught him to drink like a longshoreman, cuss like a stable boy, drive like a bootlegger, even took him caving and camping. It gave him one heck of a shot in the arm, and a group of 'bros' who had his back. The funny part was that he had it all over us ruffians. He spoke five languages fluently and could dance (really, ballroom dance, not just jump around in time to the music or belly rub) the legs off of any 4 or 5 women in a night. And he was by no account anything but a ladies man after that, and used his newfound confidence to end up with a wonderful and incredibly attractive wife.

I guess a lot depends on the people they meet.
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Yep, reason they want to get to them young if they can. Schools are the battleground and they know it.
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Yep, reason they want to get to them young if they can. Schools are the battleground and they know it.

Yup, that's why they told us "All normal boys have homosexual thoughts and feelings." in middleschool.

Fortunately us rural kids already knew BS when we saw it.

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I don't think the adulterers and fornicators make a habit of getting in people's faces and screaming at them about how they need to be accepted for their sexual proclivities.   


They also don't demand to indoctrinate everyone regarding adultery and fornication.   They also don't demand Federal and State government expenditures to clean up the diseased mess they create by their adultery and fornication.

Christian business owners are not refusing to sell to adulters and fornicators. I found one case in Scotland of a B&B where you had to prove you are married.

If they did youu would see thousands of lawsuits against the Christian business owners.


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Christian business owners are not refusing to sell to adulters and fornicators.

Adulterers and fornicators are not shoving their behavior into the faces of Christian businesses and demanding they bake cakes or photograph their behavior.

There is still some shame left in engaging in such behavior.

Homosexuality - not so much.  They have parades to flaunt it among other things.
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Bammy declared the month of June as LGBT Pride Month ... can President Trump rescind that?
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Science would tell us that the alimentary canal is a one-way street, and not intended to be a sex organ.

If not for an evolutionarily advantageous reason, why do you suppose the Creator put all those pleasure sensory nerve endings one penis-length within the posterior end of the male alimentary canal, where they are not otherwise accessed?

I'm hypothesizing that some male homosexuality in a population might serve an evolutionary purpose, and that our anatomy reflects that.

Or is this one of those cases where God provides forbidden temptations just to torment people, à la The Book of Job?
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If not for an evolutionarily advantageous reason, why do you suppose the Creator put all those pleasure sensory nerve endings one penis-length within the posterior end of the male alimentary canal, where they are not otherwise accessed?

I'm hypothesizing that some male homosexuality in a population might serve an evolutionary purpose, and that our anatomy reflects that.

Or is this one of those cases where God provides forbidden temptations just to torment people, à la The Book of Job?
So long fingered doctors would get to do prostate checks, too?

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So long fingered doctors would get to do prostate checks, too?

Damn, @Smokin Joe ...I actually twitched after reading that!     :smokin:
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If not for an evolutionarily advantageous reason, why do you suppose the Creator put all those pleasure sensory nerve endings one penis-length within the posterior end of the male alimentary canal, where they are not otherwise accessed?

It feels good to hatch a monster loaf number one -

Number two - the Cowpers gland exists there in that location for the sole purpose of creating alkaline mucous pre-ejaculate to protect sperm through the urethra so acid from urine will not kill it.  It's right below the prostate and is not there for the purpose of anal sex pleasure - but is there upon stimulation of normal sex to prepare the sperm for the express train to meet an egg.

After having a lower GI and on a first-name basis with my urologist - I can state unequivocally that items inserted in the OUT BOX are hardly anything pleasurable.  Even when Mr. Urologist has to manhandle the prostate to check for cancer growths.
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It feels good to hatch a monster loaf number one -

Number two - the Cowpers gland exists there in that location for the sole purpose of creating alkaline mucous pre-ejaculate to protect sperm through the urethra so acid from urine will not kill it.  It's right below the prostate and is not there for the purpose of anal sex pleasure - but is there upon stimulation of normal sex to prepare the sperm for the express train to meet an egg.

After having a lower GI and on a first-name basis with my urologist - I can state unequivocally that items inserted in the OUT BOX are hardly anything pleasurable.  Even when Mr. Urologist has to manhandle the prostate to check for cancer growths.

Well, I've never had the, uh, pleasure, of exploring this avenue...   ...but there are plenty of glands in the body that don't have stimulation nerve endings...so why is the Cowpers gland so different?  Manual stimulation isn't required for its function.

What's the evolutionary benefit of pleasure during defecation?
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Well, I've never had the, uh, pleasure, of exploring this avenue...   ...but there are plenty of glands in the body that don't have stimulation nerve endings...so why is the Cowpers gland so different?  Manual stimulation isn't required for its function.

What's the evolutionary benefit of pleasure during defecation?
Not only do you have the inherent gratification of creating a work of art worthy of Robert Mapplethorpe, it keeps you moving--and may be part of the reason failure to evacuate is unpleasant as well.
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Not only do you have the inherent gratification of creating a work of art worthy of Robert Mapplethorpe, it keeps you moving--and may be part of the reason failure to evacuate is unpleasant as well.

Joe gets it. 

Of course - ridding yourself of a creamy behemoth often results in our own individual Picasso Bowl Masterpieces that may take several flushes to water down and diminish.
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Hey, guys - you do know you're not in here by yourselves, right?

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Hey, guys - you do know you're not in here by yourselves, right?

Thanks for saying that.

I think I need to "Mark as read" this thread every time a new post comes up.

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@musiclady @Sanguine Well, ladies, we were commenting on modern art. Sculpture, to be precise. Something with an organic air. Somewhat precocious but not premature. Don't worry. This too will pass.

We now return to our regularly scheduled thread about homosexuals reacting badly to religious adornment.  :silly:
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@musiclady @Sanguine Well, ladies, we were commenting on modern art. Sculpture, to be precise. Something with an organic air. Somewhat precocious but not premature. Don't worry. This too will pass.

We now return to our regularly scheduled thread about homosexuals reacting badly to religious adornment.  :silly:

Whatever it was, I'm glad it's over!

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Well, I've never had the, uh, pleasure, of exploring this avenue...   ...but there are plenty of glands in the body that don't have stimulation nerve endings...so why is the Cowpers gland so different?  Manual stimulation isn't required for its function.

What's the evolutionary benefit of pleasure during defecation?

Prostate in a male is the uterus in a female. Cowper gland in a male is the same tissue that becomes the cervix in a female. It's the same bunch of cells, repurposed to make two different organs.

What, you thought boys and girls developed in utero completely differently?
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Prostate in a male is the uterus in a female. Cowper gland in a male is the same tissue that becomes the cervix in a female. It's the same bunch of cells, repurposed to make two different organs.

What, you thought boys and girls developed in utero completely differently?
Well, some stem cells become stems... :shrug: :whistle:
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Prostate in a male is the uterus in a female. Cowper gland in a male is the same tissue that becomes the cervix in a female. It's the same bunch of cells, repurposed to make two different organs.

What, you thought boys and girls developed in utero completely differently?

No, I didn't.  I'm very aware of this.

I'm not the one arguing that a Creator created things perfectly for their intended purpose, etc., etc.
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Hey, guys - you do know you're not in here by yourselves, right?

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Thank you.  I dropped in and backed out quick.  Ugh.

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Holy cow, this thing imploded quicker than a Bishop's synod in a gay bar.
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Holy cow, this thing imploded quicker than a Bishop's synod in a gay bar.

Hah!  I check in on this thread occasionally to see how crazy it's gotten.  The answer is:

Real.
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