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Offline driftdiver

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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2017, 05:38:49 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on April 13, 2017, 05:32:49 pm
I would think it would have set some instruments off.  I'll look too.

I wonder if this was a message to North Korea as well.

It positively will get the attention of any survivors who saw it.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2017, 05:42:11 pm »
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2017, 05:43:43 pm »
May not be a nuke but it is a WMD
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2017, 05:47:09 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 13, 2017, 05:43:43 pm
May not be a nuke but it is a WMD

Not by legal standards (only by descriptive nature)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332a

A WMD by legal standard has to be toxic, chemical, biological, or radioactive.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2017, 05:53:25 pm »
Wonder what fat boy kim did upon seeing this news today? Wonder what the mullahs are thinking today as well?
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2017, 05:54:25 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:47:09 pm
Not by legal standards (only by descriptive nature)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332a

A WMD by legal standard has to be toxic, chemical, biological, or radioactive.

Interesting. What if the blast could level a whole city? Still not a WMD?
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2017, 05:54:57 pm »
Quote from: flowers on April 13, 2017, 05:53:25 pm
Wonder what fat boy kim did upon seeing this news today? Wonder what the mullahs are thinking today as well?

That they sure miss the days of when there was a limp d!_k in the WH.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2017, 05:55:25 pm »
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U.S. drops "mother of all bombs" in Afghanistan, marking weapon's first use
CBS News, Apr 13, 2017

The U.S. dropped a bomb containing 11 tons of explosives on an ISIS cave complex in Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province on the border with Pakistan on Thursday, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed to CBS News’ David Martin.

The bomb is officially called a GBU-43 or Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB), leading to its nickname as the “mother of all bombs.” The weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in the U.S. arsenal and has never before been used in combat.

“The strike was designed to minimize the risk to Afghan and U.S. Forces conducting clearing operations in the area while maximizing the destruction of ISIS-K fighters and facilities,” the Pentagon said in a statement, using the term for the Islamic State’s Afghanistan branch.

The military also said the U.S. “took every precaution to avoid civilian casualties with this strike.”

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the strike targeted a “system of tunnels and caves that ISIS fighters used to move around freely.” He said the U.S. “took all precautions necessary” to minimize civilian casualties.

The Afghanistan strike had been in the works for a number of months, Martin reports. The weapon was brought into Afghanistan specifically for this mission.

General John Nicholson, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, was required to get permission to use the weapon, but it’s unclear how far up the chain of command his request traveled.




http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-drops-mother-of-all-bombs-in-afghanistan-marking-weapons-first-use/
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2017, 05:56:08 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 13, 2017, 05:54:25 pm
Interesting. What if the blast could level a whole city? Still not a WMD?

Not in the eyes of the law.  Still a conventional weapon, just very, very big.

The WMD definition is very clear because it covers munitions restricted by international laws and treaties.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2017, 05:58:46 pm »
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US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan after Green Beret killed
By Lucas Tomlinson Published April 13, 2017 FoxNews.com

The U.S. military dropped its largest non-nuclear bomb in eastern Afghanistan on Thursday, just days after a Green Beret was killed fighting ISIS there, a U.S. defense official confirmed to Fox News.

The GBU-43B, a 21,000-pound conventional bomb, was dropped on an ISIS tunnel complex in Nangarhar Province.

The Massive Ordinance Air Blast was first tested in 2003. (DOD)

The MOAB -- Massive Ordinance Air Blast -- is also known as the “Mother Of All bombs.” It was first tested in 2003, but hadn't been used in combat before Thursday.

WHAT IS THE 'MOTHER OF ALL BOMBS'?

The MOAB is so massive it had to be dropped out of the back of a U.S. Air Force C-130 cargo plane.

"We kicked it out the back door," one U.S. official told Fox News.

For comparison to the 21,000-pound MOAB, each Tomahawk cruise missile launched at a Syrian military air base last week was 1,000-pounds each.

Continued: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/13/us-drops-largest-non-nuclear-bomb-in-afghanistan-after-green-beret-killed.html
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm »
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2017, 05:59:16 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 13, 2017, 05:43:43 pm
May not be a nuke but it is a WMD

Wrong again.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2017, 06:07:12 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.

Oddly, the markets are pretty much shrugging this off at this point.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2017, 06:10:32 pm »
Quote from: flowers on April 13, 2017, 05:53:25 pm
Wonder what fat boy kim did upon seeing this news today?

@flowers 




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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2017, 06:17:33 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.

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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2017, 06:18:51 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.

Aww. I'll cancel the popcorn then.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2017, 06:22:24 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.
  good one!   :silly:
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2017, 06:23:15 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
Can we all say a quick prayer that Sean Spicer is not allowed to make a statement on the matter.

You mean like: "Hitler never deployed MOABs"?
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2017, 06:34:16 pm »
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White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the strike targeted a “system of tunnels and caves that ISIS fighters used to move around freely.”

I wonder why they chose to use this MOAB as opposed to the MOP 'bunker buster' we were hearing about a few years ago that were made to dig down into underground areas.  Maybe a wider target range as opposed to a deeper one?


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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2017, 06:37:33 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 13, 2017, 06:07:12 pm
Oddly, the markets are pretty much shrugging this off at this point.

Just another day in Afghanistan. If it were somewhere else, it may effect the markets. The only difference today is the size of the boom.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2017, 06:38:58 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on April 13, 2017, 06:34:16 pm
I wonder why they chose to use this MOAB as opposed to the MOP 'bunker buster' we were hearing about a few years ago that were made to dig down into underground areas.  Maybe a wider target range as opposed to a deeper one?

Maybe it was sitting in a warehouse there and they didn't want to have to ship it back.  Ordnance disposal.
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Re: Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2017, 06:39:53 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on April 13, 2017, 06:38:58 pm
Maybe it was sitting in a warehouse there and they didn't want to have to ship it back.  Ordnance disposal.

Efficient!
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