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Offline JannTosh

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is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« on: March 27, 2017, 07:55:44 pm »
he seems to be doing the same thing as Democrats by breaking everyone down into groups and pandering them and promising them entitlements. What happened to the Trump that ran on an anti PC Agenda?
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 08:00:07 pm »
Quote from: JannTosh on March 27, 2017, 07:55:44 pm
What happened to the Trump that ran on an anti PC Agenda?

It was all smoke and mirrors that the suckers bought hook, line and sinker.

We warned that Trump was a lifelong liberal NY Democrat.

No one wanted to hear it because.... because 'THE WALL' and 'Trump will drain the swamp'.

Gullible suckers, all.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 08:35:59 pm »
NY Values.

Ya know, they aren't the same as Iowa values.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 08:39:38 pm »
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 08:40:42 pm »
Define what you mean by too leftist on social issues, then we can talk.

According to some, Jesus was too leftist on social issues.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 08:42:03 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on March 27, 2017, 08:35:59 pm
NY Values.

Ya know, they aren't the same as Iowa values.

Yes, Cruz really got slammed for pointing that out.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 08:42:35 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 27, 2017, 08:40:42 pm
Define what you mean by too leftist on social issues, then we can talk.

According to some, Jesus was too leftist on social issues.

Jesus did not propose or support a single government program.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2017, 08:43:24 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 27, 2017, 08:40:42 pm
Define what you mean by too leftist on social issues, then we can talk.

According to some, Jesus was too leftist on social issues.


the numerous entitlements he wants to create


he keeps talking about how we need to create this or that entitlement for women or black people or who ever
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2017, 08:46:43 pm »
Quote from: geronl on March 27, 2017, 08:42:35 pm
Jesus did not propose or support a single government program.

Fed the 5000, didn't ask if they were looking for work first.
Healed the sick, didn't ask for their insurance card.
Mentioned something about rendering unto Caesar - a very leftist POV.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2017, 08:48:23 pm »
Quote from: JannTosh on March 27, 2017, 08:43:24 pm

the numerous entitlements he wants to create


he keeps talking about how we need to create this or that entitlement for women or black people or who ever

Why does he think these various groups "deserve" whatever? I pretty much ignore the guy now unless he's on my turf, so, can you give an example?
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2017, 08:49:41 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 27, 2017, 08:46:43 pm
Fed the 5000, didn't ask if they were looking for work first.
Healed the sick, didn't ask for their insurance card.
Mentioned something about rendering unto Caesar - a very leftist POV.

Nope, nope and nope.

None of that is socialism (and I think you know that, EC).

The argument that Jesus was a liberal is SO 20th century.....
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2017, 08:53:58 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 27, 2017, 08:49:41 pm
Nope, nope and nope.

None of that is socialism (and I think you know that, EC).

The argument that Jesus was a liberal is SO 20th century.....

Aww. Spoiling my fun ...  **nononono*

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The problem is, they can easily all lead to socialism. We're not perfect, yet we do have the God given impulse to help others. Personal urges to help others can very easily lead to gentle then not so gentle coercion to make others help the less fortunate, by throwing tax money at a problem, for example.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2017, 08:54:25 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 27, 2017, 08:42:03 pm
Yes, Cruz really got slammed for pointing that out.

FOX News turned on him hardest of all. It was seen as a personal attack on their boyfriend and everybody else who mattered to them.

Funny how quickly they forgot their false outrage over this little gem from Andrew Cuomo.

“The Republican Party candidates are running against the SAFE Act — it was voted for by moderate Republicans who run the Senate! Their problem is not me and the Democrats; their problem is themselves. Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2017, 08:56:08 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 27, 2017, 08:53:58 pm
Aww. Spoiling my fun ...  **nononono*

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The problem is, they can easily all lead to socialism. We're not perfect, yet we do have the God given impulse to help others. Personal urges to help others can very easily lead to gentle then not so gentle coercion to make others help the less fortunate, by throwing tax money at a problem, for example.

My whole purpose here at TBR is to ruin people's fun.  :dx1:
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2017, 09:24:30 pm »
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2017, 09:26:42 pm »
Quote from: JannTosh on March 27, 2017, 09:24:30 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/07/democrats-love-ivanka-trumps-child-care-paid-family-leave-plan/

his daughter  is pushing big entitlements and liberal social issues

Trump's personally invited guest at the GOP convention stood on stage and said that if conservatives can't tolerate gay marriage, there is the door.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2017, 09:28:24 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on March 27, 2017, 09:26:42 pm
Trump's personally invited guest at the GOP convention stood on stage and said that if conservatives can't tolerate gay marriage, there is the door.



you know, I don't really care about gay marriage that much since it doesn't affect me. This type of pandering and entitlement spending for certain groups though is right out of the Democratic playbook
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2017, 09:33:38 pm »
Might I interject a bit of reality here and say that Trump has ALWAYS been a liberal on social issues?

There is absolutely nothing new in his, or his daughter's pushing them.  It's who they are.

And part of the reason many of us couldn't vote for Trump.
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2017, 09:50:03 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-convenes-panel-on-empowering-women-in-business/

lol "empowering women in business"?  Sounds no different than a Democrat on this type of stuff
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2017, 10:24:28 pm »
Quote from: JannTosh on March 27, 2017, 09:50:03 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-convenes-panel-on-empowering-women-in-business/

lol "empowering women in business"?  Sounds no different than a Democrat on this type of stuff

Well, now that's a change since Trump has always in the past demeaned and used women.

Empowering us is quite unusual for a sexist predator like him.....
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2017, 11:47:16 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on March 27, 2017, 08:35:59 pm
NY Values.

Ya know, they aren't the same as Iowa values.

 Definitely not!    888high58888
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Re: is Trump too leftist on social issues?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2017, 10:40:11 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on March 27, 2017, 08:35:59 pm
NY Values.

Ya know, they aren't the same as Iowa values.

Depends on which New York you're talking about. If it's Manhattan, yes. If it's the Bronx, Queens,
Staten Island, or Brooklyn, you'll find a pretty hefty debate in which the combatants all have one
thing in common---they're no more thrilled about Manhattan than anyone else. Besides, there
hasn't been a farm seen within the borders of the five boroughs of New York since before the
turn of the 20th century. (I know---my paternal grandmother was raised on such a farm, a small
dairy farm at that.)
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