American Political Integrity Is in a State of Collapse

[rangerrebew]

American Political Integrity Is in a State of Collapse

 by David French

March 23, 2017 2:08 PM @DavidAFrench

In the political version of the Iran–Iraq war, everyone has grievances and no one has virtues. There is humor in almost everything, even the fast-motion collapse of honesty and integrity in American political discourse.

On Tuesday the Washington Post (no, not the Onion) actually published a piece by former Obama national security-adviser Susan Rice titled, “When the White House twists the truth, we are all less safe.” Yes, that happened. The woman who went on every major Sunday-morning news program after the Benghazi terrorist attacks and told flat-out falsehoods about its nature and motivations is now lecturing America about integrity. A person who was one of the chief national-security officials when the Obama administration was spinning false narratives about the Iran nuclear deal actually wrote this:

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446033/character-political-culture-america-virtue-integrity-dishonesty-collapse-elites-voters

[musiclady]

Well, when the Republican party sold its soul last summer and nominated a liberal serial liar, we all should have known that the only party to have any integrity left was compromised beyond repair.

[Cripplecreek]

Well, when the Republican party sold its soul last summer and nominated a liberal serial liar, we all should have known that the only party to have any integrity left was compromised beyond repair.

A clear sign of our cultural degeneration.

[musiclady]

A clear sign of our cultural degeneration.

Agreed.

The cultural rot has reached across the aisle, and what began as a leftist dream to destroy the country is now in both parties.

[geronl]

Political integrity? In my lifetime? where?

[EasyAce]

Well, when the Republican party sold its soul last summer and nominated a liberal serial liar, we all should have known that the only party to have any integrity left was compromised beyond repair.

The only party that has any integrity left is the surprise party.

[Fishrrman]

Browsing this thread, all I can think is:

[truth_seeker]

People DIED in Susan Rice's Benghazi, but all the nattering nevertrump nabobs of negatism can do is talk about Trump

President Trump is trying to do things YOU have demanded for 8+ years. Admit it. It is an obsession.

[corbe]

People DIED in Susan Rice's Benghazi, but all the nattering nevertrumpo nabobs of negatism can do is talk about Trump

President Trump is trying to do things YOU have demanded for 8+ years. Admit it.

@truth_seeker

    A few excellent Dept. heads, a Superior Supreme Court nomination, Pipelines, some good Regulatory Reforms through EO, but not much else, IMHO.
    I know other Candidates that were running that would, in all probability beat Hillary and got all the aforementioned stuff AND a Repeal/Replace done also. JS

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Voters say they dislike dishonest politicians, but Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were two of the least honest politicians in modern American history. They won their parties’ primaries, and neither race was particularly close. Tribalism can be just as corrupting for a coal miner in Kentucky as it can be for a “deep state” intelligence analyst in Langley. America needs political virtue. Where will she find it?

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446033/character-political-culture-america-virtue-integrity-dishonesty-collapse-elites-voters

[LMAO]

People DIED in Susan Rice's Benghazi, but all the nattering nevertrump nabobs of negatism can do is talk about Trump

President Trump is trying to do things YOU have demanded for 8+ years. Admit it. It is an obsession.

Having the likes of Susan Rice lecture us on honesty does ring hollow

[truth_seeker]

@truth_seeker

    A few excellent Dept. heads, a Superior Supreme Court nomination, Pipelines, some good Regulatory Reforms through EO, but not much else, IMHO.
    I know other Candidates that were running that would, in all probability beat Hillary and got all the aforementioned stuff AND a Repeal/Replace done also. JS

So just dismissing the most conservative budget since Reagan, or even before?

I happen to think he is the ONLY one that could have defeated Hillary. Your "other candidates" pretty much didn't get out of the blocks, or were soundly defeated in the primary.

But that is history. Going forward is an elected Republican not in the mold of McCain or Romney to lose with dignity, but lose nevertheless. And one that is boldly putting forward conservative programs.

Some Republican voters can't be happy their representatives select Ryan to "lead" them. I'm not.

[Cripplecreek]

Politics has nothing to do with it.

Integrity of most of America's people is just part of the cultural degeneracy going on.

[musiclady]

Browsing this thread, all I can think is:

You clearly have lost your ability to read, @Fishrrman

This short thread is about the degradation of integrity and cultural rot, and the embracing of Donald Trump by people who used to care about integrity and morality is a part of the problem.

If you can't deal with it, I suggest you find another thread where you can contribute to what's actually being said without insulting the fine members of this forum.

[rangerrebew]

I posted this earlier in Health.  This would suggest the lack of political integrity is have an effect on individual Americans as well.



National Corruption Breeds Personal Dishonesty

A shady government influences the moral behavior of its citizens

    By Simon Makin on March 1, 2017
 

One bad apple spoils the barrel, so the saying goes. But what if the barrel itself is rotten?

A number of studies have shown that seeing a peer behave unethically increases people's dishonesty in laboratory tests. What is much harder to investigate is how this kind of influence operates at a societal level. But that is exactly what behavioral economists Simon Gächter of the University of Nottingham in England and Jonathan Schulz of Yale University set out to do in a study published in March 2016 in Nature. Their findings suggest that corruption not only harms a nation's prosperity but also shapes the moral behavior of its citizens. The results have implications for interventions aimed at tackling corruption.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/national-corruption-breeds-personal-dishonesty/

[EasyAce]

Having the likes of Susan Rice lecture us on honesty is a lot like learning about love from Attila the Hun.

Fixed!

[Taxcontrol]

President Trump is trying to do things YOU have demanded for 8+ years. Admit it. It is an obsession.

Not with Obamacare he is not.  Further, he has ALWAYS said that he supported some form of "government care".
But that is not what is wanted.  People want Obamacare GONE.  And neither Trump nor Ryan are moving in that direction.