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I’ve been as guilty as any of them.  Eight years of Obama turned me into an angry conservative intent on slaying liberal dragons through tasteless methods and angry rants.  I might have been uncomfortable with the “libtard” language and while I never bought into ridiculous notions like the birther movement, I never shut it down either.

There is no denying that I’ve often been in the wrong with the approach that my platform has allowed me and watching some of my counterparts in conservative media echo much of what I often partook now makes me cringe- angry at myself that I didn’t have the foresight to see what this would lead to.


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Brittany Pounders, the conservative with the porn star name and I know exactly how she feels. The angry aggressive turn of "conservatism" is what drove me away from TOS after years of being cowed away from things like mentioning feelings of compassion for those outside the accepted group.

I'm not a child and don't care what my "peers" think.

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 06:26:42 PM »
@Weird Tolkienish Figure @CatherineofAragon

You guys might enjoy this editorial from Brittany Pounders

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 06:59:48 PM »
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"Just because people in positions of authority are stupid, it doesn’t mean you have to go along with it." —Arlo Guthrie

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 08:25:53 PM »
The young lady is definitely worth keeping an ear on.

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 08:36:39 PM »
@Cripplecreek

"And in doing so, we were setting ourselves up for a fall.  Our audiences echoed us.  Outraged and angry.  Ready to set fire to the building but forgetting we still live there.  Reacting to legitimate policy problems with nothing but anger based solely on ideology and ready to do anything to appease our emotions-even if it meant to cut off our nose to spite our face."

Lots of wisdom in that article.  I wish some of the people who are still tearing forward fueled by high-octane anger would check themselves.  It's a terribly sad thing that the conservative movement is no longer based on reason, but on emotion.


"This inevitably paved the way for the new era of “conservatism.”  One that felt way too comfortable partnering up with bigotry, misogyny, racism.  Also, one that was heartrendingly accepting of moral relativism. "

I've seen people elsewhere saying that they won't condemn Tomi Lahren because hey, she's a good voice for our side.


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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 08:50:40 PM »
@CatherineofAragon

Political rioters They want to burn it all down with no thought for what comes next.

I won't say they're working toward the communist goals but they're sure reading from the playbook. It doesn't matter what the intentions are but using the Alinsky and Cloward/Piven strategies will lead to nothing but destruction. Steve Bannon has openly stated that he wants to create chaos.
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Nothing should make a man happier than knowing his government couldn't care less about him.
I'd rather lose defending the constitution than win at its expense.
Hitlers are born and die every day without notice. Its the morons who put them in power that are dangerous.
You don't escape guilt by declaring that you have no choice.
Lèse-majesté is my middle name

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 09:11:20 PM »
I've seen people elsewhere saying that they won't condemn Tomi Lahren because hey, she's a good voice for our side.

@CatherineofAragon

Once upon a time the same thing was said about Robert Welch. Wonder if they've forgotten how that
worked out for him.

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 09:14:33 PM »
@CatherineofAragon

Political rioters They want to burn it all down with no thought for what comes next.

I won't say they're working toward the communist goals but they're sure reading from the playbook. It doesn't matter what the intentions are but using the Alinsky and Cloward/Piven strategies will lead to nothing but destruction. Steve Bannon has openly stated that he wants to create chaos.

@Cripplecreek

Didn't Bannon also make a complimentary remark about one of the founding fathers, so to speak, of Communism?  I can't remember who it was.  Or am I imagining that?
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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 09:20:16 PM »
@Cripplecreek

Didn't Bannon also make a complimentary remark about one of the founding fathers, so to speak, of Communism?  I can't remember who it was.  Or am I imagining that?


Plenty here from his own mouth about his love of darkness and power.

Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement" (Exclusive)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747


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I'd rather lose defending the constitution than win at its expense.
Hitlers are born and die every day without notice. Its the morons who put them in power that are dangerous.
You don't escape guilt by declaring that you have no choice.
Lèse-majesté is my middle name

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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 04:08:04 AM »
@Cripplecreek

"And in doing so, we were setting ourselves up for a fall.  Our audiences echoed us.  Outraged and angry.  Ready to set fire to the building but forgetting we still live there.  Reacting to legitimate policy problems with nothing but anger based solely on ideology and ready to do anything to appease our emotions-even if it meant to cut off our nose to spite our face."

Lots of wisdom in that article.  I wish some of the people who are still tearing forward fueled by high-octane anger would check themselves.  It's a terribly sad thing that the conservative movement is no longer based on reason, but on emotion.

It may be a movement, but it isn't conservative. At its root it is the same frothing anger the Liberals have, just directed at anyone who disagrees with 'pragmatism', essentially having rationalized away principle to indulge fury.

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"This inevitably paved the way for the new era of “conservatism.”  One that felt way too comfortable partnering up with bigotry, misogyny, racism.  Also, one that was heartrendingly accepting of moral relativism. "

I've seen people elsewhere saying that they won't condemn Tomi Lahren because hey, she's a good voice for our side.
If someone doesn't represent your beliefs, they can sing it like a nightingale, but it still won't be a good voice for your beliefs. In the meantime the soi disant 'conservatives' are in full swing hijacking the name and the movement if people will let their principles be compromised.
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Re: Take Back Our Mouthpieces: A Return To Intelligent Conservatism
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2017, 04:11:43 AM »
Plenty here from his own mouth about his love of darkness and power.

Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement" (Exclusive)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747
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"Darkness is good," says Bannon, who amid the suits surrounding him at Trump Tower, looks like a graduate student in his T-shirt, open button-down and tatty blue blazer — albeit a 62-year-old graduate student. "Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they" — I believe by "they" he means liberals and the media, already promoting calls for his ouster — "get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing."

Feel the power of the Dark Side, he does.

No wonder so much Alinsky type material was splattered over the GOP this time around.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses. Nehemiah 4:14 (KJV)

About the only "Big" Liberals don't revile is "Big Government"


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