Mark Cuban: Amend U.S. Constitution to Make Healthcare a Right

[Hoodat]

There's quite a difference between the community deciding to create a system of insurance to address income security in old age, and the community deciding to take away the Constitutional rights of disfavored individuals.

Constitutional rights of disfavored individuals?  This ought to be good.  Exactly what Constitutional rights are you referring to here?  Please be specific.

How do you feel about the community taking your guns away? 

Amendment II

What part of "shall not be infringed" are you having difficulty with?

Now who's the hypocrite?   

That would be you due to your selective advocacy of empowering the people to mold and shape their society as they see fit.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Constitutional rights of disfavored individuals?  This ought to be good.  Exactly what Constitutional rights are you referring to here?  Please be specific.

I think @Jazzhead uses the one that says that when it comes to health care: from each according to their means to each according to their needs.

[Jazzhead]

Constitutional rights of disfavored individuals?  This ought to be good.  Exactly what Constitutional rights are you referring to here?  Please be specific.

The Constitutional rights of gays to the equal protection of the law - disfavored by social conservatives

The Constitution rights of women to privacy and self-determination - disfavored by, again, mostly by social conservatives

The Constitutional rights of gun owners - disfavored by brain-dead liberals.   

In each case, my position is consistent -  preserve the right subject to reasonable regulation.   

[Smokin Joe]

The Constitutional rights of gays to the equal protection of the law - disfavored by social conservatives

The Constitution rights of women to privacy and self-determination - disfavored by, again, mostly by social conservatives

The Constitutional rights of gun owners - disfavored by brain-dead liberals.   

In each case, my position is consistent -  preserve the right subject to reasonable regulation.

Only one set of rights there are mentioned in the Constitution, knowing that by "equal protection" you refer to "gay marriage". The reason I say that is a fallacy is that gays had the exact same rights anyone else did. They were free to marry someone of the opposite sex. 

[INVAR]

Our Resident Christian-hating Hedonist and Communist is as always, a demonstration in morbid hypocrisy and failed liberal logic.

[Jazzhead]

Only one set of rights there are mentioned in the Constitution, knowing that by "equal protection" you refer to "gay marriage".

So what?   A Constitutional right can be found by the SCOTUS exercising its power under Article III to interpret the Constitution and apply it to a set of facts.   The abortion right is rooted in the natural and fundamental right to privacy - which the courts have recognized in a variety of contexts for many, many years.   Judge Gorsuch affirmed just yesterday that the Constitution protects the right of privacy.

A woman's right to self-determination is no less valid than a gun-owner's right to keep and bear arms.   Each is protected by the Constitution, and each is subject to reasonable regulation.     
 

[Jazzhead]

Our Resident Christian-hating Hedonist and Communist is as always, a demonstration in morbid hypocrisy and failed liberal logic.

So says our resident purveyor of ignorance and mythology.   

[Idaho_Cowboy]

@INVAR @Jazzhead  Are you folks married? Sheesh. 

[Cyber Liberty]

The Constitutional rights of gun owners - disfavored by brain-dead liberals.   

Are you calling yourself "brain-dead?"  Because you sure as heck don't believe in the Constitutional rights of gun owners, despite the right being clearly enumerated in the Second Amendment.  Last I heard was you were OK with guns, so long as you are free to infringe on the rights of gun owners waltzing around in your neighborhood.

[truth_seeker]

I think @Jazzhead uses the one that says that when it comes to health care: from each according to their means to each according to their needs.

Merely a lawyer that thinks the constitution is a community organizer's handbook, to level out the inequalities of life.

Like Obama, you cite a good outcome for somebody that worked hard, and our member says he was lucky.

[INVAR]

@INVAR @Jazzhead  Are you folks married? Sheesh. 

Jazzhead is simply an enemy of every principle and belief we hold sacred.  He was stupid enough to pick a fight with the wrong person.   His silly little promise to attack my posts as bigoted, intolerant xenophobia every time he saw them on a thread some time back was nothing but an invitation for prolonged warfare AFAIC.

I'm obliging.

I do not suffer bullies, tyrants or liars disguising what they really are in an attempt to beguile and push Leftism upon Conservatives.  That is what Jazzhead is doing here.  He's a Leftie pretending to be something his own words demonstrate he is not.

His ideas, mindset, ideology and perversions are a cancer that need exposure to what they really are and sustained resistance every single time he dumps his crap here.

[Cyber Liberty]

Like Obama, you cite a good outcome for somebody that worked hard, and our member says he was lucky.

I think you put your finger on what many of us find so infuriating.  We believe success comes from hard work and thrift.  After decades of effort, we have the callouses and bank accounts to prove it.  Then some lefty community organizer comes along who wants to separate us from those bank accounts, declaring us "selfish" and "lucky."

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

In a perpetual personal feud, Duelists generally don't menace anyone but each other, unless, of course, another Warrior foolishly gets between them. They may not even remember what started the fight, but not they cordially loathe one another and seize every to go at each other. When the other Warriors eventually weary of their endless kvetching the Duelists will be shouted down or Nanny will ban them. Even after getting the heave-ho from one forum, however, it is not unusual for them to seeking each other in other forums to renew their fight.

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/duelists.htm

Oldie but goodie.  ^-^

[Jazzhead]

I think you put your finger on what many of us find so infuriating.  We believe success comes from hard work and thrift.  After decades of effort, we have the callouses and bank accounts to prove it.  Then some lefty community organizer comes along who wants to separate us from those bank accounts, declaring us "selfish" and "lucky."

You are indeed lucky.   Be thankful, not resentful.   

[Cyber Liberty]

You are indeed lucky.   Be thankful, not resentful.

I just fell into it, huh? 

[EC]

His silly little promise to attack my posts as bigoted, intolerant xenophobia every time he saw them on a thread some time back was nothing but an invitation for prolonged warfare AFAIC.

I'm obliging.

Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. It's more interesting than stamp collecting, I'll give you that.

[Jazzhead]

I just fell into it, huh?

No, I'm sure you worked hard.  But so do millions who work for employers too small or prosperous to offer group health insurance.  They are as virtuous as you.  But not as lucky. 

[Idaho_Cowboy]

No, I'm sure you worked hard.  But so do millions who work for employers too small or prosperous to offer group health insurance.  They are as virtuous as you.  But not as lucky.

So from each according to their luck to each according to their needs? Have I got it down now?

[driftdiver]

No, I'm sure you worked hard.  But so do millions who work for employers too small or prosperous to offer group health insurance.  They are as virtuous as you.  But not as lucky.

@Jazzhead

You can get a small business group plan with 5 people.   There are even plans for groups as small as 2.

[Cyber Liberty]

No, I'm sure you worked hard.  But so do millions who work for employers too small or prosperous to offer group health insurance.  They are as virtuous as you.  But not as lucky.

I see.  Did I ever call anybody "not virtuous?"  You are waving a red herring.  Also, small matter:  I don't usually thank "luck," I thank God for helping me with the hard work and thrift.  "Lucky" is a cop out people use to explain why some people are rewarded in life while others are not.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I see.  Did I ever call anybody "not virtuous?"  You are waving a red herring.  Also, small matter:  I don't usually thank "luck," I thank God for helping me with the hard work and thrift.  "Lucky" is a cop out people use to explain why some people are rewarded in life while others are not.

Which raises the question. Is government out to right the wrongs of God? 

[EC]

Which raises the question. Is government out to right the wrongs of God? 

Report to indoctrination at once!

Government is God.

[INVAR]

Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. It's more interesting than stamp collecting, I'll give you that.

The reason we lost the culture and our liberty is due the fact no one was willing to stand up and put down these insipid Marxist ideas masquerading as compassion and 'rights' when we had a chance to do so when the cost was minimal.

Sadly, a good chunk of folks still think letting that bullshit get spewed without challenge or to coddle it as 'reasonable' is somehow more civil,.  Meanwhile people like Jazzhead deceive everyone into believing they're compassionate fellows while they empower the Beast to strip away your inalienable God-given rights for new rights for hedonists and Socialists that he and his fashion out of thin air.  They are tyrants and need to be treated as such.

The Big Lie gets accepted as truth because no one bothers to challenge it.

Marxism and Statism gets imposed for the same reason.

[Jazzhead]

I see.  Did I ever call anybody "not virtuous?"  You are waving a red herring.  Also, small matter:  I don't usually thank "luck," I thank God for helping me with the hard work and thrift.  "Lucky" is a cop out people use to explain why some people are rewarded in life while others are not.

Tell me how does God choose, just whose prayers he will refuse?

  - Tom Waits

[Cyber Liberty]

Tell me how does God choose, just whose prayers he will refuse?

  - Tom Waits

Beats me.

That information's not available to mortal man.

 - Paul Simon