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Offline TomSea

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« on: March 18, 2017, 08:51:59 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 08:57:39 PM »
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However, there is a way out. China recently floated a North Korean-backed proposal for the US to end their annual military drills with South Korea and, in return, North Korea would stop working on nukes. The US flat out rejected the offer, as they have in the past.

"The onus is on North Korea to take meaningful actions toward denuclearization and refrain from provocations," Mark Toner, the acting spokesman for the State Department, said at a press briefing on Wednesday.

Toner suggested that comparing the US's transparent, planned, defensive, and 40-year-old military drills in South Korea with North Korea's 24 ballistic missile launches in 2016 was a case of "apples to oranges."

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2017, 08:59:46 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2017, 09:02:42 PM »
Barring internal instability in NK I expect things to continue has they have for the last 60 years

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2017, 09:07:41 PM »
So, reasonably conclusive proof that China is wagging NK's missile launches.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2017, 10:41:42 PM »

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You cannot bargain or trust NK or China on this. They also promised not to make nukes back when Clinton was President in exchange for light water reactors that cost a billion or two. A journalist at the time quoted a high-ranking NK official as saying "That's your agreement, not ours."

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 10:51:27 PM »
Tell China to rein in their dog or we'll give SK and Japan nukes. China has used NK as a proxy against us for many decades. The cost of that has been millions of ruined lives in NK and billions of dollars for the US. China has always been the key to all of it.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2017, 02:11:17 AM »
Tell China to rein in their dog or we'll give SK and Japan nukes. China has used NK as a proxy against us for many decades. The cost of that has been millions of ruined lives in NK and billions of dollars for the US. China has always been the key to all of it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2017, 05:53:35 AM »
Barring internal instability in NK I expect things to continue has they have for the last 60 years

Actually I'm more concerned with the instability here...

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2017, 10:23:30 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2017, 12:57:15 PM »
After World War II; I don't know if we want to allow Japan nukes even if that is 75 years ago... BUT, I've heard it said that Japan probably has the technology in place, to assemble such weapons rapidly. Almost as if they are already a semi-nuclear weapons country.

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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2017, 02:09:50 PM »
After World War II; I don't know if we want to allow Japan nukes even if that is 75 years ago... BUT, I've heard it said that Japan probably has the technology in place, to assemble such weapons rapidly. Almost as if they are already a semi-nuclear weapons country.

I read somewhere several years ago that it would take 30 days for the Japanese to assemble several nuke weapons from the time they decided to do it. Probably a bit longer for the South Koreans, but not much.

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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2017, 06:54:13 PM »
I read somewhere several years ago that it would take 30 days for the Japanese to assemble several nuke weapons from the time they decided to do it. Probably a bit longer for the South Koreans, but not much.
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2017, 08:35:55 PM »
I heard tensions have been dialed back, progress is being made. Maybe.


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