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The US is considering 'all options' to stop North Korea — but here's how it will probably go down
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 But defense experts say a military strike against North Korea is unlikely for a number of reasons.

"There is no plausible military option," Jeffrey Lewis, founding publisher of Arms Control Wonk told Business Insider. "To remove the North Korean government is general war."

Because North Korea has missiles hidden all across the country, there's simply no way to quickly and cleanly remove the Kim regime from power or even neutralize the nuclear threat, according to Lewis.

"This is not a case where you're striking a nuclear program in its early stages," said Lewis, who noted that North Korea has been testing nuclear weapons for more than a decade. "The time to do a preemptive attack was like 20 years ago."

Continued: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-us-will-deal-with-north-korea-2017-3

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However, there is a way out. China recently floated a North Korean-backed proposal for the US to end their annual military drills with South Korea and, in return, North Korea would stop working on nukes. The US flat out rejected the offer, as they have in the past.

"The onus is on North Korea to take meaningful actions toward denuclearization and refrain from provocations," Mark Toner, the acting spokesman for the State Department, said at a press briefing on Wednesday.

Toner suggested that comparing the US's transparent, planned, defensive, and 40-year-old military drills in South Korea with North Korea's 24 ballistic missile launches in 2016 was a case of "apples to oranges."

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Barring internal instability in NK I expect things to continue has they have for the last 60 years

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So, reasonably conclusive proof that China is wagging NK's missile launches.
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You cannot bargain or trust NK or China on this. They also promised not to make nukes back when Clinton was President in exchange for light water reactors that cost a billion or two. A journalist at the time quoted a high-ranking NK official as saying "That's your agreement, not ours."

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Tell China to rein in their dog or we'll give SK and Japan nukes. China has used NK as a proxy against us for many decades. The cost of that has been millions of ruined lives in NK and billions of dollars for the US. China has always been the key to all of it.

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Tell China to rein in their dog or we'll give SK and Japan nukes. China has used NK as a proxy against us for many decades. The cost of that has been millions of ruined lives in NK and billions of dollars for the US. China has always been the key to all of it.
IIRC the Mig drivers were Russians, but the ground troops who came across the Yalu were Chinese. Seems everyone was getting in on that one.
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Barring internal instability in NK I expect things to continue has they have for the last 60 years

Actually I'm more concerned with the instability here...

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It looks like that brother, Kim Jong Nam was the best option.

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North Korea tests new type of high-thrust rocket engine

TOKYO -- North Korea has conducted a ground test of a new type of high-thrust rocket engine that leader Kim Jong Un is calling a revolutionary breakthrough for the country’s space program, the North’s state media said Sunday.

Kim attended Saturday’s test at the Sohae launch site, according to the Korean Central News Agency, which said the test was intended to confirm the “new type” of engine’s thrust power and gauge the reliability of its control system and structural safety.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-tests-new-type-high-thrust-rocket-engine/

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Dennis Rodman Says He's Open To Working With President Trump, North Korea On Peace Deal


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The Risks of Pre-emptive Strikes Against North Korea
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/world/asia/us-north-korea-weapons.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

20 years ago was during the Clinton administration.

http://thesouthern.com/news/world/north-asia-on-a-knife-s-edge-whose-position-is/article_af4601b1-eb35-52d6-a1ab-d52138e9b440.html




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Tillerson refuses to rule out nuclearization of Asian allies to keep North Korea in check
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/17/tillerson-refuses-to-rule-out-nuclearization-asian-allies-to-keep-north-korea-in-check.html
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Amid North Korea threat, Tillerson hints that ‘circumstances could evolve’ for a Japanese nuclear arsenal
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/03/19/national/amid-north-korea-threat-tillerson-hints-circumstances-evolve-japanese-nuclear-arsenal/#.WM6wUbj8pVI
So, SK and Japan could get these to counter the threat.

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After World War II; I don't know if we want to allow Japan nukes even if that is 75 years ago... BUT, I've heard it said that Japan probably has the technology in place, to assemble such weapons rapidly. Almost as if they are already a semi-nuclear weapons country.

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After World War II; I don't know if we want to allow Japan nukes even if that is 75 years ago... BUT, I've heard it said that Japan probably has the technology in place, to assemble such weapons rapidly. Almost as if they are already a semi-nuclear weapons country.

I read somewhere several years ago that it would take 30 days for the Japanese to assemble several nuke weapons from the time they decided to do it. Probably a bit longer for the South Koreans, but not much.

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I read somewhere several years ago that it would take 30 days for the Japanese to assemble several nuke weapons from the time they decided to do it. Probably a bit longer for the South Koreans, but not much.
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I heard tensions have been dialed back, progress is being made. Maybe.