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Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
« on: March 11, 2017, 02:38:08 pm »
March 11, 2017
Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
By Daniel John Sobieski

Critics of the border wall proposed by President Trump have said the cost is prohibitive under current budget and economic conditions, that no way is Mexico going to pay for it, and shifting funds away from the TSA, Coast Guard, and FEMA are counterproductive in terms of national security.

These criticisms ignore the costs to the U.S. in terms other than money -- increased crime, overtaxed law enforcement, the drain on public resources such as education, medical care, etc., and the driving down of real wages through an endless supply of cheap labor.

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 04:00:50 pm »
Was pointed out here a few weeks back. Once more, our members are ahead of the curve.  :laugh:
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Re: Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 04:18:14 pm »
The wall may already be paid for, but before the funds may be allocated to a construction company, they will have to be budgeted and appropriated by congress.

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 04:23:24 pm »
The wall may already be paid for, but before the funds may be allocated to a construction company, they will have to be budgeted and appropriated by congress.

Done back in 2006. And if the funds aren't there, someone needs to account for the misappropriation of them.
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Re: Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 04:24:22 pm »
The wall may already be paid for, but before the funds may be allocated to a construction company, they will have to be budgeted and appropriated by congress.

"Trump's" wall was approved when Bush was still president and yes, appropriation was a problem then as it is now.

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 04:31:15 pm »
Done back in 2006. And if the funds aren't there, someone needs to account for the misappropriation of them.
Have a link for how much was appropriated? I don't think it was in the billions and billions.

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Re: Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 04:31:56 pm »
Kind of like how my mortgage is already paid for, I just need to appropriate the funds for it.

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 04:34:14 pm »
Have a link for how much was appropriated? I don't think it was in the billions and billions.

$1.2 Billion. Enough to get it underway, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 08:36:48 pm »
Where’s the Fence? http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/1-main-reason-u-s-border-wall-hasnt-been-built/

However, as WND reported in 2007 then Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, submitted an amendment to the Department of Homeland Security 2008 budget that would effectively gut the Secure Fence Act.

The Hutchison amendment read, in part, “nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location.”

By slipping the amendment into the 2008 DHS funding bill, Hutchison gave DHS total discretion to build a fence or to not build a fence in any particular location.

Hutchinson knew that if then-Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff had discretion on whether or not to build the fence, the Bush administration could always insist that negotiations at the local level along the border, including with Mexico, had resulted in solutions to border security – including cameras, drones, sensors and other technological surveillance measures – that would make the barrier unnecessary.

On Nov. 6, 2007, a DHS fact sheet documented that only 76 miles of a “pedestrian fence” had been built along the Mexican border, making it clear no double-layer barrier had been built.

On Jan. 25, 2008, then-Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., the author of the double-layer fence provisions of the Secure Fence Act of 2008, complained that only five miles of the 75-mile “pedestrian fence” then built was actually double-layer, as specified in the original legislation.

In 2014, Hunter’s son, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., posted on his website an editorial he had published in a San Diego newspaper arguing that the fence specified by his father in the 2006 legislation still needed to be built.

“One of San Diego’s greatest assets is the double-layered border fence that extends inland from the Pacific Ocean,” Hunter wrote. “Fencing and infrastructure alone are by no means enough to stop illegal crossings, but the presence of physical impediments at the border, when supported by manpower and technology, create barriers that make entry increasingly more difficult and sometimes impossible.”

Hunter charged the Obama administration was lying in claiming that border infrastructure needs had been met, arguing that less than 40 miles of double-layered fence had been built along the Mexican border in the eight years that had gone by since the Secure Fence Act had been passed.


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Re: Trump's Wall Is Already Paid For
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 04:25:57 am »
Trump's wall = sad joke.

Don't believe me? Ask your gubbermint why they won't top the wall will razorwire.

(Hint: It's because they don't want anyone getting hurt when they easily scale it.)

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