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The Expanse Isn’t Just Awesome TV—It’s Transforming TV
« on: March 07, 2017, 12:23:57 am »

THE WALKING DEAD , Game of Thrones, Outlander: Some of the best genre fare on TV is based on books. Yet, until relatively recently, most authors had little to do with the development of shows based on their work. Often, studios would option a book, and then try to keep the original author at arm’s length during the production process, says Ty Franck, who along with Daniel Abraham writes the Expanse science-fiction novels under the name James S.A. Corey.


Thanks to HBO’s success with George R.R. Martin’s fantasy saga, though, other networks working on literary adaptations are taking pains to stay true to source material—and even letting the original authors into that most sacred of spaces, the TV writers’ room. Both Franck and Abraham work on Syfy’s The Expanse, and have already written three scripts for the series. Neil Gaiman has penned episodes for the upcoming adaptation of American Gods, and wrote all six installments of the upcoming Amazon series based on Good Omens, the apocalyptic comedy he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett. Patrick Rothfuss is creating new characters and storylines for the Kingkiller Chronicle TV show. In some of Hollywood’s hottest book-to-TV projects, authors are inching into the process. It just took them a while to get there.


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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 12:46:47 am »
The Expanse is the best sci fi we've seen in a long time, maybe the best we've seen because it doesn't happen in a Galaxy far far away long long ago.

No magical artificial gravity or phasers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKWeGXduzs


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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 12:54:32 am »
The Expanse is the best sci fi we've seen in a long time, maybe the best we've seen because it doesn't happen in a Galaxy far far away long long ago.

No magical artificial gravity or phasers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKWeGXduzs


Correct.. The Expanse has raised the bar on what is consider good Sci-Fi..


Babylon 5 - Raised the standard by being different than Star Trek (and better).
Battlestar Galactica (RDM) - Raised the standard more by having a good story
The Expanse - Well they raised it much better.


Shows that was close:


Stargate Univere - SyFy should have never cancelled the show.
Farscape - Showed that much better Aliens

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 12:57:24 am »

Correct.. The Expanse has raised the bar on what is consider good Sci-Fi..


Babylon 5 - Raised the standard by being different than Star Trek (and better).
Battlestar Galactica (RDM) - Raised the standard more by having a good story
The Expanse - Well they raised it much better.


Shows that was close:


Stargate Univere - SyFy should have never cancelled the show.
Farscape - Showed that much better Aliens

Firefly surely rates a mention as well.

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 12:59:33 am »
Firefly surely rates a mention as well.


Correct, Fox should have given that show a chance. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2017, 01:04:36 am »
Firefly surely rates a mention as well.

Nobody noticed Firefly till it was gone.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2017, 01:06:15 am »
BTW, the extended version of the assault.


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Notice those breeching pods are FedEx containers

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2017, 01:09:34 am »
The Expanse is the best sci fi we've seen in a long time, maybe the best we've seen because it doesn't happen in a Galaxy far far away long long ago.

No magical artificial gravity or phasers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKWeGXduzs


Looks cool.

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2017, 06:04:54 am »
The Expanse is the best sci fi we've seen in a long time, maybe the best we've seen because it doesn't happen in a Galaxy far far away long long ago.

No magical artificial gravity or phasers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKWeGXduzs
For once it is nice to see ships maneuver like they aren't in atmosphere flying.
I can't say how many space 'dogfights' I have seen on screen which should have ended with killing the main drive output, a blip of the thrusters flipping the ship, and blasting the guy behind them (While still traveling pretty much along the original vector, just backwards.)
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2017, 03:44:41 pm »
Looks good; I'll have to try it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2017, 03:53:13 pm »
Stargate Univere - SyFy should have never cancelled the show.

On that one we will have to disagree.  It was the point the family and I stopped watching the whole Stargate shows.  I hated having homosexuality pushed on the viewer.  It had no point to the story line other than to push the agenda.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2017, 03:53:29 pm »
For once it is nice to see ships maneuver like they aren't in atmosphere flying.
I can't say how many space 'dogfights' I have seen on screen which should have ended with killing the main drive output, a blip of the thrusters flipping the ship, and blasting the guy behind them (While still traveling pretty much along the original vector, just backwards.)

I also notice they depressurize the ship for battle.

Makes lot of sense. They know they're going to take hits and that would prevent explosive depressurization as well as preventing fire.

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2017, 04:01:08 pm »
On that one we will have to disagree.  It was the point the family and I stopped watching the whole Stargate shows.  I hated having homosexuality pushed on the viewer.  It had no point to the story line other than to push the agenda.


They where pushing at the beginning, however, at the end they stopped it. In fact in the second season they where getting better.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2017, 04:04:28 pm »
I have also found Dark Matter interesting.

The deeper character development only really started when Netflix ran out of episodes, though.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2017, 04:08:38 pm »
They where pushing at the beginning, however, at the end they stopped it. In fact in the second season they where getting better.

I never saw those episodes.  They had already lost me forever.  To be honest, without a likeable character and other problems, it wasn't that hard to give up, after being a avid viewer of the previous series.

I haven't seen the Expanse, TV time is more limited for me these days.  But after the comments here I will give it a try.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2017, 04:10:58 pm »
I have also found Dark Matter interesting.

The deeper character development only really started when Netflix ran out of episodes, though.

Aren't they producing a new season of Dark Matter?

If you liked that one, you would probably like Killjoys.

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2017, 04:38:51 pm »
Aren't they producing a new season of Dark Matter?

If you liked that one, you would probably like Killjoys.
I like both shows. The Expanse, though seems to be written primarily as a sci fi (and well thought out on those points), not just a soap opera wrapped in vacuum.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2017, 04:39:47 pm »
I never saw those episodes.  They had already lost me forever.  To be honest, without a likeable character and other problems, it wasn't that hard to give up, after being a avid viewer of the previous series.

I haven't seen the Expanse, TV time is more limited for me these days.  But after the comments here I will give it a try.
The Expanse is worth it. First season is on Amazon Prime (free with Prime). Check it out.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2017, 04:41:50 pm »
I like both shows. The Expanse, though seems to be written primarily as a sci fi (and well thought out on those points), not just a soap opera wrapped in vacuum.


I tried watching Dark Matter and I just couldn't get into it..


Same with Killjoys..
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2017, 04:42:27 pm »
I hated having homosexuality pushed on the viewer.  It had no point to the story line other than to push the agenda.
That nonessential stuff has ended several shows being viewed here, on the spot.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2017, 04:43:48 pm »

I tried watching Dark Matter and I just couldn't get into it..


Same with Killjoys..
I would not put them in the same class as The Expanse, but when you are starved for space opera...
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2017, 04:48:50 pm »
Sci-Fi Junkie here. 

I give the Expanse a "10" on SFX

and a "5" on Story Line.

all taste I guess.
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2017, 04:51:39 pm »
The Expanse is worth it. First season is on Amazon Prime (free with Prime). Check it out.

Thanks.  I don't watch anything "online" as to a massive restriction on my data due to Satellite only service.
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