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CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« on: February 25, 2017, 08:07:01 pm »
Gateway Pundit
Lucian Wintrich
Feb. 25, 2017

NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland – Once applauded as “burning man meets the super bowl” for conservatives, CPAC in 2017 is far different. After CPAC made the controversial decision to first invite, and then disinvite,  anti-PC conservative firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos, many knew that the atmosphere would be far different. While some of the speakers did include President Trump, Steve Banon, and Mike Pence, those were, by and large, the only highlights of the conference, the schedule of which primarily involved the same slew of #NeverTrump conservatives.

More... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/cpac-2017-terribly-attended-wake-nevertrump-split/


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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 08:09:41 pm »
Trumpbuttpundit is a good example of why conservatives should never trust the populists.

Pure fake news.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 08:10:48 pm »
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While some of the speakers did include President Trump, Steve Banon, and Mike Pence, those were, by and large, the only highlights of the conference,

wow. what a moronic anti-conservative thing to say

CPAC should just be abolished.

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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 09:03:42 pm »
wow. what a moronic anti-conservative thing to say

CPAC should just be abolished.

Or held in Russia.

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 09:12:44 pm »
Are you the voice of Conservatives @geronl ?

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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2017, 02:12:28 pm »
Well, conservative is the first word in CPAC.  And since Trump (backed by his adoring mob) has made it pretty clear that he does not particularly care about anything conservative ("we have to fix the nation's problems first") why should it be a surprise that many ideological i.e. principled conservatives didn't show up?
With His Orangeness as prez it should  be renamed   PPAC (Populist Political Action Group) because whatever he is, Trump ain't no  conservative as we have come to know them.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2017, 02:26:53 pm »
...Trump ain't no  conservative as we have come to know them.


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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2017, 02:39:03 pm »
Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.

From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left. 
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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2017, 02:44:12 pm »
Well, conservative is the first word in CPAC.  And since Trump (backed by his adoring mob) has made it pretty clear that he does not particularly care about anything conservative ("we have to fix the nation's problems first") why should it be a surprise that many ideological i.e. principled conservatives didn't show up?
With His Orangeness as prez it should  be renamed   PPAC (Populist Political Action Group) because whatever he is, Trump ain't no  conservative as we have come to know them.

Trump is not a neoconservative that is true, most of his policies are traditional conservative policies. As opposed to the neoconservative policies of the Bush1 and Bush2. Conservatives of the past used to be very much America First conservatives and insisted migrates assimilated to our culture, adhered to our values and obeyed our laws. Neocons like Democrats could not care less about that.

If fact neocons are really warmongering Democrats that left the democrat party when the democrat party turned in to the anti-war party back in the post LBJ days.

It is nice to see real traditional conservatives back in control of the GOP.

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 02:49:37 pm »
Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.

From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.

Well said.   President Trump is on probation with many old school conservatives.    We respect the victory he achieved but he's still the same bowl o' crazy we all warned about.   What scares me is the combustible combination of Trump's temper and the left's compulsion to goad him to act on it.    This is just not going to end well. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 02:51:32 pm »
Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.

From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.

Getting screwed over by trade cheaters like China and Japan is NOT free trade. Only globalist pigs like our so called "free trade". Back in the day sane republicans/conservatives insisted that trade be fair and benefit both trading countries. All todays' "free trade" does in make the globalist billionaire pigs (vastly) richer and the poor poorer.

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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 03:10:57 pm »
They lost me when they invited Milo. Anyone with a brain knew that was trouble.

I'd like to know how that conversation developed.  Did some millennial convince a bunch of old white dudes running CRAC this was a good idea?

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2017, 03:15:10 pm »
Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.

From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.

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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 03:17:30 pm »
Trump is not a neoconservative that is true, most of his policies are traditional conservative policies. As opposed to the neoconservative policies of the Bush1 and Bush2. Conservatives of the past used to be very much America First conservatives and insisted migrates assimilated to our culture, adhered to our values and obeyed our laws. Neocons like Democrats could not care less about that.

If fact neocons are really warmongering Democrats that left the democrat party when the democrat party turned in to the anti-war party back in the post LBJ days.

It is nice to see real traditional conservatives back in control of the GOP.

Neocons? Really?

Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 03:26:54 pm »
Neocons? Really?

Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?

Trumpers are just a bunch of euro nationalists. Personally I wish they would go to Europe to fight their glorious war there.

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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2017, 03:30:59 pm »
Trumpers are just a bunch of euro nationalists. Personally I wish they would go to Europe to fight their glorious war there.

Or in the interim...

<--- DU is that way
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2017, 03:38:45 pm »
Getting screwed over by trade cheaters like China and Japan is NOT free trade. Only globalist pigs like our so called "free trade". Back in the day sane republicans/conservatives insisted that trade be fair and benefit both trading countries. All todays' "free trade" does in make the globalist billionaire pigs (vastly) richer and the poor poorer.

There is nothing in there with which American socialists like Bernie Sanders might find any cause to disagree.

To begin with, without free trade, the computer you are typing on would cost thousands of dollars, instead of hundreds.

Instead of blaming other countries for our problems, perhaps we might start by reexamining our own economic stupidity, starting with incurring nearly $20 trillion in debt through government overspending, systematically debasing our own currency, and taxing and regulating American businesses to the point where they are virtually compelled to locate their bases of operations in other countries.
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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2017, 03:40:00 pm »
What scares me is the combustible combination of Trump's temper and the left's compulsion to goad him to act on it.    This is just not going to end well.


I wouldn't bet on that temper or his being thin-skinned. Not in New York.

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2017, 04:03:33 pm »
Neocons? Really?

Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?

Do you ever address the content of a post? Neocons are not conservatives!

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Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative-leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1]

ne·o·con·serv·a·tive
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    relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2017, 04:07:55 pm »
There is nothing in there with which American socialists like Bernie Sanders might find any cause to disagree.

To begin with, without free trade, the computer you are typing on would cost thousands of dollars, instead of hundreds.

Instead of blaming other countries for our problems, perhaps we might start by reexamining our own economic stupidity, starting with incurring nearly $20 trillion in debt through government overspending, systematically debasing our own currency, and taxing and regulating American businesses to the point where they are virtually compelled to locate their bases of operations in other countries.

What, then, does history teach?

The economic nationalism and protectionism of Hamilton, Madison, Jackson, and Henry Clay, and the Party of Lincoln, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, and Coolidge, of all four presidents on Mount Rushmore, made America the greatest and most self-sufficient republic in history.

And the free-trade, one-worldism of Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama enabled Communist China to shoulder us aside us and become the world’s No. 1 manufacturing power.


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Re: CPAC 2017: Terribly Attended In The Wake Of #NeverTrump Split
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2017, 04:09:44 pm »
It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons.   First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen.  NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2017, 04:16:15 pm »
It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons.   First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen.  NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?

The neocons are the ones that turned almost the entire Middle East and North Africa into a horrible mess that Trump now has to try and clean up.

Neocons include but are not limited to:George W. Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2017, 04:20:15 pm »
It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons.   First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen.  NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?

Trump's success is completely dependent on his followers ability to self erase their memory from one moment to the next.

They know he's a lying bottom feeding liberal piece of trash, they just don't care because they loves our precious.


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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2017, 04:23:19 pm »
Do you ever address the content of a post? Neocons are not conservatives!

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Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative-leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1]

ne·o·con·serv·a·tive
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    relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.

Perhaps if you wouldn't use Liberal terminology to describe Conservatives the actual subject could be discussed. Instead you're more interested it slinging Alt Right/Stormfront/DU terminology.

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In an article titled "Where do the neocons go from here?" Richard Dunham attempts to explain to a lay audience what a neocon is and where the "movement" is headed. As anyone who's participated in various political and policy struggles inside the Beltway over the past few years can attest, this is no small feat, as the word neocon has meant many things to many people at many different times. It wasn't too long ago, lest we forget, that to be a neocon meant supporting John McCain for president in 2000, which could have led a casual observer to conclude that the "neo" part meant "moderate."

But in the current era, there seems to be a strong tendency to use neocon as a label for someone who strongly supported the war in Iraq or to describe someone who is, well, Jewish. Mr. Dunham's Business Week piece at first only seems to be doing the former. Using neocon interchangeably with "superhawk," he further writes, "The close-knit intellectuals who make up the neoconservative movement have been called extremists, warmongers, American imperialists -- and even a Zionist cabal." Eschewing the traditional news reporting practice of countering criticism with praise, Mr. Dunham allows those shockingly harsh adjectives to go unchallenged.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0503/mowbray.html

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2017, 04:33:42 pm »
But in the current era, there seems to be a strong tendency to use neocon as a label for someone who strongly supported the war in Iraq or to describe someone who is, well, Jewish.

BS article, I gave you the definition of neoconservative, google it all you want. Its' got nothing to do with being Jewish. That is a red herring, just as is saying that anyone opposed to Obamas' policies is a racist or an Uncle Tom. Neocons are defined by the policies they believe in, not their  race or religion.
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