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Ben Shapiro: When the Enemy of Your Enemy Is — Your Enemy
« on: February 22, 2017, 06:28:58 pm »
Ben Shapiro
National Review
February 22, 2017

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Ideas and values should matter more than tribal identity...

Unfortunately, many conservatives have embraced this sort of binary thinking: If it angers the Left, it must be virtuous. Undoubtedly, that's a crude shorthand for political thinking. It means you never have to check the ideas of the speaker, you merely have to check how people respond to him.

That's dangerous. It leads to supporting bad policies and bad men. The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. Sometimes he's your enemy. Sometimes he's just a dude sitting there minding his own business...

The logic of "if he melts snowflakes, he's one of us" actually hands power to the Left, by allowing leftists to define conservatives' friends. It gets to choose whom we support...
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Re: Ben Shapiro: When the Enemy of Your Enemy Is — Your Enemy
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 06:52:04 pm »
Good article, correct premise.

Which is why everyone should wait for actual results before either supporting or condemning.

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Re: Ben Shapiro: When the Enemy of Your Enemy Is — Your Enemy
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 06:55:56 pm »
The left has always allowed the rude, the crude, the socially unacceptable, and even the criminal, to have a voice, as long as it was for "the cause".
If we on the right follow suit, I believe there will no longer be a right to belong to.

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Re: Ben Shapiro: When the Enemy of Your Enemy Is — Your Enemy
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 07:48:14 pm »
The left has always allowed the rude, the crude, the socially unacceptable, and even the criminal, to have a voice, as long as it was for "the cause".
If we on the right follow suit, I believe there will no longer be a right to belong to.

Bingo.

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Trump’s war with the media carried him to the nomination, and from there to the presidency.

In fact, Trump continues to live off of this backward logic. His press conference last week was no ballet of informational expertise
and policy knowledge, nor was it a brilliant recasting of his policy successes. It was a blunderbuss attack on the media, entertaining
in the extreme, occasionally daft, occasionally ridiculous. Yet many on the right immediately concluded that it was the most successful
press conference in world history, not because it was successful with Americans per se — there was no evidence of that — but because
it was a successful assault on the media, who had it coming.

Never mind if Trump lied to the media. They were angry. That showed it worked. Watching Chuck Todd fulminate and Chris Wallace
rage and Don Lemon bemusedly tut-tut scratched conservatives where they itch — and it made Trump a hero.

None of this is to argue that Trump is a leftist or that conservatives are wrong to support many of his policy prescriptions. But if your
standard of right and wrong is whether the Left hates it, you’re making a category error.

It’s not good enough to just be opposed by the Left – you must actually oppose the Left. We must ask what someone is fighting against,
not merely whom. We must ask what tools they’re using — and we must insist they use the truth. Ideas and values matter more than
identity.

But not anymore. The Left’s identity politics is focused on racial, ethnic, and sexual identity — aspects of identity that place you somewhere
in the hierarchy of intersectionality. The Right’s identity politics comes with a label: enemy of the Left. So long as you’re wearing that
button, you’re presumptively on our side and you’re nearly bulletproof.

Until it turns out that you’re not. Until we jump the wrong way because we substituted political laziness for a philosophy. Until we embrace
somebody nasty because the other side hated him or her and stop caring about truth so long as the other side is triggered.

Then we become the bad guys. And that’s a problem.


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Re: Ben Shapiro: When the Enemy of Your Enemy Is — Your Enemy
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 08:23:41 pm »
he wrote what I have been thinking