The Trump-Reagan parallels

[mystery-ak]

The Trump-Reagan parallels

Both were mocked and ridiculed, but relentless assault has unexpected consequences

 By Tammy Bruce - - Wednesday, February 22, 2017

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

The media laugh at any attempt to compare President Trump with former President Ronald Reagan, but there are many similarities, not the least of which are the withering attacks both men endured while running for and as president.

The extraordinary assaults by media, celebrities and jealous politicians against Mr. Trump have been unending. Their attacks include questioning his mental health, comparing him to Hitler (over and over and over again), declaring him a fascist, insisting he’s a modern-day Manchurian candidate, that he’s a traitor (because Russians!), and on and on.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/22/donald-trump-parallels-with-ronald-reagan-should-b/

[TomSea]

[anubias]

There are so many poo-flinging monkeys in this country that it is worrisome as it stirs up those even nuttier.  There was much discussion about Reagan being assassinated back in the day due to his inauguration being on a year that ended with a "0".  Those were dog whistles that Hinckley jumped upon expecting his act to be impressive to Jodie Foster.  Now we have the same sort of innuendo about Trump on a near daily basis as if his presidency is not expected to last the full four years.

[Smokin Joe]

There are so many poo-flinging monkeys in this country that it is worrisome as it stirs up those even nuttier.  There was much discussion about Reagan being assassinated back in the day due to his inauguration being on a year that ended with a "0".  Those were dog whistles that Hinckley jumped upon expecting his act to be impressive to Jodie Foster.  Now we have the same sort of innuendo about Trump on a near daily basis as if his presidency is not expected to last the full four years.

If you recall the Lincoln cents with the Kennedy image stamped on them and the 'amazing facts' sheet http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=3680, I suspect the Ronald Reagan Presidential Dollars will be popping up soon with another face on them...

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Ridiculous.

[r9etb]

Of course, this bit of twaddle leaves off the fact that Reagan was a very successful two-term governor of a large state, who had long had a well-established reputation for understanding and explaining conservative ideas, both in economic and foreign policy realms; and had been a Republican for decades before running for president.  His background, experience, and political acumen were well understood, even if his ideas were antithetical to the sensibilities of the Rockefeller wing of the party.  Besides all that, he was a man of class and optimism.

Trump, on the other hand, is a demagogue with no political background, a very recent Republican history, and no record of conservatism -- much less an understanding of the underlying philosophy.

Other than that, though, yeah -- they're exactly alike.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Plug Reagan was widely liked. Trump is widely disliked.

[r9etb]

Plus Reagan was widely liked. Trump is widely disliked.

Reagan was liked, because he was likeable.  He had a common touch that came from his common roots.  He respected people outside the "elites."

Trump....? 

[thackney]

Of course, this bit of twaddle leaves off the fact that Reagan was a very successful two-term governor of a large state, who had long had a well-established reputation for understanding and explaining conservative ideas, both in economic and foreign policy realms; and had been a Republican for decades before running for president.  His background, experience, and political acumen were well understood, even if his ideas were antithetical to the sensibilities of the Rockefeller wing of the party.  Besides all that, he was a man of class and optimism.

Trump, on the other hand, is a demagogue with no political background, a very recent Republican history, and no record of conservatism -- much less an understanding of the underlying philosophy.

Other than that, though, yeah -- they're exactly alike.

While it doesn't change your point, and I agree with it, in the interest of facts, it was ~6 years after leaving the democrat party that President Reagan first began a run for US President.  It wasn't much of a run in 1968, but he did announce his candidacy.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1894529_1894528_1894518,00.html

[r9etb]

And to press the point a bit more, imagine Trump trying to write and give a commencement address such as Reagan gave at Eureka College, in 1957:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/reagan-eureka/

Looming large in your inheritance is this country, this land America, placed as it is between two great oceans. Those who discovered and pioneered it had to have rare qualities of courage and imagination nor did these qualities stop there. Even the modern-day immigrants have been possessed of courage beyond that of their neighbors. The courage to tear up centuries-old roots and leave their homelands, to come to this land where even the language was strange. Such courage is part of our inheritance, all of us spring from these special people and these qualities have contributed to the make-up of the American personality.

Read it all ... and wonder why there are so few such people in our current political universe.

[r9etb]

While it doesn't change your point, and I agree with it, in the interest of facts, it was ~6 years after leaving the democrat party that President Reagan first began a run for US President.  It wasn't much of a run in 1968, but he did announce his candidacy.

But by that time he'd already been elected governor of California, as a Republican.... And we have to recognize that the Democrat party of the time was in many respects as conservative than the Republican Party of today.

[bolobaby]

Oh. My. God.

Does this graphic really purport to favorably compare the communication styles of Reagan and Trump? Seriously?

[ABX]

Let's correct or put all these in context, one at a time.

1. One would be hard pressed to find a candidate that wasn't mocked or ridiculed before being elected - on both sides.

2. Reagan was a TV celebrity decades prior, Trump was up until running and still acted like it.

3. Reagan was a consistant conservative who left when the Democrats moved left. Trump is a populist who changes based on which way the wind of popularity moved.

4. Just a slogan, shows lack of originality by Trump.  Bill Clinton also used it.

5. We can find many cases of this with Presidential candidates on all sides.

6. There is no comparison between Reagan's straight talk and humor and Trump's use of division and vileness.

7. Non issue.

8. Non issue.

9. Not really an issue, many Presidents succeeded their opposite party.

10-11. Reagan was consistant, Trump has and is all over the board on those issues. Even to this day.

12. Reagan actually ran as a Conservative and was opposed by the moderates. He wasn't accused of not being a Conservative. Trump ran as a populist and was pretty vocal that he wasn't a Conserative. Moderates opposed Reagan. Many Conservatives opposed Trump.

[Frank Cannon]

Plug Reagan was widely liked. Trump is widely disliked.

You're full of shit. Reagan was widely hated by the Left. There were massive protests from the word go, SNL had Joe Piscapo characterizing him as an evil pr*ck, the first 2 or 3 years of his term were rough because the economy was still a shit show, Sam Donaldson was attacking him at every press conference, Leftist GOP'ers like you were still claiming he was not up to the job.  Nutbags were blaming Aids and Crack on Reagan. The unions went ape shit babanas after he fired the Air Traffic Controllers.

I do not see a whole lot of difference between then and now.

[thackney]

2. Reagan was a TV celebrity decades prior, Trump was up until running and still acted like it.

There is that "decades" again.  Reagan was still with GE Theater in 1962, ran for president in 1968.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/timeline/reagan/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Reagan was liked, because he was likeable.  He had a common touch that came from his common roots.  He respected people outside the "elites."   Trump....?

"Forgotten no longer"

[r9etb]

You're full of shit. Reagan was widely hated by the Left.

Sure.  But regular, non-political people had no such compunction.  He was a likeable guy.  Trump, OTOH, relishes being an a-hole.

[Frank Cannon]

Trump, OTOH, relishes being an bleep.

Which regular people like now. In 1981 people still believed the press. Today they hate them. In 1981 people believed the govt' was trying to do good. Today they don't. Trump is a man of his time just like Reagan was a man of his time and Coolidge was a man of his time.

[r9etb]

Trump is a man of his time just like Reagan was a man of his time and Coolidge was a man of his time.

And so was Caligula a man of his time. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Sure.  But regular, non-political people had no such compunction.  He was a likeable guy.  Trump, OTOH, relishes being an a-hole.

Reagan was likeable, Trump is not.


Trump's approval rating is quite low, never got about 50%, I believe.


Wee lil' Frankie doesn't want to believe facts.

[Frank Cannon]

Reagan was likeable, Trump is not.


Trump's approval rating is quite low, never got about 50%, I believe.


Wee lil' Frankie doesn't want to believe facts.

What facts are those? Your crazy DU troll facts?

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/21/president-trump-has-50-percent-approval-rating-in-latest-rasmussen-poll/

Also if you look at these approval polls Trump is doing about average with other new Presidents with their party and independents. Where Trump is having trouble is with Rats. That is a result of the polarized country which no GOP President would have been able to overcome. See: George Soros payed protesters.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trump-is-unpopular-but-not-as-unpopular-as-liberals-think.html

[truth_seeker]

More of the usual predictable OCTD on display here.

Reagan was and remains hated by many, many liberals.

Trumps policies are similar or identical to Reagan's policies.

The main difference is so-called "conservatives" looking right past the policies, and dwelling on personalities.

And overlooking winning, too. Just think, you had Presidents Dole, McCain, Romney who played nice. You could have had President Kasich or Jeb Bush, complete with Billy Kristol support that also played nice.

Reagan and Trump faced massive media opposition. They both kknew it, and used their unique skills to overcome it.

In 1980 Reagan faced John Anderson, Republican at that time, who seems like the equivalent of the type of "Republican" to please some of the #nevertrumpers.

Most of you sound too young to have actually lived as adults during Reagan's Governor terms, when he took on rioting students, in terms you would deem brutish and not delicate and nice, like you want Trump to be.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpg0UfpuUAs

[EasyAce]

Ronald Reagan: Death Valley Days and General Electric Theater
Donaldus Minimus: The Apprentice, Celebrity Apprentice

Reagan: Two television drama classics.
Donaldus: Two television drama-queen fests.

[Oceander]

/snicker

Trump lovers cannot accept their God's clay feet, so they have to build specious comparisons to assuage their feelings of inferiority. 

[Frank Cannon]

/snicker

Trump lovers cannot accept their God's clay feet, so they have to build specious comparisons to assuage their feelings of inferiority.

Yeah, but Donny is President and your man is sitting in his on his lazy ass in his mom's basement running a ponzi scheme.