Author Topic: Can This Presidency Be Saved?...Ross Douthat (Read 2416 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** February 12, 2017, 12:43:56 am »

Can This Presidency Be Saved?
[Ross Douthat]

Ross Douthat FEB. 11, 2017

THE peak of Donald Trump’s presidency, so far and perhaps forever, happened before he became the president. It was the deal he struck with Carrier, the Indiana air-conditioning company, to keep a factory open and jobs in the United States. No moment was so triumphantly Trumpian; nothing has gone as well for him since.

Was the Carrier deal sound economic policy, a sober and restrained use of the presidency’s powers? Not precisely. But it featured Trump following through on his most basic campaign promise: the pledge, delivered in rallies across the country’s stagnant reaches, that he would focus on good-paying jobs for people both parties seemed to have forgotten.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/opinion/sunday/can-this-presidency-be-saved.html?ref=opinion

TomSea · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2017, 02:55:43 am »

Yes, it can be saved. Next question.

Rivergirl · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2017, 02:57:53 am »

To date every so called deal has been nothing but smoke and mirrors. This seems to please those who need to be lied to on a daily basis.
Pity them.

TomSea · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:04:52 am »

I'm sure they'll have problems sleeping at night.

Victoria33 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:06:03 am »

@mystery-ak

No.

Bigun · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:07:33 am »

Like the NY Times is worried about "saving" the Trump presidency! ROFLMAO!!!

r9etb · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:08:27 am »

Quote from: TomSea on February 12, 2017, 02:55:43 am

Yes, it can be saved. Next question.

It can be saved ... if the Trump team can figure out how to act in a planned and disciplined manner. Douhat spells out pretty well what they ought to be focusing on.

It remains to be seen if they can tie down the president's tweeting thumbs and stop saying stupid things.

r9etb · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:09:24 am »

Quote from: Bigun on February 12, 2017, 03:07:33 am

Like the NY Times is worried about "saving" the Trump presidency! ROFLMAO!!!

Did you read the article? It's pretty good.

TomSea · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:11:52 am »

Myst has posted other articles by Ross Douthat. For editorials, the NYT might publish a variety of persons.

skeeter · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:22:04 am »

A couple of thoughts - One, Trump is an insurgent. Who expected him to transition into the job like an insider? Its been less than a month, and the other party has hardly been cooperative. Give him a little time, for *&^ sake.

Two, much of the turbulence he's experienced so far has been amplified all out of proportion by a MSM that he hates, and that clearly hates him. It doesn't help that a good chunk of the GOP hates him as well.

If he succeeds with his immigration initiatives, follows through with health insurance reforms (at least), and reduces federal regulations & taxes to the point we can get more than 2% GDP growth he'll be fine & all this will be so much pillow biting.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:28:14 am »

Suggesting his presidency is already cast in failure mode after just 22 days, is patently ridiculous.

NYT, Douthat is Harvard, replaces Bill Kristol

IOW an Eastern intellectual elite which should delight the leading lights here.

Bigun · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:31:48 am »

Quote from: r9etb on February 12, 2017, 03:09:24 am

Did you read the article? It's pretty good.

Nope! Never made it past the BS headline!

I'll take your word that it's good.

TomSea · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:33:21 am »

JFK had the bay of pigs fiasco but came back on that Cuban missile crisis. Some say he was a bad president; others the opposite, we will see.

Actually, Trump has shown a lot of fight so far; and I heard one lady said she loves it when he takes to twitter.

He's picked a good cabinet;

But I'm glad some folks are so concerned, yes, the headline to Douthat's article is melodramatic; the Washington Post has been horrible in things they published pre-election.

I support Trump, dang rioters on the street trying to slow every thing this admin wants to do.

Not sure about Ukraine, but otherwise, pretty good on everything so far.

endicom · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2017, 03:39:51 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 03:28:14 am

Suggesting his presidency is already cast in failure mode after just 22 days, is patently ridiculous.

Of course it is. Most of what's being written about this fledgling administration is being pulled from nether orifices. As with any administration, they are busy putting together a cabinet while tending to day-to-day affairs.

The talk of chaos could as well have been written of past administrations.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:07:56 am »

Quote from: endicom on February 12, 2017, 03:39:51 am

Most of what's being written about this fledgling administration is being pulled from nether orifices.

That type of #nevertrump story is the lifeblood of this site

In effect it is the "editorial viewpoint"

Bigun · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:17:20 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 04:07:56 am

That type of #nevertrump story is the lifeblood of this site

In effect it is the "editorial viewpoint"

BS! This site allows these stories to be openly and repeatedly challenged! The other one you post at allows no movement from the party line at all!

I prefer this one thank you!

Wingnut · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:18:27 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 04:07:56 am

That type of #nevertrump story is the lifeblood of this site

In effect it is the "editorial viewpoint"

I looked and I saw this topic is in the Opinion and Editorial forum.

That being said. Much like your post, and my comment about your post ...Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one.

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:41:48 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 04:07:56 am

That type of #nevertrump story is the lifeblood of this site

In effect it is the "editorial viewpoint"

You're full of shit. I was a former Donny hater and now like what he is doing. At no time did I feel the place biased either way because there are too many assholes here with their own opinion. This place is the most free form right wing site going.

Wingnut · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:50:37 am »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 12, 2017, 04:41:48 am

You're full of shit. I was a former Donny hater and now like what he is doing. At no time did I feel the place biased either way because there are too many assholes here with their own opinion. This place is the most free form right wing site going.

Damn Straight. TS has had viagra induced hate boner raging for some time against this site. He is a sore winner. He just can't beat it.

Sanguine · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:57:45 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on February 12, 2017, 04:07:56 am

That type of #nevertrump story is the lifeblood of this site

In effect it is the "editorial viewpoint"

Ummmm, you are aware that the writer was not from this site, right?

corbe · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2017, 04:57:47 am »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 12, 2017, 04:41:48 am

You're full of shit. I was a former Donny hater and now like what he is doing. At no time did I feel the place biased either way because there are too many assholes here with their own opinion. This place is the most free form right wing site going.

All this whining lately about Articles or Authors/Publishers is getting old.

I can usually tell by the Title or the link whether I want to be a part of the conversation or Troll someone, I don't whine about the content all my Friends bring to me.