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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #75 on: February 12, 2017, 07:18:58 am »
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2017, 07:28:00 am »

Only when Trump came along, did it essentially become #nevertrump with yet another change of mission, to "political forum," although different places, use different definitions.


A lot of conservatives, mostly Republicans, some freshly abandoning that party, came here because we were either kicked out of or made unwelcome at other sites.
At least some of that contingent of conservatives had no use for Trump because we did not think him conservative enough.
So far he is doing fairly well, and we'll see how that goes, but we remain Conservative, whether we are in support of Trump or not because Conservatism is based on a set of principles, not a person.

But, despite that being pointed out to you, you are still hung up on the # bit. Get over it.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2017, 01:22:21 pm »
Right.  Those same elements from the 60s....like the Weather Underground radicals Bill Ayers, Dorn, etc., have regrouped, renamed and been indoctrinating kids in colleges for five decades.... but they're still at it and up to their old tricks of anarchist behavior.  And they've got a billionaire's $$$ behind them now.  Much more dangerous than they were back then, IMO.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2017, 01:37:55 pm »
The upcoming war is the reason libs are so fervent in getting guns removed from the populace.

It is also the reason the populace wishes to retain them.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2017, 09:10:19 pm »
No, @CatherineofAragon, Ronald Reagan is not a natural choice for a GOP of all stripes.  Ronald Reagan is a Conservative icon.  If this is not a Conservative site, then it would be reasonable to remove Reagan's photo from the masthead.


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Yes, @Right_in_Virginia, Reagan was certainly a conservative.  But he was also a Republican, right?  And one of the most popular, successful presidents in history.  So, I maintain he's the natural choice.

I don't think a banner with the image of Nelson Rockefeller, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, or Gerald Ford would have the same impact, do you?

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« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2017, 09:17:15 pm »
Would you send me those links too, please? I have been at it for a while, but there is much I do not know and I am always open to learning more. Thanks!
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2017, 10:02:19 pm »

Yes, @Right_in_Virginia, Reagan was certainly a conservative.  But he was also a Republican, right?  And one of the most popular, successful presidents in history.  So, I maintain he's the natural choice.

I don't think a banner with the image of Nelson Rockefeller, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, or Gerald Ford would have the same impact, do you?

I think a masthead with Chuck Schumer's picture might better reflect the majority opinion here.  :smokin:




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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2017, 10:06:56 pm »
I think a masthead with Chuck Schumer's picture might better reflect the majority opinion here.  :smokin:




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I have been adamantly opposed to that gun-grabbing, posturing, nauseating sonofabitch for so long I have even considered moving to New York to vote against him. I remembrer that Putz at the Waco hearings. You owe us all an apology, jerk.

You wouldn't understand Reagan on the masthead, because Reagan unified the Republicans, and people like you are hell bent on dividing them, and other Conservatives as well. Which really makes me wonder just what side you are on.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2017, 10:11:30 pm »
Idiot. If your eyes aren't brown, you're a quart low...

This is a personal attack and I ask you to remove it @mystery-ak, @Mod1 @Mod2 @MOD3 @MOD4  @MOD8 8   

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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2017, 10:15:10 pm »
I think a masthead with Chuck Schumer's picture might better reflect the majority opinion here.  :smokin:
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Really?  Well, let's see.

Schumer is pro-abortion, pro-manmade global warming, for higher taxes, believes in income inequality, is pro-gay rights and gay marriage, anti-school choice,  pro-EPA, anti-gun, pro-nationalized healthcare, pro-illegal immigration, and on and on.  For Schumer to be on TBR's banner, a majority of the posters here would have to agree with those positions. 

You want to show some examples of that?

But of course  you can't, and you likely won't respond, as usual.  You derived a moment's pleasure from your post, which was based entirely in emotionalism, and that will do until your next shot.  Or until you find some Trump fan photos to post.

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Re: The second civil war is coming
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2017, 10:19:03 pm »
This is a personal attack and I ask you to remove it @mystery-ak, @Mod1 @Mod2 @MOD3 @MOD4  @MOD8 8
NO, that was nicely stated. A personal attack would be "You are completely full of shit".

Perhaps, if I am to be accused of attacking little ol' you I should be more explicit--Your Chuck Schumer insult would get you bitch-slapped in person, only my wife would do it, because I don't hit wimmen, no matter how low they slink.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2017, 10:21:05 pm »
Thanks Joe for editing your comment.....let's all please calm down.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2017, 10:24:01 pm »

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Really?  Well, let's see.

Yes, really @CatherineofAragon  Schumer is obsessively anti-Trump, as are so many on this forum.  I wouldn't be surprised if some have his photo on their mantle and mail him cash contributions to help him keep up the good work.   :shrug:

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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2017, 10:26:46 pm »
A personal attack would be "You are completely full of shit".

So, I can call you stupid or an idiot and you won't be insulted @Smokin Joe

Good to know.   888blackhat





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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2017, 10:29:54 pm »
Agreed. Scoped rifle, good binoculars, long distance is the next best thing to being there. Sometimes you can see more from further away, and in the past a single shot has made a difference. If it comes to that and I can get three before they get me, it's a good start.

The push and pull of front line combat is mainly the province of younger men, and at this point I'm not sure I could get back into the same shape I was in in my early 20s.

None of us could do that, I'm afraid.   But in every war, there are combatants that do what they can....which is better than doing nothing.   And I suspect that.... the pent up anger and frustration, over these past decades, should act as a sort of adrenaline rush to help many keep up.  And never underestimate the power of adrenaline.  For some of us that haven't felt that rush in decades.... it could kill us! lolol
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2017, 10:31:47 pm »
So, I can call you stupid or an idiot and you won't be insulted @Smokin Joe

Good to know.   888blackhat
I'll consider the source and ignore it, bless your heart.

 But propose Schumer for the masthead (call us all traitors), and that's a bit much.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2017, 10:32:32 pm »
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Lmao

Lmao, indeed.  I'll bet the mods here just love her. 
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2017, 10:35:28 pm »
I'll consider the source and ignore it, bless your heart.

But propose Schumer for the masthead (call us all traitors), and that's a bit much.

Maybe it's a cry for help?  Prayers are definitely needed, apparently.  A miscall like that could mean something seriously physically awry.  Either that.... or somebody got up on the wrong side of the stall.... :silly:
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« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2017, 10:37:10 pm »

Yes, @Right_in_Virginia, Reagan was certainly a conservative.  But he was also a Republican, right?  And one of the most popular, successful presidents in history.  So, I maintain he's the natural choice.

I don't think a banner with the image of Nelson Rockefeller, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, or Gerald Ford would have the same impact, do you?

I'm pretty sure at this point in time - with Trump winning a decisive Electoral victory, and choosing conservative people to fill key gov't positions - along with his promises on a border wall and illegal immigration - that Reagan would be supportive of President Trump right now, at this point in time. 

I do not think Ronald Reagan would like, or approve of the garbage I see on here all too frequently - citing outright fake news against the President and his family, of using Leftist media sources to continue to deride and tear down our Republican President, who now has a GOP Congress to work with. 

In fact, I would LOVE to hear President Ronald Reagan's opinion on some of these threads and the insults they contain to our Republican President.  Even most of Trump's opponents have turned to supporting our President.  Reagan would have no patience with this "resistance" movement that is all too predominant here.

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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2017, 10:39:18 pm »
None of us could do that, I'm afraid.   But in every war, there are combatants that do what they can....which is better than doing nothing.   And I suspect that.... the pent up anger and frustration, over these past decades, should act as a sort of adrenaline rush to help many keep up.  And never underestimate the power of adrenaline.  For some of us that haven't felt that rush in decades.... it could kill us! lolol
If you consider the 'three for me' idea, that could have a serious affect, especially with accurate long distance fire.

If you don't have the tactical mobility of your adversary, rely on stealth, distance, cunning, your knowledge of the terrain and the area, and keep them at arm's length or further rather than let them in close. Don't play to their advantages, play to yours. Blend in. Be invisible in plain sight.

The atrocities which inevitably follow will strengthen the resolve of others, it's how we Americans are wired. The adversary will lose.

An army of active grandkids (and great-grandkids) keep that adrenaline rush not so far away. Under that influence I can move like I did in my 20s, I just can't move that fast or lift that much all day like I could then.
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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2017, 10:44:34 pm »
But propose Schumer for the masthead (call us all traitors), and that's a bit much.

"Traitor" is YOUR interpretation, YOUR word, not mine.  Although in all candor, I do find it a fascinating choice of words @Smokin Joe   :pondering:


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« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2017, 11:12:57 pm »
I think a masthead with Chuck Schumer's picture might better reflect the majority opinion here.  :smokin:




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Whoa!  Just a TAD over the top there I would say. 

There is a loud minority here for whom nothing president Trump ever does will be sufficient.  But they are definately a minority rather than a majority.
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« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2017, 11:19:50 pm »
Whoa!  Just a TAD over the top there I would say. 

There is a loud minority here for whom nothing president Trump ever does will be sufficient.  But they are definately a minority rather than a majority.

And none of them is a liberal.

The people here who oppose Trump, for the most part, do so because HE is liberal, not THEY.

The criticism of the Trump faithful that those who oppose him are liberals is a bunch of garbage.
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Re: The second civil war is coming
« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2017, 11:19:55 pm »
"Traitor" is YOUR interpretation, YOUR word, not mine.  Although in all candor, I do find it a fascinating choice of words @Smokin Joe   :pondering:
If you find it fascinating, If you find Schumer acceptable, if YOU want him on the masthead, might I suggest you'd feel more at home at DU, where you can snipe at conservatives all day.
Anyone who swears an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and makes a career of  striving to infringe the Constitutional Rights of decent and law-abiding Americans has not only violated that oath, but when called on it continued to do so. That makes him a Traitor in my book.
Of course, those in sympathy with him might not see it that way, and it was YOUR suggestion.

Those of us who did not support Trump here did not do so because of his Liberal Past (and donations to people like...Chuck Schumer.)
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