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The second civil war is coming
« on: February 11, 2017, 03:14:30 pm »
February 11, 2017
The second civil war is coming
By Robert Arvay

Wars begin when, in a major crisis, no peaceful solution can be found.  We are at or near that point.

The political left considers us irremediably evil and dangerous.  Thusly do they justify engaging in violence, sending their version of "Brown Shirts" onto college campuses to prevent our side from even speaking.  It's Kristallnacht 2017.

Their ministries of propaganda (otherwise known as the mainstream news media) are working full steam ahead, vilifying us and lying about every action President Trump takes.  Their armies of lawyers are clearly intending to clog up the courts with so many lawsuits and other legal tactics as to paralyze the Trump administration from achieving anything.  The left will yield nothing, not so much as an inch of ground, without political bloodshed.

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 03:20:57 pm »
A lot of Trumpers seem to be chomping at the bit for a civil war, too.

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 03:21:57 pm »
A lot of Trumpers seem to be chomping at the bit for a civil war, too.

If I were them, I wouldn't be too confident of a win.

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 03:34:43 pm »
I'm 71 and The Next Civil War has been coming for as long as I can remember.

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 03:39:19 pm »
I'm 71 and The Next Civil War has been coming for as long as I can remember.

I'm 52 and I know it would be a disaster for all of us no matter who won.

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 03:40:06 pm »
I'm 52 and I know it would be a disaster for all of us no matter who won.

Aye.

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 03:53:41 pm »
I'm 71 and The Next Civil War has been coming for as long as I can remember.

You only have 20 years on me and I have to agree with you 100%.  The left has been pushing as hard as they can just shy of open warfare for years.  They have been trying the boiled frog method of implementing their agenda.  Only there are a lot of people who are fed up with their BS now.  Should be an interesting next 4 or 8 years.

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 03:56:22 pm »
I'm 52 and I know it would be a disaster for all of us no matter who won.

It absolutely would. I've spent my lifetime creating a pretty comfortable situation for my family and I right now and all of that goes away if widespread fighting does break out.

But how can it be avoided?

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 04:32:31 pm »
A lot armchair freeper types would probably die of heart attacks if they tried fighting in Civil War II.


IM GONNA GRAB MY MUSKEY BUT FIRST I NEED MY BLOOD PRESSURE PILLS AND DIABETES MEDICATION.

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 04:36:47 pm »
Coming my @$$!  SOME of us have been fighting the damned thing for 40 years or more!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 04:39:21 pm »
A lot armchair freeper types would probably die of heart attacks if they tried fighting in Civil War II.


IM GONNA GRAB MY MUSKEY BUT FIRST I NEED MY BLOOD PRESSURE PILLS AND DIABETES MEDICATION.

Medications would be about the 3rd thing to disappear right when they're needed the most right after the power goes out and sanitation systems stop working.

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 04:45:51 pm »
Medications would be about the 3rd thing to disappear right when they're needed the most right after the power goes out and sanitation systems stop working.

Well then, by all means, tell us worthless old farts what can be done to stop it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2017, 04:55:26 pm »
I'm 71 and The Next Civil War has been coming for as long as I can remember.

Right there with you......   But to tell you the truth, it's exciting to be alive to see it happen....at 71.   

It also why I've always believed Donald Trump was the Right Stuff for the times ahead.

Who wouldn't want to be in same fox hole with him?   
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 05:01:37 pm »
I remember hearing this from my father when I was five years old.  That was a half century ago.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2017, 05:02:45 pm »
Medications would be about the 3rd thing to disappear right when they're needed the most right after the power goes out and sanitation systems stop working.

I don't take medications.... and thanks to the internet preppers, I now know how to dig/construct an outdoor latrine.  Even have rattan fencing for privacy.  The only thing I worry about running out of is pet food in a crisis.  Guess I need to learn how to hunt/trap small game.  As for going without power, our ancestors survived quite well without electricity.  We could learn to cope, as well.  We could use all that spare time (not on the internet or watching tv) for target practice.

No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 05:09:42 pm »
I remember hearing this from my father when I was five years old.  That was a half century ago.

That would put your dad's comments in the late 60s. With the assassinations & riots back then I can understand why it would've looked that way.

Those same elements that caused upheaval then and have been in charge for awhile are seeing their grasp on power slipping. So we'll see how it plays out.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 05:16:40 pm »
That would put your dad's comments in the late 60s. With the assassinations & riots back then I can understand why it would've looked that way.

Those same elements that caused upheaval then and have been in charge for awhile are seeing their grasp on power slipping. So we'll see how it plays out.

Right.  Those same elements from the 60s....like the Weather Underground radicals Bill Ayers, Dorn, etc., have regrouped, renamed and been indoctrinating kids in colleges for five decades.... but they're still at it and up to their old tricks of anarchist behavior.  And they've got a billionaire's $$$ behind them now.  Much more dangerous than they were back then, IMO.

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 05:18:28 pm »
Right.  Those same elements from the 60s....like the Weather Underground radicals Bill Ayers, Dorn, etc., have regrouped, renamed and been indoctrinating kids in colleges for five decades.... but they're still at it and up to their old tricks of anarchist behavior.  And they've got a billionaire's $$$ behind them now.  Much more dangerous than they were back then, IMO.

Right again!   :beer:
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 05:26:34 pm »
Right.  Those same elements from the 60s....like the Weather Underground radicals Bill Ayers, Dorn, etc., have regrouped, renamed and been indoctrinating kids in colleges for five decades.... but they're still at it and up to their old tricks of anarchist behavior.  And they've got a billionaire's $$$ behind them now.  Much more dangerous than they were back then, IMO.

They're the same characters.

Historically, there're very few examples of the totalitarian statist mindset ceding power peacefully. Its just a fact.



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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2017, 05:32:30 pm »
They're the same characters.

Historically, there're very few examples of the totalitarian statist mindset ceding power peacefully. Its just a fact.

Methinks that the US version of that totalitarian statist mindset has a very rude awakening coming for them if they plan to start another civil war.  I know a lot of Texas good ole boys that are chomping at the bit to teach them that well-deserved lesson, in fact.   :laugh:
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 06:08:45 pm »
I'm 71 and The Next Civil War has been coming for as long as I can remember.

What has changed since the reign of Obama, is the reality and fact that we can no longer peaceably co-exist in the same country together with all the divisions that have been sown among us for the better part of 50 years.

And there is NO bringing them together, because the foundational bedrock and core that kept us a body politick has been dug up and discarded by more than half the population.

War, terror and/or mass unrest and bloodshed at this point is a certainty, the split second pushback gets real - there is no putting that genie back in the bottle.

We have become France in the 1790s, and it is a bloodbath that is brewing not a 'revolution'.  It's being instigated by Leftists and cheered for by a bunch of ignorant morons who played too much Call of Duty and chomping at the bit for meat-world payback.  All the ingredients are there for something worse than what Robspierre instigated.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 06:10:32 pm »
It absolutely would. I've spent my lifetime creating a pretty comfortable situation for my family and I right now and all of that goes away if widespread fighting does break out.
But how can it be avoided?
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Due to being in a hurricane path, I became a prepper so I didn't have to panic to get preps when the next one came.  I went from that to preparing for any emergency, including war in any way taking away my ability to live well.  Unless soldiers come in my house and I die in a gun battle, I am safe for years living well.  Every Christmas, I give prepper gifts to family members as they have made no preps on their own.  I also have more preps than I need so if they show up on the doorstep, I will have "stuff" to keep them alive.

I call my prepper stuff, "Life Insurance."  I don't trust the government to do jack to save my life.  You and I have paid for the "greatest" prep on earth.  If something happens, the president and his family go underground with all they need already there, including a surgeon and operating room.  In my opinion, I am as important as a president, so I paid my own money for his and for mine.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 07:19:14 pm »
War is a young man's game.

If you aren't young, you aren't going to fight.  And if you try, you'll be easily killed.

Therefore, no civil war.

That makes no sense.

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2017, 07:26:26 pm »
How so?

I fail to see the relevance to my question.

Are you saying that everyone opposed to the manner in which the left is seeking to usurp power is too old to resist?

Or are you just demeaning people on this board as being old?
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2017, 07:27:26 pm »
War is a young man's game.

If you aren't young, you aren't going to fight.  And if you try, you'll be easily killed.

Therefore, no civil war.

Since when?  War, when it becomes necessary or a reality, is an everyman's game....and the next one will include women, as well.   As long as you're physically able to pull a trigger, you're fit to fight.  Even if you only can manage to take one of the enemy down with you, it will be 'worth it' to most fighting that war.
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