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Forget for a moment who was inaugurated today. (And try your best to forget all the hoopla, pomp, circumstance,
and extravagance that's turned presidential inaugurations, little by little over a couple of centuries, into coronations
of elected monarchs. Now you know why I haven't watched one inauguration in my lifetime. The inauguree, if that
sounds right, is purely coincidental. Though when I saw photos of Barack Obama in front of those faux Greco-Roman
columns I thought, oh, sh@t, now they're actually admitting what they're up to!)

There's a lot of people out there (and around here, for that matter) who think we absitively, posolutely will not
survive whatever it is the Donaldus Minimus presidency has in store for us. Well, guess what, folks. It wasn't easy,
but America has one helluva survival record. It only began with getting an actual, honest to God Constitution out of
the scrum known as the constitutional convention. How many countries can you think of that could, never mind
would, survive some of what we've survived:

* Alien and sedition acts.
* The War of 1812.
* Civil wars.
* World wars.
* Reconstruction.
* Tammany Hall.
* That blowhard Theodore Roosevelt.
* That buttinski Woodrow Wilson.
* The Black Sox.
* Prohibition.
* Flagpole sitting.
* The Great Depression.
* The New Deal.
* Goldfish swallowing.
* Bauhaus architecture.
* Kilroy.
* "Mairzy Doats."
* The television set.
* Truth or Consequences. (Though, admittedly, some of it was pretty hilarious.)
* The Bomb. (With and without Dr. Strangelove.)
* The Korean War.
* J. Fred Muggs. (And, his once-removed obnoxious black-sheep cousin, Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp.)
* John Cameron (Let's go hopscotching the world for headlines!) Swayze.
* Bermuda shorts.
* The quiz show scandals.
* The hula hoop.
* The Twist.
* Chatty Cathy.
* Candlestick Park.
* Metrecal.
* The Beverly Hillbillies and its obnoxious spinoff Petticoat Junction. (Though when the latter's Kate
Bradley did "Mairzy Doats" as a beatnik poem reading it over bongos in a coffee house it was a) funnier than
hell, and b) exactly what that song deserved!)
* The Daley machine.
* Camelot.
* Vietnam.
* My Mother, the Car.
* Eight-track tapes.
* Watergate. (And all the other -gates.)
* The Brady Bunch.
* The Partridge Family.
* AstroTurf.
* The designated hitter.
* Charlie Finley.
* The Perils of Penelope Pitstop. (Even if Paul Lynde was a crackup as her nemesis the Hooded Claw.)
* The AMC Pacer and Gremlin.
* The ForChevAmChrysWagen.
* The Exorcist.
* The pet rock.
* Jaws.
* Disco.
* Leisure suits.
* Josie and the Pussycats.
* Designer jeans.
* Kiss.
* The Cabbage Patch Kids.
* The Scarsdale Diet.
* The Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on Elm Street franchises.
* The film version of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
* That ridiculous innuendo that finally compelled Procter & Gamble to say we surrender instead of
up yours and change its venerable logo.
* Pink Lady & Jeff.
* Toga parties. (Though one of the earliest ones was said to have been thrown by Eleanor Roosevelt, decades before
anyone ever heard of Animal House---and it was said to be a zap at her husband's Caesarian image.)
* The uniforms of the 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates (they looked like a cheap beer league team even while winning the World
Series) and the late 70s/early 80s Houston Astros.
* The Chicago White Sox's turn-of-the-century-with-Bermuda-shorts uniform experiment. (Who could blame Chris Sale for
taking a razor to the replica jerseys last season?)
* Jimmy Carter.
* Billy Carter.
* Dallas.
* Dynasty.
* The NFL.
* Especially the Super Bowl.
* ABSCAM.
* George Steinbrenner.
* The Ron Popeil pocket fisherman.
* The salad shooter.
* Big Mouth Billy Bass.
* Elvis impersonators.
* "The heavy mental music that goes over big at the Hitler Youth rallies." (So said David Johansen, former lead singer of
the New York Dolls, about why he abandoned his first solo career---in which he established himself as one helluva blue-
eyed soul singer melding hard rock and R&B---in favour of becoming Buster Poindexter for a long enough spell.)
* Heaven's Gate. (The film and the doomsday cult.)
* The Yippies.
* The Yuppies.
* The Pound Puppies.
* Hush Puppies.
* The Earth Shoe.
* Tree hugging.
* The spotted owl.
* The snail darter.
* The fairy shrimp.
* PETA.
* Iran-Contra.
* The Bushes and the Clintons.
* Pete Rose.
* Bud Selig.
* Tonya Harding.
* Wrestling, actual and alleged.
* O.J. Simpson.
* The Kardashians. (OK, admittedly, compared to them it's easier to make the cockroach extinct.)
* Pogs.
* The smartphone.
* The Smart Car.
* The Hummer.
* The Pontiac Aztek. (We survived, but Pontiac didn't.)
* The fall of the house of Oldsmobile.
* Y2K.
* 9/11.
* 90210.
* The 2002 All-Star Game.
* Honey Boo Boo (and every other example of "reality" television).
* Brangelina.
* Barack Obama.

Come on. Any nation that can survive even a third of all that can survive anything. (Even if we're more likely to go to
the medicine cabinet rather than to war over a lot of it.) Because according to that evidence it's got the strongest national
stomach on the planet.
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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 09:30:03 pm »
We may have survived, but each of those events changed our trajectory.  Some for better, many for worse.

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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 09:32:48 pm »
Ye missed hula hoops and drum circles.  :tongue2:
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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 09:38:57 pm »
Ye missed hula hoops and drum circles.  :tongue2:

The hula hoop is there.

I did forget about the crop circles, though.


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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 09:53:13 pm »
We may have survived, but each of those events changed our trajectory.  Some for better, many for worse.
Private conversation with a 25 year old gal in the office this morning. She is white, lower income middle class. But not low enough to get loans or aid. She still has professional career aspirations. Hard worker, to the max.

She is hopeful the change will make things brighter for her generation, who have struggled with a crappy economy, divisive policies (overemphasis on diversity).

She feels Obama has clearly favored minorities, at the expense of her kind. Political correctness has made her generations reluctant to say the slightest thing.

Finally, as far as I can tell, she is not a Nazi, not a fascist, not a racist, not a Russian troll.

But like me, she is thrilled to have the White House back in good hands.

*listening to live video. bleep NBC reporter screaming at Pence, trying to make a joke.


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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 09:56:25 pm »
The political climate in this country is as nasty as ever. We can survive the Donald, but I dunno about the division in the country.

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 10:07:06 pm »
Private conversation with a 25 year old gal in the office this morning. She is white, lower income middle class. But not low enough to get loans or aid. She still has professional career aspirations. Hard worker, to the max.

She is hopeful the change will make things brighter for her generation, who have struggled with a crappy economy, divisive policies (overemphasis on diversity).

She feels Obama has clearly favored minorities, at the expense of her kind. Political correctness has made her generations reluctant to say the slightest thing.

Finally, as far as I can tell, she is not a Nazi, not a fascist, not a racist, not a Russian troll.

But like me, she is thrilled to have the White House back in good hands.

*listening to live video. bleep NBC reporter screaming at Pence, trying to make a joke.

As I've said before, I hope you're right about the good hands.  It remains to be seen, but at least now that the inauguration is over we will start seeing exactly what he is made of.

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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2017, 10:09:59 pm »
We may have survived, but each of those events changed our trajectory.  Some for better, many for worse.

You totally correct and we haven't felt the full effects of Cabbage Patch dolls yet either.

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2017, 10:11:02 pm »
You totally correct and we haven't felt the full effects of Cabbage Patch dolls yet either.

Definitely a course change for the worse.

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2017, 10:30:42 pm »
The hula hoop is there.


My bad. Think the combination of head shaking and eye-rolling by that point made me miss it.  :laugh:
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2017, 10:43:46 pm »
My bad. Think the combination of head shaking and eye-rolling by that point made me miss it.  :laugh:

Now, how could I possibly ignore the hula hoop on a list like that? It'd be like forgetting . . . well,
everything else on the list! ;) (Though I also forgot to mention Billy Beer . . .)


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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2017, 11:05:00 pm »
The political climate in this country is as nasty as ever. We can survive the Donald, but I dunno about the division in the country.

Exactly.

Events we can survive.  A debased, indifferent, wicked and self-absorbed populace and citizenry - we cannot.

The Founders gave us enough warning about that, and so does scripture and history. 

It has already become apparent that the greater population WANTS Socialism/Collectivism and every other 'ism out there to take care of them and provide what they demand.

The kind of liberty we were bequeathed with is extra fragile and cannot exist or survive a populace without the kind of foundation and morals we were once governed by.

What we had and what we were cannot work elsewhere in the world.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2017, 11:21:38 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure link=topic=244721.msg1196987#msg1196987 date=148494938  We can survive the Donald...
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I seriously doubt it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 11:47:52 pm »
Just saw Facebook from my 23 yr. old 1st year medical school niece. She posted:

"So excited to see what happens these next four years. Great speech, great man."

Very very smart young gal, who finished a science major in 3 years, undergrad.

Not all young people, are the losers we see featured on the media, destroying others' property.
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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2017, 12:01:31 am »
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/193984-revell-h1385-billy-carter-s-redneck-power-pick-up

I remember this kit well, for some reason.

I do, too.

I guess file it under the heading of "You think of the damnedest things, sometimes." Such as model kits like . . .







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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2017, 12:03:16 am »
The question in my mind is how far to the left Trump will move the country. I once thought conservatism would always prevail because it was based on logic and an abiding faith in the US Constitution. Unfortunately this election has shown that "conservatives" are just as driven by emotion as those on the left.
There are many who will blindly follow Trump without regard to the principles this country was founded on. We will survive no doubt, but I seriously doubt we will survive as a Conservative nation....

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2017, 12:21:46 am »
Just saw Facebook from my 23 yr. old 1st year medical school niece. She posted:

"So excited to see what happens these next four years. Great speech, great man."

Very very smart young gal, who finished a science major in 3 years, undergrad.

Not all young people, are the losers we see featured on the media, destroying others' property.
Far from it. Most of the young people I know have been screwed over by liberals already, in one way or another--and there is a long list of ways.
They aren't losers, but they are suffering from the same perceptual problem white men in particular have been slapped with, a problem of perception.
The popular media, especially television, are overrun with stereotypes of incapable and incompetent Caucasian males, cowed by and outclassed by brilliant (pick an aggrieved group, or two), and berated as the source of all the evils in the world.

I'm not a racist, but that crap should stop because it is seriously damaging to the self image of a lot of young people who have been fed it by television and ridiculous history classes their entire life. It is messing up a lot of kids, especially the ones who think what they see on teevee is anywhere close to reality.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2017, 12:25:06 am »
The question in my mind is how far to the left Trump will move the country. I once thought conservatism would always prevail because it was based on logic and an abiding faith in the US Constitution. Unfortunately this election has shown that "conservatives" are just as driven by emotion as those on the left.
There are many who will blindly follow Trump without regard to the principles this country was founded on. We will survive no doubt, but I seriously doubt we will survive as a Conservative nation....

Exactly and Amen.

My whole motivation for posting on this board the last several months.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2017, 12:27:47 am »
The question in my mind is how far to the left Trump will move the country. I once thought conservatism would always prevail because it was based on logic and an abiding faith in the US Constitution. Unfortunately this election has shown that "conservatives" are just as driven by emotion as those on the left.
There are many who will blindly follow Trump without regard to the principles this country was founded on. We will survive no doubt, but I seriously doubt we will survive as a Conservative nation....
We haven't survived as a Conservative nation. Given that "Conservatism" is a set of principles, it isn't defined so much by those who claim to be, as those people are defined by their adherence to those principles. I must confess I, too, grossly overestimated the numbers of people I thought would be logical, work within the framework of principle, and who almost changed the course of events, but Conservatism, and conservative principles did not prevail over the well fanned flames of anger and resentment. Those emotions only exposed those who did not necessarily place principle first, and those who voted out of desperation to keep the only worse candidate from office.

Unfortunately, in the words of Walt Kelly, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

I pray, that in his eagerness to establish himself as the 'greatest', our new POTUS adheres to principle over mere perception, for the latter is easily enough manipulated. We'll see.
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Re: It Wasn't Easy, But We've Survived Before---and We'll Survive Again
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2017, 12:53:44 am »
Not all young people, are the losers we see featured on the media, destroying others' property.

That's been true for as long as there have been young generations. They never all fit particular stereotypes
or fads. And they never all will, for which we can be grateful.


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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2017, 01:17:26 am »
Exactly.

Events we can survive.  A debased, indifferent, wicked and self-absorbed populace and citizenry - we cannot.

The Founders gave us enough warning about that, and so does scripture and history. 

It has already become apparent that the greater population WANTS Socialism/Collectivism and every other 'ism out there to take care of them and provide what they demand.

The kind of liberty we were bequeathed with is extra fragile and cannot exist or survive a populace without the kind of foundation and morals we were once governed by.

What we had and what we were cannot work elsewhere in the world.

Well said.

WE, the Free Sovereign Citizens of the United States, survived.  We are no longer either free or sovereign; we are in fact serfs - and a majority of alleged citizens are okay with that.

Now that government, in the hands of Elites, has been unleashed...the nation is following the trajectory of all failed nation-states.  Fiat currency, and deliberate debasement.  Reckless, constantly-increased sovereign debt.  An elite Ruling Class completely detached from the average person - and contemptuous of the average person, willing to see widespread pain and death for pet emotional projects and targets (i.e., Glow Ball Warming).

Organized industry and commerce are now sputtering; we're getting by on Bread and Circuses paid for by printing fiat.  That - it goes without saying - is unsustainable.

We would never have gotten to this place had the Constitutional checks been kept in place; and those checks would never have been breached if the public had not tried to remain, in Jefferson's words, "Ignorant and Free."  It's a state of existence that has never been.

Ignorance can only be rectified with a focused, all-encompassing, deliberate onslaught.  Loss of freedom happens almost automatically once the conditions are set for it. 

So we are not free and will not survive what has been put in front of it.

Those who oppose State Secession as a path to forming a More Perfect Union, of Americans who still want to preserve American Principles without the liberal sumps that are waging war on us...those persons need to reconsider, and fast.  There is little time.