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« on: January 16, 2017, 02:54:47 pm »
Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’

January 16, 2017| by Brian Anderson

For the longest time Obama refused to use Donald Trump’s name, perhaps fearing it was some sort of evil incantation. A Church in California has picked up on this idea and will not allow Trump’s name to be used in any prayers. Their reasoning is that the President-elect’s name is a “trauma trigger” (whatever the hell that is) and is damaging to the congregation.

The rector for the All Saints Church in Pasadena, CA issued new guidelines for prayer in a blog post. While in the past the church has prayed for Barack Obama by name, from this point forward any prayers for the leader of the country will be for the title only. Instead of praying for Donald Trump specifically and by name, the prayer will henceforth be simply for “the president.”

The reason for this is particularly insane:

http://downtrend.com/71superb/church-bans-trumps-name-because-its-a-trauma-trigger
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2017, 02:57:28 pm »
The rector of the church is proving why the word Christianity has become a "trigger" for so many people.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 03:00:42 pm »
So what's the denomination?  Episcopal, or Presbyterian?  Whichever, they're certainly no longer Christian.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 03:01:48 pm »
This church sounds more like a university faculty lounge than a house of worship.

Is there any place the left hasn't corrupted?

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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2017, 03:10:44 pm »
Tax the Hell out of this "Church".
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2017, 04:02:20 pm »
Erick Erickson ‏@EWErickson  2h2 hours ago
Geez.  If Trump is a “trauma trigger,” I bet this church never mentions hell and Satan.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2017, 04:08:38 pm »
Quote from: Doug Loss on January 16, 2017, 03:00:42 pm
So what's the denomination?  Episcopal, or Presbyterian?  Whichever, they're certainly no longer Christian.
Episcopal.
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Following our prophetic call, we seek to embody the inclusive love of God in Christ through Spirituality, Community, and Peace & Justice.

All Saints Church is committed to excellence in its many ministries, building on these foundational values:

We are worship centered.
Our pastoral, educational and discernment ministries are strengthened and transformed by gathering for Word, sacrament and corporate prayer.

We are pastorally connected.
We all give and receive pastoral care in our individual relationships and through the various groups that minister here.

We are education minded.
We prize learning, seeking to know the mind and will of God through Scripture, reason, tradition and human experience.

We are world focused.
Our personal journeys of faith are informed by and made accountable to the world’s deep needs when we are dispersed throughout this multicultural region for courageous and risk-filled work of peace and justice.

We are growth oriented.
In the service of this maturing, relevant, action-oriented faith, we seek to grow in membership as well as in resourceful, prayerful and collaborative service.
They seem to be centered, connected, minded, focused and oriented on a whole lot of stuff that has little to do with Jesus Christ.  Tradition and human experience on a par with Scripture? :shrug:

Their website.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2017, 04:11:16 pm »
This shouldn't surprise anyone.
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At All Saints Church we understand Holy Matrimony to be a physical and spiritual union, entered into within the community of faith, by mutual consent of heart, mind and will, and with intent that it be life-long.  We are committed to treating equally all couples presenting themselves for the rite of Marriage. Our commitment to the sacrament of marriage being celebrated within the community of faith informs our policy of offering weddings for members of the parish.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2017, 04:12:28 pm »
They must mean the same kind of stupid "trauma trigger" as 'butt hurt' was declared here?   :laugh:
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2017, 04:29:26 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on January 16, 2017, 04:08:38 pm
Episcopal.They seem to be centered, connected, minded, focused and oriented on a whole lot of stuff that has little to do with Jesus Christ.  Tradition and human experience on a par with Scripture? :shrug:

Their website.

Yeah, that reads like Episcopalian gibberish.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2017, 04:31:07 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on January 16, 2017, 04:12:28 pm
They must mean the same kind of stupid "trauma trigger" as 'butt hurt' was declared here?   :laugh:

Yes, but you seem to have found all sorts of creative ways to be equally or more crude.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 04:55:41 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on January 16, 2017, 04:08:38 pm
Episcopal.They seem to be centered, connected, minded, focused and oriented on a whole lot of stuff that has little to do with Jesus Christ.  Tradition and human experience on a par with Scripture? :shrug:

Their website.

Figures.  The Episcopal Church hasn't been Christian for quite some time.  That's the reason they were read out of the Anglican Communion, as I recall.
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Re: Church Bans Donald Trump’s Name Because It’s A ‘Trauma Trigger’
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2017, 05:02:46 pm »
If something is a 'trauma trigger' to members of their church, they probably are focusing on the wrong things in their teachings.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2017, 05:06:01 pm »
That church is gay.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 05:15:24 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on January 16, 2017, 04:31:07 pm
Yes, but you seem to have found all sorts of creative ways to be equally or more crude.

That's a personal attack, @Sanguine

....or should I call you "MOD 2"??   :whistle:

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2017, 05:27:01 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on January 16, 2017, 05:15:24 pm
That's a personal attack, @Sanguine

....or should I call you "MOD 2"??   :whistle:

Be fair...or be square.

Didn't mean to trigger you.  Call whomever you like if you feel you need backup.

Just making a comment.   
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2017, 05:31:57 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on January 16, 2017, 04:08:38 pm
Episcopal.They seem to be centered, connected, minded, focused and oriented on a whole lot of stuff that has little to do with Jesus Christ.  Tradition and human experience on a par with Scripture? :shrug:

Um... this is the so-called "three-legged stool" of Anglican theology: "Scripture, Tradition, and Reason."

Every church and denomination has these things.  The Anglican Tradition just states it clearly.

Fair disclosure: I'm an enthusiastic Episcopalian despite the political trends of the larger church.  The liturgy and traditions feed my soul.  That said, the parish in question looks like one of those places where people are angry all the time, about everything -- it makes me grind my teeth in frustration. 
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Um... this is the so-called "three-legged stool" of Anglican theology: "Scripture, Tradition, and Reason."

Every church and denomination has these things.  The Anglican Tradition just states it clearly.

Fair disclosure: I'm an enthusiastic Episcopalian despite the political trends of the larger church.  The liturgy and traditions feed my soul.  That said, the parish in question looks like one of those places where people are angry all the time, about everything -- it makes me grind my teeth in frustration.

I'm an ex-Episcopalian, and I hate that I had to leave.  We got a priest in the mold of the national church, and I just couldn't support it.  I love the Church, but just can't support what it has become.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2017, 05:46:25 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on January 16, 2017, 05:34:15 pm
I'm an ex-Episcopalian, and I hate that I had to leave.  We got a priest in the mold of the national church, and I just couldn't support it.  I love the Church, but just can't support what it has become.

Sorry to hear that.  It's a pretty delicate balancing act these days.  My parish survived a very ugly split, which I'm convinced that God used to show us what was important.  For now we seem to deal pretty well with the rather wide political spectrum among the congregation.  It's all about keeping our eyes on what's important; politics doesn't actually seem to matter much on a Sunday morning or in Vestry meetings or in our ministries, and we try very hard to keep that in mind.

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2017, 07:07:35 pm »
Well, I'm Orthodox (Russian).  We've seen Christians who have left the Episcopal Church due to its apostasy come to us in search of a spiritual home.  They're always welcomed to learn about Orthodoxy and to join us if they find us to be the home they've been looking for.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2017, 07:47:43 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on January 16, 2017, 02:54:47 pm
A Church in California...


That triggered my funny bone. I suppose I should be ashamed of that.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2017, 07:54:19 pm »
Quote from: r9etb on January 16, 2017, 05:31:57 pm
Fair disclosure: I'm an enthusiastic Episcopalian despite the political trends of the larger church.  The liturgy and traditions feed my soul.  That said, the parish in question looks like one of those places where people are angry all the time, about everything -- it makes me grind my teeth in frustration.
I didn't get a chance earlier to comment - but will now - that this Pasadena church doesn't seem to have much in common with the Episcopal church in my town, which truly does appear to respect what the Bible says. I'm not a member of that church but know a few, and I have every confidence that the congregation focuses on Biblical truth, not so-called social justice. We really shouldn't generalize. There are good Episcopalian pastors and many good churches - just not the one in Pasadena of which we speak.

As a Presbyterian, I can attest that there are a few PCUSA congregations left that haven't gone off the (theological and doctrinal) rails, as well!
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Quote from: DCPatriot on January 16, 2017, 05:15:24 pm
That's a personal attack, @Sanguine

....or should I call you "MOD 2"??   :whistle:

Be fair...or be square.

I thought I was MOD 2?  Maybe I could apply to be MOD 007?
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