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Re: Deductive Reasoning
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »
I don't know about "feelings of loss", but I'll tell you why I remain on the fence about DJT: he is, at the very least until very recently, a part of the left that we all see as being a threat and we fear and loathe. There are also some personality and character issues that concern some of us. 

He has attempted to do some very significant, right things.  If the right things he does continue and show him to be a changed and matured man, then more power to him!  I absolutely support those efforts and give him due credit for doing so.  I love some of the things he has started or attempted to do.  Yaaaay, DJT!

I'm on the fence (which is an unusual position for me) but I just don't have enough evidence yet to jump down on one side or the other.  But, he's only three weeks into his term.  Let's give him some time.  So far, he's off to a great start. And, for the record, I hope fervently that he is what we hope he is and out-conservatives Reagan and Ike.

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Re: Deductive Reasoning
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2017, 10:32:56 AM »

 Fairly spoken in two excellent posts to which one could only add...AMEN!!

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Re: Deductive Reasoning
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2017, 10:46:06 AM »
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Deductive reasoning is HARD. So, why even bother? That seems to be becoming more and more common.
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Re: Deductive Reasoning
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2017, 11:53:19 AM »
Well, I take anything Azimov says with a grain of salt. He was hardly a model of virtue or wisdom about much of anything except writing and chemistry. He was a great fiction writer but his personal life was a mess. He was uh, promiscuous to put it mildly and to put it more accurately a sex-addict.

That quote applies to a large and growing extent to the AGW movement, which struggles each moment to substitute reality with what the fanatics pushing the movement SAY about reality.
 
We bother because deductive reasoning is imperative to any meritocracy.

The faux-intellectual movement has always existed because they are part and parcel of what GI Gurdjieff called the "hasnamussen" of Humanity ( who drive every despotic, regressive cultural movement). That term translates into, "those who are least qualified to lead others who yet seek control over others most vigorously and ruthlessly."

Another term for those who do not value truth or honor is cacogens. That word derives from Latin "caco" (filth, excrement, lowly) and gen (type).

There is an aspect of dysfunctional personalities in which the subject's ego inflates in order to convince others that they are worthy or great men(using sophistic dialectic/inductive/abductive reasoning), and in so doing convince themselves. Much like con men who somehow convince themselves of all of the lies they tell others.

Expand that to an entire political movement and you have the modern Democrat party and sadly a significant component of the Republican establishment.

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Re: Deductive Reasoning
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2017, 10:19:27 AM »
Well, I take anything Azimov says with a grain of salt. He was hardly a model of virtue or wisdom about much of anything except writing and chemistry. He was a great fiction writer but his personal life was a mess. He was uh, promiscuous to put it mildly and to put it more accurately a sex-addict.

Plus he was an out-and-out socialist....I have a lot of his books, but after a while he gets way too predictable and boring. Clarke was the same way.

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That quote applies to a large and growing extent to the AGW movement, which struggles each moment to substitute reality with what the fanatics pushing the movement SAY about reality.
 
We bother because deductive reasoning is imperative to any meritocracy.

The faux-intellectual movement has always existed because they are part and parcel of what GI Gurdjieff called the "hasnamussen" of Humanity ( who drive every despotic, regressive cultural movement). That term translates into, "those who are least qualified to lead others who yet seek control over others most vigorously and ruthlessly."

Another term for those who do not value truth or honor is cacogens. That word derives from Latin "caco" (filth, excrement, lowly) and gen (type).

There is an aspect of dysfunctional personalities in which the subject's ego inflates in order to convince others that they are worthy or great men(using sophistic dialectic/inductive/abductive reasoning), and in so doing convince themselves. Much like con men who somehow convince themselves of all of the lies they tell others.

Expand that to an entire political movement and you have the modern Democrat party and sadly a significant component of the Republican establishment.

Many of the 'uneducated" in this nation can think rings around the "educated" here because they have not been indoctrinated into the narrative and have learned life's hard lessons to look closely at everything and take nothing for granted.


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