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Obama: Republicans Should Have Told Me About Their Better Healthcare Ideas in 2009
By Debra Heine January 7, 2017

President Barack Obama taunted Republican lawmakers Friday as they prepared to gut his "signature legislative achievement" ObamaCare.

During an online interview with left-wing White House echo-chamber "explainer" website Vox, Obama snidely said that he would publicly support repealing "Obamacare" if Republicans could come up with something better, but expressed doubt that the GOP would be able to manage it.

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It is simple... GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS IN HEALTHCARE... NONE
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How could anyone know what was a better idea if the democrats had to vote on it to even see what was in it?

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I seem to remember words like "They can come but they will have to ride in the back of the bus!"  coming from him at the time!
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I seem to remember words like "They can come but they will have to ride in the back of the bus!"  coming from him at the time!

Obama sets a new standard for 'hubris' every day.

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How could anyone know what was a better idea if the democrats had to vote on it to even see what was in it?


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Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
CNS, By Penny Starr,  August 21, 2009

President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress -- while pushing their own health care overhauls -- have criticized Republicans as offering only opposition and no ideas for reform, but the GOP, despite the lack of media attention, has introduced three health care bills.
 
 The three Republican bills total almost 400 pages and have been on the table since May and June.
 
 In May, Republicans in the House and the Senate formed a bicameral coalition to produce the130-page “Patients Choice Act of 2009.”
 
In June, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) introduced the “Health Care Freedom Plan,” a 41-page proposal.
                                     
 And in July, the Republican Study Committee, under the leadership of Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), unveiled the “Empowering Patients First Act,” a 130-page plan.
 
 Some of the provisions included in one or more of the bills include: investing in preventive medicine, an overhaul of Medicaid, reduction of abuse and fraud in the Medicare program, supplemental health insurance for low-income families, tax credits for health insurance, and a ban on federal funds being used for abortions.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)
However, supporters of the Democratic plans have accused Republicans of trying to derail attempts at reforming health care without having a plan of their own.

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Since obamacare killed my employer based health care and made it unaffordable for us I could care less if they canned the whole crappy mess.
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How could anyone know what was a better idea if the democrats had to vote on it to even see what was in it?
Having the Federal Government do NOTHING was eminently preferable to the train wreck that cost me my health insurance, my doctor (who said effit and retired), etc.

I believe that course of (in)action was mentioned repeatedly.
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I wounder if I could get that gavel to fit in one, or all of her holes?

Put a quarter in her ear.
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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We were there that day and my husband got the satisfaction of yelling at her.

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Prior to ObamaCare, "fixes" to the healthcare system would have been relatively simple and straightforward.  These ideas, such as buying insurance across state lines, were proposed over and over again by Republicans for years, only to be immediately shelved by Democrats.  The reason these fixes would have been simple and straightforward was because a marketplace structure existed that was stable and reliable.

Democrats blew up that structure when a handful of elites designed ObamaCare behind closed doors with no outside ideas allowed, even from fellow Democrats.

Today, the leviathan that is ObamaCare has no easy fixes.  It has become it's own totalitarian state having such a vast bureaucracy that it cannot be dismantled with a single stroke.  There are tax implications, employer consequences, a research and development impact, labor laws, and on and on.  The list is almost never ending as it reaches every nook and cranny in American life today.

Republicans, faced with cleaning up the mess made by Obama and his gang of thieves, are contemplating a piecemeal approach to repairing the damage.  First tackle the employer mandate, next the tax implications, then on to the innumerable remaining aspects of the leviathan that will drag on for years.  This too is a recipe for disaster.

Democrats will fight, claw and scream bloody murder every single step of the way.  They will demand compromises and insist hundreds of pages of legislative gobbledygook be included in every proposal.  I have a better solution - tell Democrats they can go straight to hell.

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Let ObamaCare die a natural death.  It won't take long, there are already priests hovering around preparing to administer last rights.

Setup a separate, market based alternative to ObamaCare and let the two compete head to head.  Much like vouchers for school choice, allow each family and each employer the freedom to chose their own preference.  Some may select ObamaCare and that is their choice.  Most however, will choose from the a la carte menus offered by insurers that will pop up out of the woodwork overnight.

This approach has several advantages.  For one, it is relatively easy and quick to implement legislatively and it avoids the years-long battle with Democrats in Congress.  They can go straight to hell.

Secondly, the Free To Choose bill will have a tremendous conceptual impact on the American public.  And as the saying goes, perception is reality.  People understand instinctively that more choices is a far better option than a single choice rammed down their throats.  Allow citizens to vote with their pocketbooks and the message will be clear.

Lastly, Democrats would be forced to oppose a Free To Choose bill.  They would have to stand there before a microphone and make their case that a totalitarian solution is superior to a free market solution.  It won't even pass the smell test and the repercussions will have a decades long ripple effect on everything from school choice to EPA regulations.

The Freedom To Choose is a very powerful American concept citizens understand at a gut level.