Obituaries for 2017

[jmyrlefuller]

The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

[libertybele]

The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.

[Gefn]

I heard she had fallen on some hard times, I remember reading she was siupposed to have a cameo on "Arrested Development 4" but it fell through.

56 is too young. RIP.

[Gefn]

The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

A very talented cheftestant from "Hell's KItchen 16" ODed two days ago in Philly. Not releasing which drug caused the OD, but it made all the tabloids. He was 36.

[libertybele]

A very talented cheftestant from "Hell's KItchen 16" ODed two days ago in Philly. Not releasing which drug caused the OD, but it made all the tabloids. He was 36.

Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

[Smokin Joe]

Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

It's a symptom. The disease is more spiritual than physical. You would think, after the sixties and seventies, people would have learned that Heroin was bad sh*t and avoid it. But it's a new generation, busy reinventing the wheel and making those same mistakes, often at the behest of the hippies who are seeking relevancy even now.
 

Funny how the Democrats of today, the Liberals and Communists who pushed the same sh*t in the sixties now have the same 'social problems' from back then, after dumping enough space budget to establish colonies on the Moon and Mars on the "problems right here at home".

By their fruits shall ye know them.

[Frank Cannon]

The scenario sounds all too familiar. I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be heroin.

Joanie Loves Smack

[Cyber Liberty]

Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

The first thing the government will do, to that end, will be to go for the low-hanging fruit:  People who obtain Opioids legally.  They're easiest because presumably the DEA can simply punish Drs. who write the prescriptions and the drugs will stop flowing.

There's just the little matter of the fact these are the people who will suffer the most, but that's OK, it's government.  It's like gun control always taking guns from the most innocent first.  It's OK as long as bureaucrats feel good doing it.

[Applewood]

As someone who took prescription pain meds for all of 10 minutes once when I tore cartilage in my knee, I have a hard time understanding this particular addiction.  The drugs I was prescribed made me feel like (expletive).  I don't even think they relieved the pain. I just think they made me not care.  Not a feeling I like. 

Pennsylvania is spending gobs of taxpayer money on this "crisis."  One of the local TV channels is running incessant news stories and advertisements on the subject.  It also appears that an increasing number of clinics have popped up, claiming to offer a cure for this addiction.  It's another reason not to watch tv.

Maybe I'm hard hearted, but I don't see a problem here that should be my concern. There are plenty of people out there in a lot worse pain. Why reach for some powerful drug every time you feel little more than a pinch?  Maybe it's because we now have a generation of delicate snowflakes who don't know how to tough it out. 

[musiclady]

Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.

An article I read said she was living in a trailer park with her husband.

Not jumping to conclusions without evidence, but was he part of her problem?  Could he not work and provide them a home?  Was he doing drugs?

Don't know if those questions will ever be answered, but I find this story tragic.

[Wingnut]

Joanie Loves Smack

She was on the Booze Cruise too.

[musiclady]

She was on the Booze Cruise too.

Apparently so was Cuba Gooding, Sr.

[Sanguine]

Fame, and particularly early-life fame, doesn't seem to do anyone any good.  Some rise above, but many are not able to.

[Free Vulcan]

I don't think she made great money at residuals or gigs, but it seems she should have had enough to not be living in a trailer park in small town Indiana. That tends to hint at a substance abuse problem.

[mountaineer]

I agree, @Applewood . I'm a Pittsburgher living in WV, and both our states' news media incessantly yammer about the opioid crisis and "what is government going to do about it?!?!?!?"  but no one seems to consider the abusers' responsibility in all this.

[truth_seeker]

Addiction/overdose is becoming a very disturbing trend and its just not from street drugs but prescription drugs as well.  Something needs to be done.

President Trump, AG Sessions and the Homeland Security guy Kelly have all stated the Border Wall is in part to impede the importation of dangerous drugs to our children and family members.

My understanding is, Heroin is more easy to get and cheaper, than prescription pain meds (Opioids).

The prescription variety are predictable, the dosage and content are clear. Heroin is a roll of the dice. Unexpectedly strong stuff killed Janice Joplin and Jimi Hendrix.

They were of course foolish, but not intending to commit suicide. I believe few today, intend to OD and die.

Once in the grip of Opioids and Heroin, you just want more, your judgment is gone.  Unlike the two above, Prince apparently OD'd on prescription variety meds. 

Modern medicine is great for surgeries, but pretty awful when it comes to getting folks off pain med addictions. 

[bigheadfred]

Free heroin is the way to go. Hand it out like candy. Manufactured here without impurities and dosage controlled.

[Cyber Liberty]

I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.

[EasyAce]

Very sad...living in a trailer park after stardom.  As for the heroin, unfortunately, you're probably correct.

@libertybele

Don't know for sure yet about heroin or other drugs, but the Indianapolis Star says Moran and her husband
first moved to Indianapolis to help care for his ailing mother. They'd also hit hard times before moving there,
when their home was foreclosed upon and they were forced to sell another couple of California properties.

[bigheadfred]

@libertybele

Don't know for sure yet about heroin or other drugs, but the Indianapolis Star says Moran and her husband
first moved to Indianapolis to help care for his ailing mother. They'd also hit hard times before moving there,
when their home was foreclosed upon and they were forced to sell another couple of California properties.

She was reportedly kicked out of her trailer park home in Indiana because of her hard-partying ways.

[truth_seeker]

I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.

I have no idea, where you got the idea that "everybody who takes them needs to get off."

But people that no longer need them, get strung out on them, cut off by their doctors, and turn to deadly Heroin.

[Cyber Liberty]

I have no idea, where you got the idea that "everybody who takes them needs to get off."

But people that no longer need them, get strung out on them, cut off by their doctors, and turn to deadly Heroin.

Obviously I misinterpreted this line, and the gist of several that came before.

Modern medicine is great for surgeries, but pretty awful when it comes to getting folks off pain med addictions. 

Every time I see people mention pain meds, it's in the same sentence as getting off them.  I guess I just read things incorrectly.

[truth_seeker]

Obviously I misinterpreted this line, and the gist of several that came before.

Every time I see people mention pain meds, it's in the same sentence as getting off them.  I guess I just read things incorrectly.

I had my own personal experience with legitimate pain meds. I decided to try getting off, BEFORE my Doctor or PA even hinted about it.

I find the side effects of the drugs, to be worse than the pain. So for several subsequent surgeries, I got off the drugs asap, as in 2 days or less.

So I restate, I do NOT think our medical professionals do a very good job, managing pain meds.

We have a family friend, and their son died from the Tylenol in his pain meds. Did he REALLY need those pills, for years?

[sneakypete]

I good place to start understanding the Opioid issue would be to knock off the idea that everybody who takes them needs to get off them.  There are people with chronic conditions that don't respond to other medications.

@Cyber Liberty

True,but people need to wake up to the FACT that pain is your friend. It reminds you that you are injured so you don't do something stupid to make the injury worse. Yes,there are levels of pain that nobody can deal with. I call them the "I want my mama!" pain level. I've been there myself,and when you are there,you will take anything you can get your hands on. I have been there myself,but don't worry about recognizing it if you ever get there. You'll know.

BUT.....,pretty much anything below that level can be dealt with and the fewer downs you take for pain the longer you will live. People with chronic pain that take opioids on a daily basis may be managing their pain,but they are also weakening their heart and guaranteeing themselves a early death.  The ironic part about this is the more of them you take and the longer you take them,the less effective they are at easing pain,so you end up taking more to get less pain relief and to feed the monkey on your back. You have taken a bad problem,and made it worse.

[Right_in_Virginia]

An article I read said she was living in a trailer park with her husband.  Not jumping to conclusions without evidence, but was he part of her problem?  Could he not work and provide them a home? 

Actually, her husband was the one working ... albeit at Walmart, but he was the one with a paying job.