Evidence backs claim that Hillary armed ISIS. 'They are supporting all the terror groups'

[rangerrebew]

Evidence backs claim that Hillary armed ISIS
'They are supporting all the terror groups'
Published: 14 hours ago


NEW YORK – Documents made public by the Washington watchdog group Judicial Watch and separately by Wikileaks Julian Assange back up Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan’s assertion on Tuesday that U.S.-led coalition forces have given support to terror groups, including ISIS in Syria.

In an interview with Democracy Now’s Juan González on July 25, Assange said the thousands of documents released by Wikileaks through its “Hillary Clinton Email Archive” contain some 1,700 emails that connect Clinton to al-Qaida and ISIS in both Libya and Syria, demonstrating Clinton supplied weapons to ISIS via Syria.

“So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates,” Assange said in the interview.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/evidence-backs-erdogans-claim-that-hillary-armed-isis/#PX8SOGm5LwqYrTmr.99

[MajorClay]

Yep

[TomSea]

Jerome Corsi writes; and here are the emails to go through:  https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/?q=%22Libya%22+&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=0#searchresult

[jpsb]

This is not news, everyone knows that Under Obama we switched sides on the WOT. Obama, Hillary and Kerry armed, trained and supplies ISIS "freedom fighters". So does John McCain and his butt buddy Linda. Under Trump we will get back on the side of Western Civilization.

[TomSea]

This is not news, everyone knows that Under Obama we switched sides on the WOT. Obama, Hillary and Kerry armed, trained and supplies ISIS "freedom fighters". So does John McCain and his butt buddy Linda. Under Trump we will get back on the side of Western Civilization.

That's why we've killed a lot more ISIS fighters than Russia and Syria? Sounds like Russian prop; Syria let Jihadists attack US troops and even have terrorist camps in Syria.

If the allegations are so firm, Corsi should have quoted an exact email.

Notice, ISIS losing ground in Iraq but not Syria;

[TomSea]

Erdogan's avowed enemy are the Kurds; Erdogan has all the motivation in the world to say things like this.

Russia goes after rebels and ISIS takes back Palmyra, the ancient city.

[skeeter]

This is not news, everyone knows that Under Obama we switched sides on the WOT. Obama, Hillary and Kerry armed, trained and supplies ISIS "freedom fighters". So does John McCain and his butt buddy Linda. Under Trump we will get back on the side of Western Civilization.

Its not news because the NYT and LAT have no intention of doing any real reporting on it.

[jpsb]

That's why we've killed a lot more ISIS fighters than Russia and Syria? Sounds like Russian prop; Syria let Jihadists attack US troops and even have terrorist camps in Syria.

If the allegations are so firm, Corsi should have quoted an exact email.

Notice, ISIS losing ground in Iraq but not Syria;

Do you not know that the USA armed "freedom fighters" in Syria, Libya and Iraq  just to name a few middle east countries that O,H and Kerry have FUBAR.

You're going to have to back up the claim That's why we've killed a lot more ISIS fighters than Russia and Syria? As best I can tell we are killing pro Assad forces not ISIS fighters. Just like we killed pro Qaddafi fighters in Libya not ISIS Jihadists.

[jpsb]

Its not news because the NYT and LAT have no intention of doing any real reporting on it.

Yup, I'll post a vid of an independent journalist report on what is happening in Syria. Tom might find it interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M

Christians in Syria's Aleppo have celebrated Christmas for the first time in five years.

[Sanguine]

Bookmark.

[Bigun]

Evidence backs claim that Hillary armed ISIS
'They are supporting all the terror groups'
Published: 14 hours ago


NEW YORK – Documents made public by the Washington watchdog group Judicial Watch and separately by Wikileaks Julian Assange back up Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan’s assertion on Tuesday that U.S.-led coalition forces have given support to terror groups, including ISIS in Syria.

In an interview with Democracy Now’s Juan González on July 25, Assange said the thousands of documents released by Wikileaks through its “Hillary Clinton Email Archive” contain some 1,700 emails that connect Clinton to al-Qaida and ISIS in both Libya and Syria, demonstrating Clinton supplied weapons to ISIS via Syria.

“So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates,” Assange said in the interview.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/evidence-backs-erdogans-claim-that-hillary-armed-isis/#PX8SOGm5LwqYrTmr.99

Not news! This was reported on this forum shortly after it happened and continually since!

[TomSea]

Do you not know that the USA armed "freedom fighters" in Syria, Libya and Iraq  just to name a few middle east countries that O,H and Kerry have FUBAR.

You're going to have to back up the claim That's why we've killed a lot more ISIS fighters than Russia and Syria? As best I can tell we are killing pro Assad forces not ISIS fighters. Just like we killed pro Qaddafi fighters in Libya not ISIS Jihadists.

Daddy Assad helped kill 250 Marines in Beirut, in the world news section, we've got news how the Taliban are being aided by Iran and Russia. Iran controls Syria largely.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-iran-ties-taliban-stoke-afghan-anxiety-040857785.html

The Russians let ISIS into Palmyra and the USAF bombed the 14 tanks ISIS were able to commandeer.

"As best I can tell", okay, what are your sources if you hear about us only killing Pro-Assad forces?

[TomSea]

Oh, and why don't we listen to the youtube moniker of Syrian girl too; that must be reliable news.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXSnm4H5DiU

[jpsb]

Daddy Assad helped kill 250 Marines in Beirut, in the world news section, we've got news how the Taliban are being aided by Iran and Russia. Iran controls Syria largely.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-iran-ties-taliban-stoke-afghan-anxiety-040857785.html

The Russians let ISIS into Palmyra and the USAF bombed the 14 tanks ISIS were able to commandeer.

"As best I can tell", okay, what are your sources if you hear about us only killing Pro-Assad forces?

I did not say only I said mostly. Since the stated policy of the USA is regime change in Syria and since the US military is active in Syria it is not a unreasonable leap of logic to conclude that the US is in fact siding with ISIS against Assad. Just like the US sided with ISIS against Qaddafi in Libya.

[TomSea]

U.S. Destroys 14 Tanks at ISIS-Held Base in Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/world/middleeast/palmyra-isis-syria-tanks-russia-air-attack.html

If one doesn't like the NYT, this was in the news everywhere. This is only about 12 days ago.

So, the Syrians and Russians go into Aleppo to attack Rebels, Jihadists, whatever one wants to call them but they didn't go after ISIS in Palmyra.

Supposedly they will now, and supposedly, some questionable websites had stories that they were fighting them in Palmyra.

[TomSea]

I did not say only I said mostly. Since the stated policy of the USA is regime change in Syria and since the US military is active in Syria it is not a unreasonable leap of logic to conclude that the US is in fact siding with ISIS against Assad. Just like the US sided with ISIS against Qaddafi in Libya.

First off; the attack in Libya was a coalition, the US did not even start that conflict.

But as for Assad, allied with Iran, at war with Israel as the two are still in a state of war,

Historic fact, shows the Bush administration almost expanded the war into Syria because the Syrian regime was aiding US troops being attacked in Iraq, Syria's ally Iran, who is probably mainly fighting that war, killed 500 US soldiers in Iraq.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/iranian-commander-who-killed-500-us-soldiers-is-overseeing-mosul-operation/

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-sends-hundreds-of-fighters-to-back-assad-in-syria-says-israel/

[TomSea]

Iran will be the big winners in this. It advances their plan for Middle East hegemony.

The head of the Revolutionary Guards’ elite Quds Force, General Qasem Soleimani, who directed covert operations abroad, is now a celebrity in Iran and is the subject of music videos, documentaries, and news reports.

Soleimani helped Shiite militias in Iraq slaughter U.S. soldiers. He sent copper-tiipped IEDs into Iraq, killing at least 500 of our soldiers and Marines in one effort alone, the Daily Beast reported.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/iranian-commander-who-killed-500-us-soldiers-is-overseeing-mosul-operation/

This is whom are running the war for Assad, the Iranians who killed US soldiers.

[driftdiver]

First off; the attack in Libya was a coalition, the US did not even start that conflict.

But as for Assad, allied with Iran, at war with Israel as the two are still in a state of war,

Historic fact, shows the Bush administration almost expanded the war into Syria because the Syrian regime was aiding US troops being attacked in Iraq, Syria's ally Iran, who is probably mainly fighting that war, killed 500 US soldiers in Iraq.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/iranian-commander-who-killed-500-us-soldiers-is-overseeing-mosul-operation/

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-sends-hundreds-of-fighters-to-back-assad-in-syria-says-israel/

@TomSea
@jpsb

The current hostilities in Syria started in 2011 and came from the Arab Spring.   Syria is not an ally of America which raises the question of why Kerry had dinner with Assad in 2009 & 2011.   Nor does it explain why our government (Obama) is pushing to take young male "refugees" from Syria.

The reality is our government (Obama, Kerry, Hillary and probably McCain) were primary instigators in the Arab Spring.   They got Egypt & Libya destabilized and their leaders deposed / killed.    When Iran became unstable they refused to support the democratic movement and in fact undercut them.  When democracy threatened to win in Egypt Obama undercut it in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood.   Assad has been able to hang on largely due to the support of Russia.

There are numerous reports that our government has been supplying weapons to the radicals in those countries.  Despite the fact they are affiliated with Al Queda and ISIS.

Why is our government giving money and weapons to those who have vowed to destroy us.  In many cases using those weapons to kill our troops.

[TomSea]

@TomSea
@jpsb

The current hostilities in Syria started in 2011 and came from the Arab Spring.   Syria is not an ally of America which raises the question of why Kerry had dinner with Assad in 2009 & 2011.   Nor does it explain why our government (Obama) is pushing to take young male "refugees" from Syria.

The reality is our government (Obama, Kerry, Hillary and probably McCain) were primary instigators in the Arab Spring.   They got Egypt & Libya destabilized and their leaders deposed / killed.    When Iran became unstable they refused to support the democratic movement and in fact undercut them.  When democracy threatened to win in Egypt Obama undercut it in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood.   Assad has been able to hang on largely due to the support of Russia.

There are numerous reports that our government has been supplying weapons to the radicals in those countries.  Despite the fact they are affiliated with Al Queda and ISIS.

Why is our government giving money and weapons to those who have vowed to destroy us.  In many cases using those weapons to kill our troops.

If I were to concede this point; there are so many rebel groups they bleed into each other and in some cases fight each other.

But nonetheless, that doesn't change things too much that Assad fed the ISIS machine as well;

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/roy-gutman-responds-ehsani2s-critique-articles-arguing-assad-built-isis-staged-al-qaida-bombings/

And now, with reports that Iran certainly and perhaps Russia in an indirect way, may aid the Taliban, a Sunni group; I'm not sure if I buy the presumption of marking a war with a timeline.

The Arab spring began in Tunisia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/15/arab-spring-tunisia-the-slap

Sure, we did say Mubarak should step down but haven't we also said Assad should step down? Mubarak did not have to do that actually. We were wrong in Egypt.

French Mirage Jets first started the attack on Libya, I don't know if it is clear cut to say the US started that war.

[TomSea]

I think the point is too; is that what was to become ISIS existed prior to 2011;

Some of what ISIS is or was, was Saddam's old guard, so there were no clean slates to begin with in 2011 per active military forces.

[TomSea]

2009:

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said most foreign terrorists operating in Iraq infiltrate through the Syrian border, a charge Syrian President Bashar al-Assad denies as tensions between Baghdad and Damascus showed no signs of easing.

AFP - Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said Monday that 90 percent of foreign terrorists who infiltrate Iraq did so via Syria, a charge likely to worsen already fractured relations between the neighbouring states.
   
His comments came as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad dismissed allegations that his country was sheltering militants suspected of involvement in a devastating bombing in Baghdad as "immoral" and politically motivated.

Continued: http://www.france24.com/en/20090901-maliki-blames-syria-attacks-assad-denies-claim-

[INVAR]

Of course the Obama regime created and armed what became ISIS.

This regime was running heavy weapons out of the Benghazi Consulate to the "rebels" in Syria in Obama's plan to create an Islamic Caliphate by toppling all the secular dictators in the middle East.

Hildabeast was merely doing the bidding of her boss and trying to enrich herself and her foundation in the same process.

[TomSea]

Of course the Obama regime created and armed what became ISIS.

This regime was running heavy weapons out of the Benghazi Consulate to the "rebels" in Syria in Obama's plan to create an Islamic Caliphate by toppling all the secular dictators in the middle East.

Hildabeast was merely doing the bidding of her boss and trying to enrich herself and her foundation in the same process.

There are Christians in the opposition, otherwise, I don't think the Russians would be meeting with the opposition.

If all the rebels were, were wild eyed Jihadis, why are there Christian names among opposition leaders like George Sabra? And why would the Russians be meeting with wild eyed Jihadis to establish a cease fire? It doesn't add up.

"We in the High Negotiations Committee certainly have no connection to this matter," George Sabra, a member of the HNC, told Reuters.

The Interfax news agency earlier cited Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying that the Syrian government was holding talks with the opposition ahead of a possible wider meeting in Astana, Kazakhstan.

The HNC includes armed groups fighting Assad under the banner of the Free Syrian Army, and took part in a failed bid to launch peace talks earlier this year. The HNC was established in Saudi Arabia with Riyadh's backing in December, 2015.

http://in.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-syria-opposition-idINKBN14G0SU

So, Sabra is not in the current talks but has been in the past.

It's because it's a tired old line to say most of these people are Jihadis when we support the Kurds, are we going to call them devils too? We arm the Christian militias too. These are the bulkhead of the forces we support the SDF, Syrian Democratic Forces.

Russia is supporting Hezbollah, any true soldier of Hezbollah will call themselves Jihadis.

[INVAR]

There are Christians in the opposition, otherwise, I don't think the Russians would be meeting with the opposition.

What does that have to do with the fact Obama sought to incite the overthrow of every single secular dictator in the Middle East (which is why Assad is the excuse to arm what became of ISIS) have to do with Christians in opposition to Assad??

Those are NOT the people Obama was arming, anymore than the Christians in Egypt who opposed Mubarak.  Obama has consistently armed groups tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If all the rebels were, were wild eyed Jihadis, why are there Christian names among opposition leaders like George Sabra?

You are a bigger fool than I thought you were if you think Obama had any intention to help Christians in the Middle East.

[TomSea]

You are a bigger fool than I thought you were if you think Obama had any intention to help Christians in the Middle East.

To be kind to this rudeness, show me where I said "Obama had any intention to help Christians in the Middle East"?

Well?