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Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« on: December 07, 2016, 12:45:21 am »
He was only off by $3.8 Billion.

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Boeing on Tuesday responded to President-elect Donald Trump's criticism over the cost of a new Air Force One plane, saying the contract is actually for $170 million......

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/308990-boeing-says-it-is-under-170-million-contract-to-work-on-air-force-one

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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2016, 01:01:28 am »
There is no A/P order to Cancel. Like the story says the only contract issued is the 170 million for the design of the next generation Air Force One estimated to go into service in 2024. Boeing may not even have a 747 Line by the time a contract to build is approved by Congress. The next gen may not even be a 747, but a 777
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2016, 06:12:59 pm »
Forwarded this to my BA stockholder Trump-Davidian old man with the comment...

"I want you to earn a LOT of money on Boeing dividends... but not THAT MUCH money on Boeing dividends".
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 06:16:03 pm »
What Trump is doing here is really unusual, and probably could be improved, but the idea of a shot across the bow of federal contractors has some appeal.  I don't think the order will be cancelled, but it may lead to contractors being a bit more frugal for fear of Trump going "Trump" on them.  If it is viewed as sort of the opening gambit in negotiations...it's not bad.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2016, 06:19:12 pm »
Quote from: rodamala on December 07, 2016, 06:12:59 pm
Forwarded this to my BA stockholder Trump-Davidian old man with the comment...

"I want you to earn a LOT of money on Boeing dividends... but not THAT MUCH money on Boeing dividends".

I hope he has a sense of humor.   :silly:
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2016, 06:20:37 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on December 07, 2016, 06:16:03 pm
What Trump is doing here is really unusual, and probably could be improved, but the idea of a shot across the bow of federal contractors has some appeal.  I don't think the order will be cancelled, but it may lead to contractors being a bit more frugal for fear of Trump going "Trump" on them.  If it is viewed as sort of the opening gambit in negotiations...it's not bad.

As we should all know by now, Trump's Twitter account is his bully pulpit. At some point, saturation fatigue will set in, and the power of his message will vanish.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2016, 06:23:18 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on December 07, 2016, 06:16:03 pm
What Trump is doing here is really unusual, and probably could be improved, but the idea of a shot across the bow of federal contractors has some appeal.  I don't think the order will be cancelled, but it may lead to contractors being a bit more frugal for fear of Trump going "Trump" on them.  If it is viewed as sort of the opening gambit in negotiations...it's not bad.

Yes, if he had his facts straight I would agree.  But, he's wrong in this case and that will weaken his position in the future.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2016, 06:25:09 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on December 07, 2016, 06:23:18 pm
Yes, if he had his facts straight I would agree.  But, he's wrong in this case and that will weaken his position in the future.

It will be conveniently forgotten by his next tweet.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2016, 06:25:26 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on December 07, 2016, 06:20:37 pm
As we should all know by now, Trump's Twitter account is his bully pulpit. At some point, saturation fatigue will set in, and the power of his message will vanish.

Fair enough.  But at least he's using the bully pulpit.  And if there are some threats that are actually backed up with actions, the message will retain power.

I'm not a fan of the tweeting either, but that's apparently who he is, and it is at least one way to communicate directly with people without a media filter.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2016, 07:47:52 pm »
Quote from: NavyCanDo on December 07, 2016, 01:01:28 am
There is no A/P order to Cancel. Like the story says the only contract issued is the 170 million for the design of the next generation Air Force One estimated to go into service in 2024. Boeing may not even have a 747 Line by the time a contract to build is approved by Congress. The next gen may not even be a 747, but a 777

The 777 is not a 4 engine plane as required by the secret service.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2016, 08:16:42 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on December 07, 2016, 06:16:03 pm
What Trump is doing here is really unusual, and probably could be improved, but the idea of a shot across the bow of federal contractors has some appeal.  I don't think the order will be cancelled, but it may lead to contractors being a bit more frugal for fear of Trump going "Trump" on them.  If it is viewed as sort of the opening gambit in negotiations...it's not bad.

Um.... you're really sure you want a president deciding (on a Trumpian emotional basis) what companies get contracts and for how much?

It's not the president's job to negotiate contracts. 

But repeated interference in same would be a good way for his enemies to build an impeachment case against him.
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Re: Boeing responds to Trump: Air Force One deal is for $170M
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2016, 08:19:57 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on December 07, 2016, 06:20:37 pm
As we should all know by now, Trump's Twitter account is his bully pulpit. At some point, saturation fatigue will set in, and the power of his message will vanish.

The power of his message will always increase, the more he uses Twitter.... of course, the power he'll be increasing is not his own, but that of his enemies, who will use his idiocies against him.

If Trump's people can't keep him off of Twitter, he's going to end up impeached as a result of this sort of thing.
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