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The Economic Stupidity of the Carrier Bailout
« on: December 02, 2016, 10:56:14 pm »
Kevin D. Williamson
National Review
December 2, 2016

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One particularly tough and indigestible nugget of talk-radio stupidity afflicting the guts of conservatism is the idea that there is some sort of fundamental difference between bribing a business with tax cuts and bribing it with a wheelbarrow full of cash. The Trump-Pence bailout of Carrier’s operations in Indiana provides an illustrative case...

Republicans might have had a little bit of a point in the question of general tax cuts: A tax cut and spending are different things, even if the budgetary effects are exactly the same.

But in the matter of industry-specific or firm-specific tax benefits of the sort extended to Carrier in Indiana, they do not have a leg to stand on. These are straight-up corporate welfare, ethically and fiscally indistinguishable from shipping containers full of $100 bills...
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Re: The Economic Stupidity of the Carrier Bailout
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 10:59:35 pm »
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Re: The Economic Stupidity of the Carrier Bailout
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 11:09:37 pm »
Targeted tax credits like this are a total waste of taxpayer money.  The author is straight on.

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Re: The Economic Stupidity of the Carrier Bailout
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 11:16:57 pm »
In a struggling, developing immature economy it might make some sense for government to put up some supports for certain companies or industries (Japan did it (Zaibatsu), South Korea did it (Chaebol) ) . I'd still oppose it on principle of course.

But there are real drawbacks once an economy starts to mature. Government giving guaranteed loans (or tax favors or handouts) to some corporations at the expense of tax-paying companies keeps an economy from being free and dynamic. Real competition becomes muted, who would invest in a business that will compete head to head with a government supported one.

Sometimes these favored companies will not be innovated for long, they will tend toward family-run operation for generations. Often they will stop being competitive and lose money but will still be sucking down tax dollars or government-backed loans (malinvestment).

In 2012 LG and Samsung were fined for collusion on the price of appliances. They probably thought they were bulletproof even after the Chaebol system ended.

Daewoo Group went billions into debt, probably because the government had their back. Prior to the Asian Financial Crisis of the 90's, it was the second largest Chaebol in Korea after Hyundai Group. The government finally dismantled it and much of it vanished (as they would have long before in a free market). Some parts now exist as independent companies (Daewoo Shipbuilding, for instance).

Daewoo, at the time, was one of the largest bankruptcies in history.
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Re: The Economic Stupidity of the Carrier Bailout
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 11:56:28 pm »
The author is straight on.

@Oceander
No, he's not. He's just another Trump-hating RINO from National Review.
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