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Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado

Posted: Nov 15, 2016 9:36 PM PST Updated: Nov 15, 2016 9:39 PM PST
By Kelsey Kennedy CONNECT


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COLORADO SPRINGS -Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper is speaking out against Donald Trump's immigration plan to deport millions who are in this country illegally when he takes office in January. The governor says many in that community are fearful about their future.

News5 spoke with people in Colorado Springs who are here legally, but worry that others might not have the same opportunities that they were given in America.

Noor Phillips worked alongside the U.S. military as a linguist in Iraq. She is here in America on a special immigrant visa, but she says she's considering leaving voluntarily.

 

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 03:45:30 pm »
A lot of us in Colorado would like to deport Chickenpooper.....
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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2016, 03:45:45 pm »
No problem, just cut off all federal funds to Colorado and let Hickenlooper pay for the cost of illegals.

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2016, 03:46:59 pm »
And how does he propose to prevent lawful deportations?  Will this be the South ignoring lawful federal civil rights laws, redux?

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2016, 03:50:31 pm »
Who knows.  There are a lot of crazy libs in the Denver Boulder area.  Fortunately the surrounding suburbs are quite conservative.  Any action/riots/protests that happen in Denver would be pretty contained to the metro area.

Chickenlooper was the one who gave the state same day voter registration. This resulted in vans full of illegals going from one polling place to another on election day, registering and voting, then moving to the next place....  Colorado is permanently blue until that one gets reversed.
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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2016, 04:23:03 pm »
A lot of us in Colorado would like to deport Chickenpooper.....

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2016, 04:27:57 pm »
No problem, just cut off all federal funds to Colorado and let Hickenlooper pay for the cost of illegals.

Interestingly, that's not possible -- probably the most important aspect of the USSC Obamacare ruling said the gov't can't do that.

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2016, 04:30:49 pm »
No problem, just cut off all federal funds to Colorado and let Hickenlooper pay for the cost of illegals.


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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2016, 04:31:34 pm »
Interestingly, that's not possible -- probably the most important aspect of the USSC Obamacare ruling said the gov't can't do that.


Never heard that... does that apply to just health care or what?

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2016, 04:35:49 pm »
How is Hickenlooper proposing to stop the federal government from discharging their duties under The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952? CO National Guard?

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2016, 04:37:04 pm »
Interestingly, that's not possible -- probably the most important aspect of the USSC Obamacare ruling said the gov't can't do that.

Hopefully this will be rectified when they 'correct' Obamacare.

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2016, 04:38:07 pm »
A lot of us in Colorado would like to deport Chickenpooper.....

I love it ... "Chickenpooper"

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 04:39:49 pm »
I have been dying to see this showdown for years. Let's see what happens to these overextended states and cities when the fed money spigot is turned off.

BTW, if you visit CO, stay the hell out of Colorado Springs. It is easily the deadliest city in the world if the program Homicide Hunter is any indication. There are people killing each other in strange ways every 5 minutes there.


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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2016, 04:39:51 pm »
Hopefully this will be rectified when they 'correct' Obamacare.

That portion of the ruling -- that the fedgov can't use the threat of withholding funding as a stick to force compliance with federal mandates -- is a good thing. 

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2016, 04:41:11 pm »
BTW, if you visit CO, stay the hell out of Colorado Springs. It is easily the deadliest city in the world if the program Homicide Hunter is any indication. There are people killing each other in strange ways every 5 minutes there.

It's one of the the safest cities in the US for its size.... 

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2016, 04:44:18 pm »
That portion of the ruling -- that the fedgov can't use the threat of withholding funding as a stick to force compliance with federal mandates -- is a good thing.

Anything that helps decentralize power is preferred IMO. In this case, teaching localities to operate without going hat in hand to Washington is a good thing. Making them hurt for their ridiculous sanctuary city policies is a bonus.
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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2016, 04:49:09 pm »
It's one of the the safest cities in the US for its size....

Not if you watch that show. It is a killing field.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2016, 04:49:55 pm »

Never heard that... does that apply to just health care or what?

It was a majority ruling striking down the provision of Obamacare that would withhold all Medicaid funding to states that elected to not participate. 

My recollection was that they did not make this specific, and thus made it general; and given that it's a favored federal tactic, I think the precedent is established for states that wish to push back in general.

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2016, 04:51:06 pm »
Not if you watch that show. It is a killing field.

Well, yes.... but by that standard, Absaroca County and any number of English villages have murder rates higher than Somalia....  :laugh:

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2016, 05:02:14 pm »
I can appreciate that as one of the remaining 15 Democrat governors in the U.S., Mr. Hickenlooper is afraid of losing members of a vital core constituency, namely Undocumented Democrats.

Their removal would present a serious challenge to the future electoral prospects of Democrats serving in statewide offices outside of the coastal corridors. One can readily appreciate how such Democrats would dread having to rely on less dependable voting blocs, such as public sector employees on extended disability leave and the inhabitants of various tree-shaded graveyards.
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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2016, 05:08:09 pm »
Interestingly, that's not possible -- probably the most important aspect of the USSC Obamacare ruling said the gov't can't do that.

So basically every time Obama threaten this then, it was a bluff.
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2016, 05:09:29 pm »
So basically every time Obama threaten this then, it was a bluff.

Actually, I haven't noticed that the threat has been employed recently....

It would have to be challenged in court, if tried again, but the precedent is set.

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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2016, 05:27:27 pm »
Actually, I haven't noticed that the threat has been employed recently....

It would have to be challenged in court, if tried again, but the precedent is set.

He gave a shout out in a speech at a public school that he felt wasn't treating transgenders right that he would do it. There may be other occasions but I remember that one.
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Re: Hickenlooper says he won't allow Trump to deport anyone in Colorado
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2016, 05:35:15 pm »
Interestingly, that's not possible -- probably the most important aspect of the USSC Obamacare ruling said the gov't can't do that.

I'm not sure that would be applicable to this situation with immigration. 

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