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Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« on: November 16, 2016, 05:07:54 pm »
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November 16, 2016

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Professor Stephen Hawking says humans have less than 1,000 years on Earth before we are wiped out by extinction.

The celebrated physicist said humans will only survive if another planet was found to live on.

The 74-year-old said unless this happens then humans will be wiped out in a mass extinction.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2016, 05:29:14 pm »
Another affect of "global warming" - it turns brilliant minds into mush.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2016, 05:31:18 pm »
The headline is pretty tenuously related to the main thrust of his point, and the article.

Also, he said: "I don’t think we will survive another 1000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet.”  That's a bit different from the title.

This is why they convened:

"In short, the rise of powerful AI will be either the best, or the worst thing, ever to happen to humanity.

"We do not yet know which. That is why in 2014, I and a few others called for more research to be done in this area. I am very glad that someone was listening to me."


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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2016, 05:41:02 pm »
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"In short, the rise of powerful AI will be either the best, or the worst thing, ever to happen to humanity.


As if the same can't be said for virtually every major discovery ever made, going right back to the harnessing of fire.   :shrug:
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2016, 07:00:45 pm »
Quote from: Ghost Bear on November 16, 2016, 05:41:02 pm
As if the same can't be said for virtually every major discovery ever made, going right back to the harnessing of fire.   :shrug:

I don't know...I think there's a bit different level of danger with this.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2016, 07:07:24 pm »

Yeh, Yeh, Yeh, I know. I've heard this a hundred times. Unless we do XYZ mankind will be DESTROYED!


Why should I worry about something that may or may not happen a thousand years from now?
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2016, 08:08:16 pm »
Quote from: Ghost Bear on November 16, 2016, 05:41:02 pm
As if the same can't be said for virtually every major discovery ever made, going right back to the harnessing of fire.   :shrug:
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2016, 08:08:55 pm »
Quote from: 240B on November 16, 2016, 07:07:24 pm
Yeh, Yeh, Yeh, I know. I've heard this a hundred times. Unless we do XYZ mankind will be DESTROYED!


Why should I worry about something that may or may not happen a thousand years from now?

Excellent point, along with all of the other ones in this thread.

It may be necessary to point out that Hawking is trying to establish a career transition from physics  theoretician / mathematician to pop-star. 

Physicist Michio Kaku made that same jump years ago. Isaac Azimov (a former chemist) and former astronomer Carl Sagan were among the first.

Physics and science require adherence to strictly rational discourse. Pop-stardom is about getting attention for yourself to promote "exposure" and "brand value". Like a porn star or chewing gum.

Hawking has been making grossly self-contradictory statements for a long time now, (coincidentally concurrent with the termination of any more publishing of scientific articles or papers). He first warned against trying to contact ETs (calling the SETI program foolish) then reversed himself 180 degrees when a billionaire offered him a lot of money (and publicity) to join SETI.

He was once a scientist and worthy of great attention. Now he is just another clown without make-up, hustling for website hits and Fecesbook followers. 
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 08:12:23 pm »
Quote from: Idaho_Cowboy on November 16, 2016, 08:08:16 pm
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2016, 08:40:05 pm »

Intellectual pride is his problem. He presumes to be so smart, as to know the future.

But for all of his intelligence, does he have a method to hold back Plate Techtonics ??

I say that force of nature holds far greater risk for mankind, than any from manmade global climate change.

Plate Techtronics=volcanic eruption=massive climatic changes=extinction of species=migrations of mankind etc.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2016, 08:45:55 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on November 16, 2016, 08:40:05 pm
Intellectual pride is his problem. He presumes to be so smart, as to know the future.

But for all of his intelligence, does he have a method to hold back Plate Techtonics ??

I say that force of nature holds far greater risk for mankind, than any from manmade global climate change.

Plate Techtronics=volcanic eruption=massive climatic changes=extinction of species=migrations of mankind etc.

I don't think he thinks he or we can control plate tectonics; he appears to believe we can sidestep the effects by spreading out to other planets.  With that I agree. 
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2016, 09:02:44 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on November 16, 2016, 08:40:05 pm
Intellectual pride is his problem. He presumes to be so smart, as to know the future.

But for all of his intelligence, does he have a method to hold back Plate Techtonics ??

I say that force of nature holds far greater risk for mankind, than any from manmade global climate change.

Plate Techtronics=volcanic eruption=massive climatic changes=extinction of species=migrations of mankind etc.

Aka "super plume event". The last time it happened a whole lotta species went bye-bye. Bipedal monkeyrodents should probably take notice as well.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2016, 09:05:28 pm »
Science is supposed to be repeatable and testable. As far as APGW is concerned none of their models have been worth the 1 and 0 they are made out of in terms of predicting anything. According to the hockey stick we should be cooking and according to Al Gore we should have drowned, so why should I panic this time?
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2016, 11:38:45 pm »
Granted I have been hearing about the doomsday scenario ever since I was born. However, he is right, we should go to other planets, my fear that there is a neutron star heading to our planet or a rogue black hole..
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2016, 11:40:44 pm »
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or a rogue black hole..
that would suck...



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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2016, 11:45:51 pm »
Hawking shouldn't talk outside his wheelhouse.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2016, 12:00:06 am »
Quote from: LateForLunch on November 16, 2016, 08:08:55 pm

It may be necessary to point out that Hawking is trying to establish a career transition from physics  theoretician / mathematician to pop-star. 


Yeah, he already is.  Has been for some time.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Hawking

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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2016, 12:06:22 am »
Quote from: kevindavis on November 16, 2016, 11:38:45 pm
Granted I have been hearing about the doomsday scenario ever since I was born. However, he is right, we should go to other planets, my fear that there is a neutron star heading to our planet or a rogue black hole..

Pretty much any black hole, rogue or otherwise, would make for a bad day. Even one we create ourselves:

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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2016, 12:08:49 am »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on November 16, 2016, 11:45:51 pm
Hawking shouldn't talk outside his wheelhouse.

Yes, that's a problem for many.  They spend years working on understanding and specializing in one narrow area of this universe and don't understand that regardless of how smart they are, theoretical physics, for instance, does not necessarily translate into climate "science" or human behavior.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2016, 12:11:35 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on November 17, 2016, 12:08:49 am
Yes, that's a problem for many.  They spend years working on understanding and specializing in one narrow area of this universe and don't understand that regardless of how smart they are, theoretical physics, for instance, does not necessarily translate into climate "science" or human behavior.

I'm all for exploring space and spreading across the universe but predicting that mankind will be extinct in 1000 years is foolish.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2016, 12:15:13 am »
I have to wonder how many commenting actually read the story.
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Re: Professor Stephen Hawking says humans will be wiped out in 1,000 years unless we find new planet
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2016, 12:21:23 am »
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I have to wonder how many commenting actually read the story.

What's the fun in that?   :tongue2:
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2016, 01:22:31 am »
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The headline is pretty tenuously related to the main thrust of his point, and the article.

Also, he said: "I don’t think we will survive another 1000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet.”  That's a bit different from the title.

This is why they convened:

"In short, the rise of powerful AI will be either the best, or the worst thing, ever to happen to humanity.

"We do not yet know which. That is why in 2014, I and a few others called for more research to be done in this area. I am very glad that someone was listening to me."

I see no downside to AI and I don't buy the sci fi horror scenarios. No one has been able to satisfactorily explain why super intelligent computers or robots would have any interest in destroying us. Short of instilling emotions in  them there just is no driving force for them to want to destroy us. Emotional machines aren't even on the horizon. Without emotion there is no desire for freedom or lust for what humans have or can do.
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