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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2016, 08:22:39 pm »
I do miss the Protest Warriors. Not every one got what they were doing, but I did, and enjoyed following them.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2016, 08:25:27 pm »
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2016, 08:35:13 pm »
She married Kfir Alfia who started Protest Warrior. They are locals here in Dallas.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2016, 08:37:52 pm »
I agree with you.  I think people who go inside a rally for either candidate to do something like this are just punks looking for trouble.  If you want to protest stand outside the rally with your little sign.  I believe he was looking for attention and that's what he got.

While I agree with that wholeheartedly - that does not justify people shouting 'He's got a gun!" for the purpose of causing either a panic, or to cause him to be killed by servicemen.

THAT is actually more reprehensible than the imbecility of carrying a protest sign to a Trump rally.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #80 on: November 06, 2016, 08:38:36 pm »
As for Trump, an urgent reaction is normal.  My gut says that he is a total yellow-belly because he is driven by self-centeredness and that's how it plays out. If he were on the Titanic, for example, you can bet he would have managed to get his tubby behind on that boat with the ladies and children.  He would have negotiated away his own wife's seat to nab it, IMO.  That's just how I see Trump.  He will sellout the rest of us in order to achieve any kind of gain for himself.  He's an abuse of power waiting to happen.
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Now, just as you say, Trump on the Titanic would do whatever necessary to get on a boat.  No one would matter except him and that is how he lives his life - "Me, I am me and no one else is me and I don't care what happens to anyone but me."  I truly, honestly, detest this fake salesman as he may end up president.  Only caring about himself, he will destroy our relationship with our allies, reports from our allies show they are wary of their future if he is president.  The world revolves around this country, so the future of the world depends on what Trump would do as president.  He is truly the emperor without clothes and his supporters cannot see he is naked with no redeeming values/qualities.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #81 on: November 06, 2016, 08:44:08 pm »
Thank you, @Victoria33, and back at you!

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2016, 08:59:21 pm »
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2016, 09:03:10 pm »
@Victoria33

Thank You, that is sweet of you! You are appreciated, too, and you have a list of fine folks there, too!
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2016, 09:08:39 pm »
@sneakypete

I don't agree with you.  Adrenaline pours in at the moment of danger for quick action required.  When that ends, the body has a let down as the adrenaline stops flowing.  Example:

I can compare it to working as an EMT, which I was.  I responded to medical emergencies on an ambulance until I received my certification, and then in my gated community, responding emergencies before an ambulance got there.  Adrenalin poured into me and my body was stronger than normal, I could lift and move physical items or bodies that were heavier than I could normally lift/move.

My mind worked at max speed, evaluating the situation/bodies quickly and knowing what to do almost instantly.  Most of the time, in my community emergency response, I had an MCA (Medical Care Assistant) with me to help, to follow my directions.  Looking at me work, one would think I was calm as I wasn't jerky or frantic, but I was centered on the problems mentally and automatically doing what was required to save lives.  There is a mental list of priorities for an EMT to follow and those are drilled into us and are automatically checked off as we work.

Once that was over, I and the MCA were pretty much whipped, out of adrenaline rush, and the MCA and I would go somewhere to recover and calmly go over what happened and discuss if we could have done something differently than we did.  Every emergency was a learning lesson as no two emergencies are exactly alike.

Your saying adrenalin hits after the emergency, is just wrong.


In a host of situations, from getting to cover after an air plane blew up overhead, to a climbing accident, as a firefighter, an EMT, some dicey moments as a bartender/bouncer, while driving and in a couple of accidents, and a few other occasions, the crystal clear thinking, the slow motion aspect, the feeling that you are moving through water all come during the situation, not after. If there is some leftover 'boost' you feel froggy, sewing machine leg, restless, etc., and there is the 'adrenaline hangover' from the most extreme situations, but the adrenaline rush definitely happens when the stuff goes down. Afterwards would be a waste, anyway.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2016, 09:31:07 pm »
@RAT Patrol

I so agree with you - RAT Patrol, did you know I really like you?   034  Emotions are high on TBR when we post and I think we neglect to tell others we like and appreciate them.  There are plenty of attacks here, but where are the good feelings toward others?

Now, just as you say, Trump on the Titanic would do whatever necessary to get on a boat.  No one would matter except him and that is how he lives his life - "Me, I am me and no one else is me and I don't care what happens to anyone but me."  I truly, honestly, detest this fake salesman as he may end up president.  Only caring about himself, he will destroy our relationship with our allies, reports from our allies show they are wary of their future if he is president.  The world revolves around this country, so the future of the world depends on what Trump would do as president.  He is truly the emperor without clothes and his supporters cannot see he is naked with no redeeming values/qualities.

I also like/appreciate these people (and I'm sure I have likely left off others):
@Jazzhead @INVAR @Cripplecreek @CatherineofAragon @skeeter @jmyrlefuller @Suppressed  @Night Hides Not  @Norm Lenhart  @catfish1957  @Fantom @sinkspur  @libertybele @LMAO @RAT Patrol  @bigheadfred @bilo @musiclady @Chosen Daughter @Bigun  @mystery-ak  @mr potato head @Emjay @XenaLee @Sanguine @Once-Ler @txradioguy @kartographer @Smokin Joe @montanajoe @Gov Bean Counter  @EC  @AbaraXas   @geronl   @roamer_1   @Freya   @Oceander  @corbe  @bigheadfred 
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2016, 09:37:31 pm »
Trump said to take him out....
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #87 on: November 06, 2016, 09:40:47 pm »
@RAT Patrol

I so agree with you - RAT Patrol, did you know I really like you?   034  Emotions are high on TBR when we post and I think we neglect to tell others we like and appreciate them.  There are plenty of attacks here, but where are the good feelings toward others?

Now, just as you say, Trump on the Titanic would do whatever necessary to get on a boat.  No one would matter except him and that is how he lives his life - "Me, I am me and no one else is me and I don't care what happens to anyone but me."  I truly, honestly, detest this fake salesman as he may end up president.  Only caring about himself, he will destroy our relationship with our allies, reports from our allies show they are wary of their future if he is president.  The world revolves around this country, so the future of the world depends on what Trump would do as president.  He is truly the emperor without clothes and his supporters cannot see he is naked with no redeeming values/qualities.

I also like/appreciate these people (and I'm sure I have likely left off others):
@Jazzhead @INVAR @Cripplecreek @CatherineofAragon @skeeter @jmyrlefuller @Suppressed  @Night Hides Not  @Norm Lenhart  @catfish1957  @Fantom @sinkspur  @libertybele @LMAO @RAT Patrol  @bigheadfred @bilo @musiclady @Chosen Daughter @Bigun  @mystery-ak  @mr potato head @Emjay @XenaLee @Sanguine @Once-Ler @txradioguy @kartographer @Smokin Joe @montanajoe @Gov Bean Counter  @EC  @AbaraXas   @geronl   @roamer_1   @Freya   @Oceander  @corbe  @bigheadfred 
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #88 on: November 06, 2016, 09:45:57 pm »
Happy to be included on such a distinguished list of posters and VERY happy to have remained your fried for all these years!

Your fried what???
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #89 on: November 06, 2016, 10:10:04 pm »
Excuse me but he had every right to be there with a protest sign.
Just because you have the right doesn't mean it's a good idea.

But "Republicans Against Trump"—I specifically remember that phrase being coined by the Hillary campaign. He was a mole.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2016, 10:23:11 pm »
Do you seriously equate a Trump rally with a LaRaza rally?

You might be right.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2016, 10:26:03 pm »
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Your saying adrenalin hits after the emergency, is just wrong.

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What I said was you FEEL the adrenaline RUSH once the immediate crisis ends.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2016, 10:31:04 pm »
I also like/appreciate these people (and I'm sure I have likely left off others):


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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2016, 10:32:19 pm »
In a host of situations, from getting to cover after an air plane blew up overhead, to a climbing accident, as a firefighter, an EMT, some dicey moments as a bartender/bouncer, while driving and in a couple of accidents, and a few other occasions, the crystal clear thinking, the slow motion aspect, the feeling that you are moving through water all come during the situation, not after. If there is some leftover 'boost' you feel froggy, sewing machine leg, restless, etc., and there is the 'adrenaline hangover' from the most extreme situations, but the adrenaline rush definitely happens when the stuff goes down. Afterwards would be a waste, anyway.

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That's not the way it worked with me. Yeah,I was amped while the shooting and explosions were going on,and feeling like I could leap small buildings with a single bound,but I didn't have the time to enjoy it as much right then as I did immediately after it ended. I never really had a bad after-effect from it.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2016, 10:36:37 pm »
What I said was you FEEL the adrenaline RUSH once the immediate crisis ends.

Not me. After the fact is for barfin' and shakin' like a dog sh*tting peach pits. It's kinda my thing and I have perfected it over many years. I never considered that the RUSH... more the coming down.

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« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2016, 10:47:24 pm »
Not me. After the fact is for barfin' and shakin' like a dog sh*tting peach pits. It's kinda my thing and I have perfected it over many years. I never considered that the RUSH... more the coming down.

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That's a shame,but none of us really has any control over how these things affect us. We just have to learn to deal with it. I think many combat vets have so much trouble after they get out of the military because they get bored and miss that rush,which leads them to create situations to replace it so they can "feel alive again".

But....,we are all individuals,not machines.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2016, 10:57:10 pm »
@Victoria33

What I said was you FEEL the adrenaline RUSH once the immediate crisis ends.
I reckon everyone is different. I feel it all the way through: My surroundings moving in slow motion, feeling like I am moving through water, with the ability to think about how best to grab something moving through the air (or not) before it gets to me or which way to get out of the way or best absorb or deflect the impact, hard to describe, but thinking is crystal clear, fast, analytical, and even, on occasion, humorous.

But yeah, the rush was on long before the action stopped in each instance. Or maybe ours is a problem of definition and you don't consider the performance enhancement aspects part of the 'rush'. I do.

Aftereffects (leftovers) were at times like having a few too many espressos, but those were the leftovers if the situation was resolved before the adrenaline burned off, and yeah, I felt that, too on more than one occasion.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2016, 11:02:06 pm »

That's a shame,but none of us really has any control over how these things affect us. We just have to learn to deal with it.

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 :shrug: meh... Just how I roll. 10/15 mins and I start perking up. And it don't have to be that way, if I can walk off the shakes...

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I think many combat vets have so much trouble after they get out of the military because they get bored and miss that rush,which leads them to create situations to replace it so they can "feel alive again".

But....,we are all individuals,not machines.

Yeah - I was an adrenaline junkie... Not like battle, no doubt, but I was a wild child in my youth...
Then came work and mortgages, and minivans...
Took up rock-climbing in my late 30's - Man, what a rush! Didn't know what I'd been missing. Stress got rid of stress. Go figger.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #98 on: November 06, 2016, 11:19:07 pm »
@sneakypete
 :shrug: meh... Just how I roll. 10/15 mins and I start perking up. And it don't have to be that way, if I can walk off the shakes...

Yeah - I was an adrenaline junkie... Not like battle, no doubt, but I was a wild child in my youth...
Then came work and mortgages, and minivans...
Took up rock-climbing in my late 30's - Man, what a rush! Didn't know what I'd been missing. Stress got rid of stress. Go figger.

I think it's because physical stress - heavy physical exertion, really - is a 'clean' stress and leaves you feeling "emptied out" in a good way, as if all of the junk inside has been flushed or burned out.  BWM&K (before work, marriage and kids) I used to cycle on a regular basis - at least 100 miles a week - and after a full day of cycling I'd get that wonderful washed out feeling that only comes from totally using yourself up.  Now that my kid's getting older, maybe I can find some time to do that again, at least once a week.

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