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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2016, 02:50:42 pm »
I agree with you.  I think people who go inside a rally for either candidate to do something like this are just punks looking for trouble.  If you want to protest stand outside the rally with your little sign.  I believe he was looking for attention and that's what he got.

"Attention"?

He got a beating.

A beating is to getting attention what rape is to flirting.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2016, 02:51:28 pm »
Remember the Trump supporter screaming in Ted Cruz's face? As I recall, most Trump supporters thought it was awesome.

Funny, isn't it?
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2016, 02:57:51 pm »
I voted early for the first time in my life.

I did it for two reasons... I wanted to vote with my son who was voting for the first time and came home from college to do it, and I think that there may be incidents at voting places on Election Day so I don't want to be near them.

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I'd almost pay cash money to have one of those cretins  come at me when I got to the local polling place to cast my vote.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2016, 03:02:44 pm »
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/austyn-crites-donald-trump-reno-nevada-polls-rally-austin-protester-video-rushed-off-stage-secret-service-republican-democrat-dnc-hillary-clinton-plant-allegations/

#2: The guy is mentioned in wikileaks though not in regards of a relationship to the Clinton campaign. Still, very out of the ordinary.

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/11/no-one-tried-assassinate-donald-trump-austyn-crites-shows-wikileaks-7-times.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ActivistPost+%28Activist+Post%29

That still does not justify the mob violence that was inflicted on him.  Responsible people fight ideas with ideas and speech with speech.  They do not do so with threats of libel suits and mob violence.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2016, 03:04:07 pm »
@Luis Gonzalez

I'd almost pay cash money to have one of those cretins  come at me when I got to the local polling place to cast my vote.

Even voting early on a Sunday, we couldn't get from our car to the polling place without a dozen people trying to shove pamphlets in our hands and blocking our way in order to convince us to vote for or against something or someone. So it's not like I fear that someone would come at me per se, but that someone is going to shove someone out of the way and crap will start.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2016, 03:08:24 pm »
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/austyn-crites-donald-trump-reno-nevada-polls-rally-austin-protester-video-rushed-off-stage-secret-service-republican-democrat-dnc-hillary-clinton-plant-allegations/

#2: The guy is mentioned in wikileaks though not in regards of a relationship to the Clinton campaign. Still, very out of the ordinary.

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/11/no-one-tried-assassinate-donald-trump-austyn-crites-shows-wikileaks-7-times.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ActivistPost+%28Activist+Post%29

What he shows up on in Wikileaks are mass spreadsheets of mailing lists. I wouldn't be surprised if some people here were on that just to get opposition info on the campaign for stories.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2016, 03:09:41 pm »
Remember the Trump supporter screaming in Ted Cruz's face? As I recall, most Trump supporters thought it was awesome.

They had to have security escort Heidi Cruz out from the convention because people were screaming at her and getting in her face. Grown men yelling like children at a women. It was a disgrace. It was part of what solidified my strong (versus passive) opposition to not only Trump, but what he was creating.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2016, 03:12:45 pm »
Ahh, so violence is excusable if the victim "asked for it"?
Nobody said that.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2016, 03:31:01 pm »
I agree with you.  I think people who go inside a rally for either candidate to do something like this are just punks looking for trouble.  If you want to protest stand outside the rally with your little sign.  I believe he was looking for attention and that's what he got.

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Seriously?  Those Trump yahoos were justified in beating him?

According to his rights, he was free to bring his sign into the rally without fear of being assaulted.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2016, 03:32:27 pm »
Remember the Trump supporter screaming in Ted Cruz's face? As I recall, most Trump supporters thought it was awesome.

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Another site said it was a miracle the crowd didn't tear the guy apart.  For raising a sign.


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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2016, 03:34:38 pm »
Nobody said that.

Nobody used those exact words, true enough, but if I talk about a feathered biped that is caricatured by a Disney character named Donald who doesn't wear pants, just a blue jacket and a silly sailor hat, I think we all know I'm talking about a duck.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2016, 03:41:25 pm »
Now why would someone do that?

Someone desperate to create a story that his gullible supporters will be predisposed to believe.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2016, 03:42:19 pm »
Jill Filipovic ‏@JillFilipovic  7h7 hours ago
Carry a Clinton sign at a Trump rally, get beaten & choked. Carry a Trump sign at a Clinton rally, Obama defends you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/11/04/watch-obama-defend-a-trump-supporters-rights-at-a-clinton-rally/
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2016, 03:43:23 pm »
James Cook ‏@BBCJamesCook  12h12 hours ago
Austyn Crites says
1. I held up Republicans against Trump sign.
2. I was kicked and choked.
3. Someone shouted gun.
4. I was saved by cops.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2016, 03:45:02 pm »
Jill Filipovic ‏@JillFilipovic  7h7 hours ago
Carry a Clinton sign at a Trump rally, get beaten & choked. Carry a Trump sign at a Clinton rally, Obama defends you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/11/04/watch-obama-defend-a-trump-supporters-rights-at-a-clinton-rally/

What a set up.  They're playing Trump and his thin skin like a virtuoso violinist does her violin.  This will definitely be running side-by-side with the ridiculous tweet from the Trump campaign all throughout tomorrow.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2016, 03:54:37 pm »
@beandog

Seriously?  Those Trump yahoos were justified in beating him?

According to his rights, he was free to bring his sign into the rally without fear of being assaulted.
His rights have nothing to do with it.  You have the right to hunt a Bear.  If the Bear eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low.  You have with the right to swim in alligator infested watesr but if the alligator eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low. 

You may have the right to protest inside a tRump rally but if you get the crap kicked out of you, my sympathy for you is very low.  A rally is for supporters of a candidate.  If you choose to go in with the express purpose of causing trouble, my sympathy for you is very low. :shrug:

I think all you people who are getting your panties in a bunch are just doing it because it's tRump and his supporters.

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2016, 03:57:13 pm »
Even voting early on a Sunday, we couldn't get from our car to the polling place without a dozen people trying to shove pamphlets in our hands and blocking our way in order to convince us to vote for or against something or someone. So it's not like I fear that someone would come at me per se, but that someone is going to shove someone out of the way and crap will start.

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People trying to force me to take pamphlets I don't want is one thing. Getting in my face and trying to intimidate me by screaming or threatening me is something else,though. I respond to aggression with even more aggression.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2016, 03:58:06 pm »
His rights have nothing to do with it.  You have the right to hunt a Bear.  If the Bear eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low.  You have with the right to swim in alligator infested watesr but if the alligator eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low. 

You may have the right to protest inside a tRump rally but if you get the crap kicked out of you, my sympathy for you is very low.  A rally is for supporters of a candidate.  If you choose to go in with the express purpose of causing trouble, my sympathy for you is very low. :shrug:

I think all you people who are getting your panties in a bunch are just doing it because it's tRump and his supporters.

So you're creating some kind of connection between the primal instincts of beasts to stimuli and the reaction of Trump supporters to stimuli in order to justify the beahavior of Trump's supporters at the rally.

Oddly appropriate, oddly enough.
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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2016, 03:58:24 pm »
Dangerous madman at Trump rally escorted off stage by Secret Service:



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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2016, 04:09:00 pm »
His rights have nothing to do with it.  You have the right to hunt a Bear.  If the Bear eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low.  You have with the right to swim in alligator infested watesr but if the alligator eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low. 

You may have the right to protest inside a tRump rally but if you get the crap kicked out of you, my sympathy for you is very low.  A rally is for supporters of a candidate.  If you choose to go in with the express purpose of causing trouble, my sympathy for you is very low. :shrug:

I think all you people who are getting your panties in a bunch are just doing it because it's tRump and his supporters.

@beandog

You can think what you want, but it comes down to your approval of a violent response to an attempt at peaceful protest, and that's bull under any circumstances.  If Cruz were the nominee and a Hillary supporter was physically attacked for holding a sign, my opinion would be the same. 

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2016, 04:13:43 pm »
His rights have nothing to do with it.  You have the right to hunt a Bear.  If the Bear eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low.  You have with the right to swim in alligator infested watesr but if the alligator eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low. 

You may have the right to protest inside a tRump rally but if you get the crap kicked out of you, my sympathy for you is very low.  A rally is for supporters of a candidate.  If you choose to go in with the express purpose of causing trouble, my sympathy for you is very low. :shrug:

I think all you people who are getting your panties in a bunch are just doing it because it's tRump and his supporters.

His rights have everything to deal with it.  Respecting other people's rights, especially the rights of those we disagree with, is largely what separates us from the communists and the fascists, and the downright plain evil. 

I don't want to side with the Brownshirts, do you?

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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2016, 04:24:02 pm »
His rights have nothing to do with it.  You have the right to hunt a Bear.  If the Bear eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low.  You have with the right to swim in alligator infested watesr but if the alligator eats you instead, my sympathy for you is very low. 

You may have the right to protest inside a tRump rally but if you get the crap kicked out of you, my sympathy for you is very low.  A rally is for supporters of a candidate.  If you choose to go in with the express purpose of causing trouble, my sympathy for you is very low. :shrug:

I think all you people who are getting your panties in a bunch are just doing it because it's tRump and his supporters.

I was a Protest Warrior counter protestor back in the day (counter protesting Iraq war protestors). Are you saying that I should have been tackled and beaten up by the anti-war hippies and would deserve no sympathy? I protested a Wendy Davis speech a few  years ago how about then? Hell, the very first political action I remember taking was when Bill Clinton came to town in 92, I was still in High School, and they bussed the students to see him.  I wore a Bush/Quayle hat and shirt and carried a sign in support of them (I can't remember what it said). Should I have been tackled and beaten up?

You don't respond to opposing speech with violence. You don't even respond to a non-violent protestor with violence. The proper course of action would have been to isolate him and escort him out like what usually happens to so many protestors. Not tackle him and start kicking and punching him and grabbing his balls. (and only after they tackled him did someone else yell 'gun' (which there wasn't one).


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Re: The man behind the Trump rally disturbance in Reno,
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2016, 04:42:35 pm »
You don't respond to opposing speech with violence. You don't even respond to a non-violent protestor with violence. The proper course of action would have been to isolate him and escort him out like what usually happens to so many protestors. Not tackle him and start kicking and punching him and grabbing his balls. (and only after they tackled him did someone else yell 'gun' (which there wasn't one).

That yelling "Gun" crap sounds like a particularly dangerous form of "swatting" that could have ended with people dead and or wounded.