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November 4, 2016 BFH

Clinton Sent Classified Document to Chelsea That State Department Has Identified as “Foreign Relations Activities… Including Confidential Sources”

And Hillary DELETED this email after it was subpoenaed by congress.

There’s your case, Comey. Do your thing.

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Hillary Clinton has repeatedly stated that she believes that the 55,000 pages of documents she turned over to the State Department in December 2014 included all of her work-related emails.  In response to a court order in other Judicial Watch litigation, she declared under penalty of perjury that she had “directed that all my emails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or are potentially federal records be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.”  This new email find is also at odds with her official campaign statement suggesting all “work or potentially work-related emails” were provided to the State Department.

A hearing will be held Monday, November 7, 2016, regarding Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking emails sent or received by Clinton in her official capacity during her tenure as Secretary of State. The timeframe for this request is February 2, 2009, to January 31, 2013.

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Exit Question –  Why aren’t Diane Reynolds’ (AKA Chelsea Clinton) devices in custody?

http://iotwreport.com/what-is-the-fbi-waiting-for-they-have-their-case-against-hillary-arrest-her/

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On what charges?
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Well, its clear now that Hillary won't be arrested before election day.

She will be however the first running presidential candidate running undergoing a federal felony investigation at the time of, and going into the the election.
 

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On what charges?

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none, everyone knows that the local professional criminal forensic investigative committee have declared hillary clinton absolved on all charges - she's white as snow

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none, everyone knows that the local professional criminal forensic investigative committee have declared hillary clinton absolved on all charges - she's white as snow

Got it.  SO you have no clue as to what charges she should be brought up on formally...you're just for saying eff the 4th Amendment and toss her in the Gulag.
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Should we review how a grand jury indictment works?

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Should we review how a grand jury indictment works?

Indictment or information

A criminal case formally begins with an indictment or information, which is a formal accusation that a person committed a crime. An indictment may be obtained when a lawyer for the executive branch of the U.S. government--the U.S. attorney or an assistant U.S. attorney, also referred to as the prosecutor--presents evidence to a federal grand jury that, according to the government, indicates a person committed a crime. The U.S. attorney tries to convince the grand jury that there is enough evidence to show that the person probably committed the crime and should be formally accused of it. If the grand jury agrees, it issues an indictment. After the indictment is issued, the accused person (the defendant) is either summoned to court or arrested (if not already under arrest), depending on the severity of the crime.

A grand jury is different from a trial jury, or petit jury. A grand jury determines whether the person may be tried for a crime; a petit jury listens to the evidence presented at the trial and determines whether the defendant is guilty of the charge. Petit is the French word for "small"; petit juries usually consist of twelve jurors in criminal cases. Grand is the French word for "large"; grand juries have from sixteen to twenty-three jurors.

Grand jury indictments are most often used for felonies, which are the more serious crimes, such as bank robberies or sales of illegal drugs. Grand jury indictments are not usually necessary to prosecute less serious crimes, called misdemeanors, and are not necessary for all felonies. For these crimes, the U.S. attorney issues an information, which takes the place of an indictment. An example of a federal misdemeanor is speeding on a highway in a national park. An information may also be used when a defendant waives indictment by a grand jury.


http://www.fjc.gov/federal/courts.nsf/autoframe?openagent&nav=menu1&page=/federal/courts.nsf/page/221
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Should we review how a grand jury indictment works?

There's going to be a new "Trump Clause" to the 4th Amendment where by people who Trump personally dislikes are thrown in a SuperMax prison simply because he thinks they are "crooked" and left to rot for eternity.
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Indictment or information

A criminal case formally begins with an indictment or information, which is a formal accusation that a person committed a crime. An indictment may be obtained when a lawyer for the executive branch of the U.S. government--the U.S. attorney or an assistant U.S. attorney, also referred to as the prosecutor--presents evidence to a federal grand jury that, according to the government, indicates a person committed a crime. The U.S. attorney tries to convince the grand jury that there is enough evidence to show that the person probably committed the crime and should be formally accused of it. If the grand jury agrees, it issues an indictment. After the indictment is issued, the accused person (the defendant) is either summoned to court or arrested (if not already under arrest), depending on the severity of the crime.

A grand jury is different from a trial jury, or petit jury. A grand jury determines whether the person may be tried for a crime; a petit jury listens to the evidence presented at the trial and determines whether the defendant is guilty of the charge. Petit is the French word for "small"; petit juries usually consist of twelve jurors in criminal cases. Grand is the French word for "large"; grand juries have from sixteen to twenty-three jurors.

Grand jury indictments are most often used for felonies, which are the more serious crimes, such as bank robberies or sales of illegal drugs. Grand jury indictments are not usually necessary to prosecute less serious crimes, called misdemeanors, and are not necessary for all felonies. For these crimes, the U.S. attorney issues an information, which takes the place of an indictment. An example of a federal misdemeanor is speeding on a highway in a national park. An information may also be used when a defendant waives indictment by a grand jury.


http://www.fjc.gov/federal/courts.nsf/autoframe?openagent&nav=menu1&page=/federal/courts.nsf/page/221

To add a bit to that, the 5th Amendment says that no one can be charged for a federal crime without a grand jury indictment. As this is the FBI investigating under Federal law and jurisdiction, they would need to present their case before a grand jury in order to get an indictment.

This is different than State crimes and state laws (example, you can arrest someone immediately for breaking a State law like murder, rape, etc).

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DOJ, maybe the Executive  Branch protected her.

Anyone whose ever had a brush with the law, probably knows, this is total BS to not arrest her, "laws are for little people".

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DOJ, maybe the Executive  Branch protected her.

Anyone whose ever had a brush with the law, probably knows, this is total BS to not arrest her, "laws are for little people".

So what are you proposing?  Pitchforks and torches and lynch her on the nearest tree?
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DOJ, maybe the Executive  Branch protected her.

Anyone whose ever had a brush with the law, probably knows, this is total BS to not arrest her, "laws are for little people".

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This week was 'the go' time on this, and it came and passed.  The good thing is there is now overwhelming criminal evidence to prosecute to the point where she cannot continue to escape justice.

The bad thing is this country may be sending it's first president to prison.


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So what are you proposing?  Pitchforks and torches and lynch her on the hearest tree?

...hmm...that sounds about right... :silly:
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...hmm...that sounds about right... :silly:

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you guys are so utterly progressive in your thinking, defending hillary has now become your new cause in life  (and your old cause in life)

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This week was 'the go' time on this, and it came and passed.  The good thing is there is now overwhelming criminal evidence to prosecute to the point where she cannot continue to escape justice.

The bad thing is this country may be sending it's first president to prison.

Was that the findings of an empaneled Federal Grand Jury?
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So what are you proposing?  Pitchforks and torches and lynch her on the nearest tree?
Could we?  That would be fun and she certainly deserves it. :whistle:

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you guys are so utterly progressive in your thinking, defending hillary has now become your new cause in life  (and your old cause in life)


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Was that the findings of an empaneled Federal Grand Jury?

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Panel?  You're talking about 'PANELS?'

You mean like the panel right here on this web site of self-proclaiming forensic legal experts WORKING FOR HILLARY CLINTON?

ok ...  I know you and your legal panel will try and discredit ANY and ALL proof that Hillary Clinton is worthy of spending many years in a federal prison cell, and there is abundant proof of it already existing EVERYWHERE.

Is perjury even in your vocabulary?  Can you say it AND the name of Hillary Clinton in the same sentence?  In public? Protect her all you want, it is not going to work.

Here's something your panel will NEVER acknowledge - REAL lawyers pursuing REAL justice:

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Judicial Watch: Hillary Clinton Submits Email Information to Court Under Penalty of Perjury

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced that the State Department today submitted to the court an August 8 sworn declaration from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding federal records on her controversial email system.  The declaration states:

    I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, declare under penalty of perjury that the following is true and correct:

    While I do not know what information may be “responsive” for purposes of this law suit, I have directed that all my e-mails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records to be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.
    As a result of my directive, approximately 55,000 pages of these emails were produced to the Department on December 5, 2014.
    Cheryl Mills did not have an account on clintonemail.com. Huma Abedin did have such an account which was used at times for government business.

The document is signed by “Hillary Rodham Clinton.”  The State Department was ordered by US District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan on July 31 to request that Clinton and her top aides confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all government records in their possession and to return any other government records immediately.  The Court wanted State to ask Clinton, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills to describe their use of Hillary Clinton’s email server to conduct government business. The State Department produced last week the August 5 letter it sent to Mrs. Clinton, which included a copy of Judge Sullivan’s order.

Mrs. Clinton’s declaration fails to comply with both Judge Sullivan’s court order and the State Department’s request.  Clinton does not certify she turned over all federal records and provides no information on the extent that Abedin and Mills used her server.

The text of Judge Sullivan’s July 31 minute order:

    As agreed by the parties at the July 31, 2015 status hearing, the Government shall produce a copy of the letters sent by the State Department to Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin and Ms. Cheryl Mills regarding the collection of government records in their possession.  These communications shall be posted on the docket forthwith. The Government has also agreed to share with Plaintiff’s counsel the responses sent by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills.  These communications shall also be posted on the docket forthwith.  In addition, as related to Judicial Watch’s FOIA requests in this case, the Government is HEREBY ORDERED to: (1) identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives, or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information; (2) request that the above named individuals confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all responsive information that was or is in their possession as a result of their employment at the State Department. If all such information has not yet been produced, the Government shall request the above named individuals produce the information forthwith; and (3) request that the above named individuals describe, under penalty of perjury, the extent to which Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills used Mrs. Clinton’s email server to conduct official government business.  The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 7, 2015, including any response received from Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on July 31, 2015.

Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order late Friday to the State Department explicitly instructing that all federal documents relating to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills be preserved:

    In view of [20] the Government’s status report, the Court hereby directs the Government to request that Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin, and Ms. Cheryl Mills i) not delete any federal documents, electronic or otherwise, in their possession or control, and ii) provide appropriate assurances to the Government that the above-named individuals will not delete any such documents. The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 12, 2015, including a copy of any assurances provided by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills that they will not delete any federal documents in their possession or control. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on August 7, 2015.

The order was issued a little over an hour after Judicial Watch lawyers filed an urgent response informing Judge Sullivan of a plan to destroy federal records as reported by State to the court.

The developments come in a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit that seeks records about the controversial employment status of Huma Abedin, the former Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)). The lawsuit was reopened because of revelations about Hillary Clinton’s email records.

“Mrs. Clinton doesn’t want to tell the whole truth about her email system.  I’m a sure the court will have more questions for her,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “This declaration raises more questions than it answers and shows contempt for the court.  We will be seeking appropriate relief with the court.”

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Panel?  You're talking about 'PANELS?'

You mean like the panel right here on this web site of self-proclaiming forensic legal experts WORKING FOR HILLARY CLINTON?

ok ...  I know you and your legal panel will try and discredit ANY and ALL proof that Hillary Clinton is worthy of spending many years in a federal prison cell, and there is abundant proof of it already existing EVERYWHERE.

Is perjury even in your vocabulary?  Can you say it AND the name of Hillary Clinton in the same sentence?  In public? Protect her all you want, it is not going to work.

Here's something your panel will NEVER acknowledge - REAL lawyers pursuing REAL justice:

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Judicial Watch: Hillary Clinton Submits Email Information to Court Under Penalty of Perjury

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced that the State Department today submitted to the court an August 8 sworn declaration from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding federal records on her controversial email system.  The declaration states:

    I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, declare under penalty of perjury that the following is true and correct:

    While I do not know what information may be “responsive” for purposes of this law suit, I have directed that all my e-mails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records to be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.
    As a result of my directive, approximately 55,000 pages of these emails were produced to the Department on December 5, 2014.
    Cheryl Mills did not have an account on clintonemail.com. Huma Abedin did have such an account which was used at times for government business.

The document is signed by “Hillary Rodham Clinton.”  The State Department was ordered by US District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan on July 31 to request that Clinton and her top aides confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all government records in their possession and to return any other government records immediately.  The Court wanted State to ask Clinton, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills to describe their use of Hillary Clinton’s email server to conduct government business. The State Department produced last week the August 5 letter it sent to Mrs. Clinton, which included a copy of Judge Sullivan’s order.

Mrs. Clinton’s declaration fails to comply with both Judge Sullivan’s court order and the State Department’s request.  Clinton does not certify she turned over all federal records and provides no information on the extent that Abedin and Mills used her server.

The text of Judge Sullivan’s July 31 minute order:

    As agreed by the parties at the July 31, 2015 status hearing, the Government shall produce a copy of the letters sent by the State Department to Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin and Ms. Cheryl Mills regarding the collection of government records in their possession.  These communications shall be posted on the docket forthwith. The Government has also agreed to share with Plaintiff’s counsel the responses sent by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills.  These communications shall also be posted on the docket forthwith.  In addition, as related to Judicial Watch’s FOIA requests in this case, the Government is HEREBY ORDERED to: (1) identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives, or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information; (2) request that the above named individuals confirm, under penalty of perjury, that they have produced all responsive information that was or is in their possession as a result of their employment at the State Department. If all such information has not yet been produced, the Government shall request the above named individuals produce the information forthwith; and (3) request that the above named individuals describe, under penalty of perjury, the extent to which Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills used Mrs. Clinton’s email server to conduct official government business.  The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 7, 2015, including any response received from Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on July 31, 2015.

Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order late Friday to the State Department explicitly instructing that all federal documents relating to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills be preserved:

    In view of [20] the Government’s status report, the Court hereby directs the Government to request that Mrs. Hillary Clinton, Ms. Huma Abedin, and Ms. Cheryl Mills i) not delete any federal documents, electronic or otherwise, in their possession or control, and ii) provide appropriate assurances to the Government that the above-named individuals will not delete any such documents. The Government shall inform the Court of the status of its compliance with this Order no later than August 12, 2015, including a copy of any assurances provided by Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills that they will not delete any federal documents in their possession or control. Signed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan on August 7, 2015.

The order was issued a little over an hour after Judicial Watch lawyers filed an urgent response informing Judge Sullivan of a plan to destroy federal records as reported by State to the court.

The developments come in a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit that seeks records about the controversial employment status of Huma Abedin, the former Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-01363)). The lawsuit was reopened because of revelations about Hillary Clinton’s email records.

“Mrs. Clinton doesn’t want to tell the whole truth about her email system.  I’m a sure the court will have more questions for her,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “This declaration raises more questions than it answers and shows contempt for the court.  We will be seeking appropriate relief with the court.”

Is English not your first language?

An empaneled grand jury is one that's called upon to hear charges brought by a DA...in this case it would be a federal prosecutor...and once they weigh the evidence they decide whether charges are warranted and which ones apply to the situation.

It has nothing to do with a "panel" like a panel of experts.

Perhaps before you go spouting off and mocking the next time...you should make sure you actually know what the eff you're talking about.

It will save you from looking like a fool...again.
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