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Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
By Rudy Takala (@RudyTakala) • 11/3/16 8:34 PM


A drive containing data on potentially every official in the Clinton administration was likely stolen from the National Archives and Records Administration in 2009, according to emails deleted by Hillary Clinton but recovered and released Thursday by the State Department.

The information was conveyed by Blake Roberts, a deputy White House counsel for President Obama, in a message that made it to Hillary Clinton's private server in April 2009. "The National Archives alerted me that they cannot account for a 2 terabyte hard drive containing electronic records from the Clinton administration," Blake wrote. "They believe it was stolen. NARA has an identical copy of the drive, which it is analyzing."

Roberts said the drive, which contained information equivalent to approximately 900 million single-spaced pages, went missing between Jan. 30 and Mar. 24. He added that there was a "90 percent probability" it held personal information, including dates of birth and Social Security numbers, on all of Clinton's White House staff.

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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 03:08:15 pm »
This is very serious. The law is quite clear about this:

18 U.S. Code Chapter 101 - RECORDS AND REPORTS
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)   Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)  Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2016, 03:17:37 pm »
This is very serious. The law is quite clear about this:

18 U.S. Code Chapter 101 - RECORDS AND REPORTS
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)   Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)  Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

True, but the custodian still has to have a certain state of mind and there isn't an indication if the custodian acted willfully. 

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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2016, 03:23:22 pm »
True, but the custodian still has to have a certain state of mind and there isn't an indication if the custodian acted willfully.

Yet you're sure the FBI violated the Hatch Act.

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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2016, 05:13:43 pm »
True, but the custodian still has to have a certain state of mind and there isn't an indication if the custodian acted willfully.

Sounds like something that a jury would need to decide.

This would easily get the green light for trial from a grand jury.
It is certainly beyond the role of the AG to decide.

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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 05:20:54 pm »
I've never done any work for the National Archives, but I find it highly suspect that they would keep data on a single drive.  Nobody does that.
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Re: Deleted email: Clinton White House data stolen from National Archives
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2016, 05:56:17 pm »
This is very serious. The law is quite clear about this:

18 U.S. Code Chapter 101 - RECORDS AND REPORTS
18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a)   Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)  Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071

Yeah, just ask Sandy Berger about that.