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Exclusive: FBI still does not have warrant to review new Abedin emails linked to Clinton probe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

When FBI Director James Comey wrote his bombshell letter to Congress on Friday about newly discovered emails that were potentially “pertinent” to the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, agents had not been able to review any of the material, because the bureau had not yet gotten a search warrant to read them, three government officials who have been briefed on the probe told Yahoo News.

At the time Comey wrote the letter, “he had no idea what was in the content of the emails,” one of the officials said, referring to recently discovered emails that were found on the laptop of disgraced ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of top Clinton aide Huma Abedin. Weiner is under investigation for allegedly sending illicit text messages to a 15-year-old girl.

As of Saturday night, the FBI had still not gotten approval from the Justice Department for a warrant that would allow agency officials to read any of the newly discovered Abedin emails, and therefore are still in the dark about whether they include any classified material that the bureau has not already seen.

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If nobody's read them, how the hell do they know they're "pertinent to the investigation"?did

I'm thinking Comey did this solely to stave off a wholesale revolt at the FBI.  This has nothing to do with Hillary and everything to do with Comey covering his own ass.

And he's going to be massively embarrassed when he has to backtrack in a few days.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 03:01:34 am by sinkspur »
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If nobody's read them, how the hell do they know they're "pertinent to the investigation"?did

I'm thinking Comey did this solely to stave off a wholesale revolt at the FBI.  This has nothing to do with Hillary and everything to do with Comey covering his own ass.

And he's going to be massively embarrassed when he has to backtrack in a few days.

I am thinking that he is working to get Hillary elected.  Dropped the investigation before.  Now comes out with a letter about  new emails.   They don't even know what is on them.

Just look at all the hype that hit the media and now the fall.  Take everyone up as if there is something major.  Then nothing major no further investigation

If it turns out to be nothing Hillary will take the election.  Smoke and mirrors.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 03:09:35 am by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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The justice department with our Attorney General Loretta Lynch has not issued one, Lynch, the same one who took the 5th about so-called ransom funds paid to Iran.

Anyway,  NYPD saw the emails at the least: http://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/

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Though the topics may intersect, this really does belong in the scandal area.

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I am not seeing that. No way this helps Hillary. Even if there is nothing there it has already given new life to trump. I believe this guy used to be Republican and was originally a Bush appointee before being picked by Obama for the FBI.

It helps Hillary a lot if Comey is forced to say "Never mind."
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It helps Hillary a lot if Comey is forced to say "Never mind."

Yep, sorry cuky but I think this is the ultimate scam by the Clinton campaign.  I see Hillary saying I am going to make that email thing work for me.

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« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 03:21:32 am by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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If this is true and there was no knowledge of what was in the emails when he wrote his letter, then what Comey did was totally wrong.
It's one thing for journalists and talk show hosts throwing out surprises to influence the election, but it is entirely different for the Director of the FBI to be doing this.

Yep.  So far it's looking very much like Comey did this without any justification in an attempt to influence the election.  An FBI Director trying to influence an election outcome.

The last time we had anything close was with Hoover.

That said, there will be more information coming next week.  I expect my opinion might change with new evidence.
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NYPD investigated, law enforcement agencies share info; we don't know all of the facts, maybe FBI agents did see some of this.

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The fact that these emails were found on a device not turned over to the FBI is a crime in of itself. Huma signed a declaration stating that she turned over all devices that she used for email.
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If this is true and there was no knowledge of what was in the emails when he wrote his letter, then what Comey did was totally wrong.
It's one thing for journalists and talk show hosts throwing out surprises to influence the election, but it is entirely different for the Director of the FBI to be doing this.

Comey said that his investigative team briefed him on the e-mails.  So... I think this story is spin.

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The fact that these emails were found on a device not turned over to the FBI is a crime in of itself. Huma signed a declaration stating that she turned over all devices that she used for email.

The truth is surely, this simple.

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Huma apparently was set up that she could have really spied a lot. So it happens, on a computer that also has porn? Oh, brother.

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Huma apparently was set up that she could have really spied a lot. So it happens, on a computer that also has porn? Oh, brother.

Comey jumped the gun and so did Trump.  It is possible that they will not get the warrant and this will become the non story Hillary needed to boost her in the polls.  Sympathy.  They needed solid evidence to make any dent on her.

Major backfire.  This is now being played as election sabotage.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-director-james-comey-caught-admitting-he-knew-his-letter-would-create-a-misleading-impression/26439/

Trump is such a child too.  He couldn't wait to pour it on.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 04:03:44 am by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Huma Abedin swore under oath she had given up all her devices that had State Department emails on them
FBI found government-related emails on laptop Abedin shared with disgraced husband Anthony Weiner
The laptop was seized during a separate investigation involving alleged sexts Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl   
Abedin said in June 2016 she looked for all devices she may have used to send and receive emails while working for Clinton at State Department
She gave two laptops, a Blackberry and some paper 'files' from her apartment to her attorneys to review
Abedin said her attorneys were the ones who determined 'what was federal record' and needed to be turned into the State Department
FBI is determining if classified information obtained by Abedin could have been accessed on her computer or forwarded on to unprotected accounts
None of the emails were exchanged directly between Abedin and Clinton

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3886214/Huma-Abedin-swore-oath-gave-devices-State-Department-emails-them.html

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Is this a matter of a warrant, or just permission with respect to potentially classified materials?  If they had a warrant to search the computer arising out of the Weiner investigation, then generally speaking that may cover other emails they find (somebody who stores their stuff on someone else's computer runs the risk of losing their protected privacy interest). 

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Is this a matter of a warrant, or just permission with respect to potentially classified materials?  If they had a warrant to search the computer arising out of the Weiner investigation, then generally speaking that may cover other emails they find (somebody who stores their stuff on someone else's computer runs the risk of losing their protected privacy interest).

I’m by all means not a legal expert, but from what I have learned is that search warrants are almost always limited or restricted as to what can be searched and what evidence can be seized. In this particular alleged illegal sexual minor contact investigation, the judge signing the search warrant would probably limit the search of electronic communications to only items of an illegal sexual nature. Neither the investigators nor the warrant signing judge would have any idea that this search would also stumble upon what appears to be unauthorized and illegal emails containing classified information stored on the subject personal devices. Once the investigators executing a search warrant chance upon probable cause evidence that additional crimes beyond the scope of the original search warrant, they would normally present that probable cause in a very immediate request for a search warrant for the investigation of additional criminal activity.

It is not good to read that as of Saturday night, two days after investigators had possibly found that there may be unauthorized storage of classified emails, that the DOJ had not issued a search warrant to the FBI. That looks like the DOJ is trying to stall any further investigation into Clinton’s illegal activity.
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If this is true and there was no knowledge of what was in the emails when he wrote his letter, then what Comey did was totally wrong.
It's one thing for journalists and talk show hosts throwing out surprises to influence the election, but it is entirely different for the Director of the FBI to be doing this.
Not yet getting the warrant does not mean the FBI has not read these emails. It means they can not use them as evidence in court. Of course they have read the emails.

The fact that Lynch's DOJ is sitting on the FBI warrant request could be nobama's (ValJarret) making sure this drags out longer to let hitlery twist in the wind. Regardless of status of warrant, none of these emails, aside from possible Wikileaks, will be made public before Election Day.

 If DOJ refuses the warrant request, then they are being political and we are in a Constitutional Crisis.

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It helps Hillary a lot if Comey is forced to say "Never mind."

FBI will not say "never mind".

No smart lawyer would ever ask any question they do not know the answer to beforehand.

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Comey jumped the gun and so did Trump.  It is possible that they will not get the warrant and this will become the non story Hillary needed to boost her in the polls.  Sympathy.  They needed solid evidence to make any dent on her.

Major backfire.  This is now being played as election sabotage.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-director-james-comey-caught-admitting-he-knew-his-letter-would-create-a-misleading-impression/26439/

Trump is such a child too.  He couldn't wait to pour it on.

Pete Williams on Meet the Press:  "The FBI doesn't know what is in the emails.  They have not looked at them or analyzed them.  All they know is that some emails were found on Huma Abedin's computer and have decided to investigate." 

Huma Abedin may be the "target" and not Hillary at all.
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FBI will not say "never mind".

No smart lawyer would ever ask any question they do not know the answer to beforehand.

Comey would.  He has no idea what is in these emails.
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FBI will not say "never mind".

No smart lawyer would ever ask any question they do not know the answer to beforehand.

What he's doing is allowing the press to build the narrative.  And right now the press is building the narrative that Comey has no idea what is in these emails, he jumped the gun, he disregarded DOJ protocol by "interfering" in an election.

That's all sympathetic to Hillary.  Rather than dampen enthusiasm for her, it will increase enthusiasm. 

And there may yet be another oppo drop on Trump.
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What he's doing is allowing the press to build the narrative.  And right now the press is building the narrative that Comey has no idea what is in these emails, he jumped the gun, he disregarded DOJ protocol by "interfering" in an election.

That's all sympathetic to Hillary.  Rather than dampen enthusiasm for her, it will increase enthusiasm. 

And there may yet be another oppo drop on Trump.

Gee, the press being pro-Hillary, well isn't that new?

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Comey would.  He has no idea what is in these emails.

Come on now!  You are the one who doesn't have any idea as to what they have or don't have.  And furthermore I would bet you that Comey had to be dragged kicking and screaming to,making this move.  There has to,be something there or else he would never have agreed to do this.
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Come on now!  You are the one who doesn't have any idea as to what they have or don't have.  And furthermore I would bet you that Comey had to be dragged kicking and screaming to,making this move.  There has to,be something there or else he would never have agreed to do this.

Someone had to put a gun to his head to get him to send that letter to Congress.