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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2016, 08:37:01 pm »
Yeah, but I'm not saying Trump shouldn't be allowed to talk, just that he's a slug.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2016, 08:38:12 pm »
  Just don't try to dictate to others what they can or can't, should or shouldn't, watch.  JS....

I have a right to share my opinion and I will. "I watched an episode and didn't like it" was the only thing I was going to post until I saw all the hate and filth sent towards those of us with standards.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2016, 08:49:54 pm »
Those who can't or won't govern themselves but want limited government are worrisome

Are you claiming someone who is entertained by apocalypse sci-fi is incapable of governing themselves?  Really? 
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« Reply #78 on: October 26, 2016, 08:54:24 pm »
Those who can't or won't govern themselves but want limited government are worrisome

What?

 I would rather have those than baby momma gov't dependent types with 8 kids who want big gov't entitlements to help them in every aspect of their lives.

If someone wants to be a bum and live on the street let em...why should multiple gov't agencies be created to help them? (other than truly mentally ill or physically disabled-those should be helped).


My philosophy is if you screwed up your life(can't govern yourself) and won't make changes to improve your ;lot in life .. heck with ya.

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« Reply #79 on: October 26, 2016, 08:54:24 pm »


You sure are full of yourself, aren't you, @sneakypete ?

Just for the record, though, your calling me a "church lady" makes me fall to the floor in gales of laughter.  It's funny for me to imagine you at your keyboard thinking you're leveling a great insult, and knowing it's really just dopey.

I will always be thankful that Hollywood produced absolutely great pictures in the 30's, with great stars, great acting, and completely watchable from beginning to end.

The self-censorship Hollywood did hasn't hurt you a bit.  There's been all kinds of garbage made since they dropped the code that I'm sure titillates you, so you have your entertainment.

But for those of us who prefer plot to porn, I'm glad there was a time when good movies were actually produced without gratuitous nonsense to please the less mature among us.

Here's to romance!  Here's to orchestras out in the forest and Mounties bursting into song!  Here's to Hollywood's GOLDEN AGE!!   ^-^

It's been downhill ever since.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #80 on: October 26, 2016, 09:01:30 pm »
And neither do I until the homos and transgenders tell me I must cater to their marriages, tell my church that they must open their restrooms to them and perform their wedding services, or that they can have sex in public, while that I can't disagree publicly with their morality. <<

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I'm with ya on that stuff,and I suspect almost everybody else is,also.

>>Or push their crap on little elementary kids in school, tell kids they can be different genders or gay,<<

Some kids ARE homosexual at birth. They have no choice but to deal with it,and neither do you. They have just as many rights and freedoms as the rest of us. Deal with it.



 >>or have 14 y/o minor girls get abortions without parental consent. Or try to excuse pedophelia,<<

A 14 year old is a child,and NOBODY has a right to do non-emergency surgery on a 14 year old without parental permission. Period.

>>Then it becomes our business. Then it's over the line and in your face, and that's what liberals do. <<

First off,they aren't liberal in any sense of the word. Secondly,as for the "in your/my face" aspect,they also have a right to do that just like you have a right to tell them Jesus will hate them because they are homos.  You have a right to hate/resent it,and so do I,but what neither of us has is a RIGHT to interfere with their rights as American citizens. Freedom of speech is a two-way street.



>>They aren't libertarians, they are theocrats, and they will never ever ever ever ever ever ever stop until everyone agrees with them, has their beliefs, and lives exactly how they're told.<<

This is getting confusing,here. Who are you talking about now,the fascist left or the fascist religious types?



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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #81 on: October 26, 2016, 09:01:46 pm »
@mirraflake

My ex-best friend was a totally goody-two-shoes all her life.   Then last year, she up and divorces her husband, screws him out of some cash and then uses that money to go to Albania and marry some guy she met online who can't come here because he can't get a passport and he's not allowed into America anyway, apparently "He's on some kind of list or something"

I've seen it  a million times..absolutely shocking stories..  men and women I would never suspect.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2016, 09:03:09 pm »

And that might have worked well if liberals had left abortion as a states rights thing. <<

Huh? When did that legally change?

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #83 on: October 26, 2016, 09:08:29 pm »
and now you back a man who says his own daughter is a "nice piece of @$$"

check mate

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Out of all the nonsense that both Bubbette! and Donald Little Hands have regurgitated over the last several months,you are fixated on THAT?

HOW does that relate to protecting and preserving the US Constitution,protecting our borders,rebuilding our economy,eliminating bullshit laws that do nothing but empower government,etc,etc,etc?

I personally don't give a damn if he pimps her out so long as he does his job as president to do the things above.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #84 on: October 26, 2016, 09:08:54 pm »

You sure are full of yourself, aren't you, @sneakypete ?

Just for the record, though, your calling me a "church lady" makes me fall to the floor in gales of laughter.  It's funny for me to imagine you at your keyboard thinking you're leveling a great insult, and knowing it's really just dopey.

I will always be thankful that Hollywood produced absolutely great pictures in the 30's, with great stars, great acting, and completely watchable from beginning to end.

The self-censorship Hollywood did hasn't hurt you a bit.  There's been all kinds of garbage made since they dropped the code that I'm sure titillates you, so you have your entertainment.

But for those of us who prefer plot to porn, I'm glad there was a time when good movies were actually produced without gratuitous nonsense to please the less mature among us.

Here's to romance!  Here's to orchestras out in the forest and Mounties bursting into song!  Here's to Hollywood's GOLDEN AGE!!   ^-^

It's been downhill ever since.

I watched "Summer Stock" on TCM several months back..mainly to see the tractor Judy Garland bought ( I have one). I will be man enough to say I thought the movie was good and will watch it again...though I am a big fan of TCM anyway but also like my hedonistic movies lol.

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Anything campy 50's sci fi

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2016, 09:13:33 pm »
Just like those of us who oppose Trump on moral grounds are accused of being 'Ned Flanders types' positioning ourselves as the arbiter for what is and is not appropriate, I guess.

I have every right to say a TV show is perverted and immoral if I think it is. I'm not going to apologize for having standards of decency.


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Probably not,but you SHOULD apologize for setting yourself up as the arbitrator of what other adults "should be allowed to watch and enjoy".

The Ned Flanders tag is on the SPOT appropriate for the Bible Thumpers who think they are more moral than everyone else,and that THEY should be the ones to tell us what can should and what we should not enjoy. Don't even THINK about trying to claim you wouldn't make it illegal for anyone to do if you had the power because nobody is going to believe you. You have already spent too much time bitching about it.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #86 on: October 26, 2016, 09:14:46 pm »
I'm confused.  Are you trying to equate child porn with a zombie apocalypse show like The Walking Dead?  There's a serious disconnect here, if so.

Bottom line....if you have young kids, don't allow them to watch it.  Keep your opinion.  Nobody is saying otherwise.  Just don't try to dictate to others what they can or can't, should or shouldn't, watch.  JS....

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2016, 09:17:40 pm »
I have a right to share my opinion and I will. "I watched an episode and didn't like it" was the only thing I was going to post until I saw all the hate and filth sent towards those of us with standards.

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No,you started getting back what you were putting out and then claiming your "standards" are higher than ours because we watch a tv show you don't approve of.

You ARE Ned Flanders. If you were a female,you would be Mrs.Grundy of Robert Heinlein fame.  You probably don't approve of Heinlein,either.  Your loss,not ours.
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« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2016, 09:19:56 pm »
@geronl

No,you started getting back what you were putting out and then claiming your "standards" are higher than ours because we watch a tv show you don't approve of.

Different standards or maybe some lack them completely. I don't care what shows you watch.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2016, 09:22:25 pm »
The thing that cracks me up is that in one episode who had a guy get his leg cut off and these bad guys roasted and ate it while telling him that they were going to do the same to his girlfriend, but that's ok.  Heck the whole Terminus thing where they made people kneel in front of a trough and then they bashed their heads in and butchered them like hogs, that's cool, but now this is too far?  Really?

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2016, 09:25:40 pm »

You sure are full of yourself, aren't you, @sneakypete ?<<

No,I'm just rational and I live in this century. I can see why that would confuse you.


>>Just for the record, though, your calling me a "church lady" makes me fall to the floor in gales of laughter.  It's funny for me to imagine you at your keyboard thinking you're leveling a great insult, and knowing it's really just dopey.<<

It was intended as an accurate description,not an insult. If being identified as a Church Lady offends you,I apologize.

Then again,if YOU consider it to be an insult,maybe you should loosen up a little?


>>I will always be thankful that Hollywood produced absolutely great pictures in the 30's, with great stars, great acting, and completely watchable from beginning to end.<<

And I will always be grateful nobody can force me to watch those snoozers. I did like the Marx Brothers movies,though. They were also out in the 30's,but I doubt you would admit to enjoying them.

>>The self-censorship Hollywood did hasn't hurt you a bit.  There's been all kinds of garbage made since they dropped the code that I'm sure titillates you, so you have your entertainment.<<

Ahhh,the passive-aggressive attack! Insult by implication so you can pretend you didn't do it. VERY smooth!

>>But for those of us who prefer plot to porn, I'm glad there was a time when good movies were actually produced without gratuitous nonsense to please the less mature among us.<<

There is somebody out there that is nekkid and doing "it" RIGHT NOW,and they might even live on the same block as you!

>>Here's to romance!  Here's to orchestras out in the forest and Mounties bursting into song!  Here's to Hollywood's GOLDEN AGE!!   ^-^<<

If it makes you happy to watch it,I am happy for you. Where you cross the line is wishing the rest of us were sentenced to watch it also.


 
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2016, 09:30:43 pm »
I watched "Summer Stock" on TCM several months back..mainly to see the tractor Judy Garland bought ( I have one). I will be man enough to say I thought the movie was good and will watch it again...though I am a big fan of TCM anyway but also like my hedonistic movies lol.

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Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House
Best Years of our Lives
Anything campy 50's sci fi

@musiclady

Do you like the movie "THEM!" about the mutant ants, starring James Arness??  I LOVE that one!

And I also love Vincent Price in "House of Wax."

They don't make 'em like that any more!   ^-^

I'm also a Frank Capra fan.  They made fun of his corny movies even back when he made them, but "Mr Smith Goes to Washington" is still a classic that accurately describes what was going on in DC then, and still is today.

(Where's Jimmy Stewart when you need him, anyway??  :laugh: )
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2016, 09:34:09 pm »
I've seen it  a million times..absolutely shocking stories..  men and women I would never suspect.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2016, 09:36:32 pm »


I hate the way you put your responses inside other posts, pete.  Could you do it like everyone else some time??

First, I am NOT "offended" by your stupid use of Church Lady.  I am amused that you actually think it has meaning.  I mean you're bright.  Why post meaningless things that make your 'victims' laugh at you?

As for "sentencing" you.......that's another meaningless, stupid comment.  I never said you didn't have the right to watch garbage.  Go ahead.  Fill your brain with whatever nastiness makes you feel good.

I'm just stating clearly, that if Hollywood hadn't self-censored, some of the greatest movies and greatest acting in history wouldn't exist, so I'm glad they had the SENSE to stop making dopey "sophisticated" movies in the early 30's and started making REAL films.

Enjoy whatever you want.  Just don't reduce yourself to calling people names whose tastes are more developed that your own.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2016, 09:58:05 pm »

I hate the way you put your responses inside other posts, pete.  Could you do it like everyone else some time??


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I agree with music lady re the formatting of your posts. This place is hard enough to navigate without someone throwing a wrench in it.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2016, 10:08:56 pm »
@sneakypete
@musiclady

I agree with music lady re the formatting of your posts. This place is hard enough to navigate without someone throwing a wrench in it.

(For as awful as TOS has become, I will always give them massive kudos for navigability. How I  miss being able to follow a conversation between people and omit all the other posts on the thread.)

I think pete likes to throw wrenches in things, just for the heck of it.  ^-^

As for the navigation stuff, I agree.  But it's SO much better here where there is free thought, free speech, and an absence of that stupid Trump echo chamber there, that it's worth a little more effort to find things.

The "mentions" that was added not long ago, helps, but most folks don't do it.  And I only do if my response is long enough after the original post.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2016, 10:27:29 pm »
@sneakypete
@musiclady

I agree with music lady re the formatting of your posts. This place is hard enough to navigate without someone throwing a wrench in it.

(For as awful as TOS has become, I will always give them massive kudos for navigability. How I  miss being able to follow a conversation between people and omit all the other posts on the thread.)

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I really don't get it. I snip off the part I am quoting and reply directly below that in bold so there is a clear difference between what I am quoting and what I am writing. I honestly don't see how this causes any confusion. In fact,I do it to make it less confusing. If it's daylight hours I am usually out in my shop working on one of my cars and trucks,and come in the house to take a break and think about what I am doing and try to figure out a better way to do it. While doing this I am usually posting here and having what I am replying to directly above what I am writing makes it simpler for me to keep focused.

If it's after dark,I am usually watching tv at the same time and posting during commercials or when something is on I don't care much about.

When I am making one reply to a post I do it the traditional way,but to ME it makes sense to segment the original post and reply to each segment when trying to make different points.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2016, 10:47:27 pm »
@musiclady   @AllThatJazzZ

I really don't get it. I snip off the part I am quoting and reply directly below that in bold so there is a clear difference between what I am quoting and what I am writing. I honestly don't see how this causes any confusion. In fact,I do it to make it less confusing. If it's daylight hours I am usually out in my shop working on one of my cars and trucks,and come in the house to take a break and think about what I am doing and try to figure out a better way to do it. While doing this I am usually posting here and having what I am replying to directly above what I am writing makes it simpler for me to keep focused.

If it's after dark,I am usually watching tv at the same time and posting during commercials or when something is on I don't care much about.

When I am making one reply to a post I do it the traditional way,but to ME it makes sense to segment the original post and reply to each segment when trying to make different points.

The problem is when we quote you, there's nothing there....... it's blank.  It makes it harder to respond to, not harder to read.  I have to go back and find your original post to make sure I'm not misquoting you, rather than seeing it in the quote.

It's not that big a deal, but it causes confusion for people responding to you and wanting to be accurate.

That was my only point.
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I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #98 on: October 26, 2016, 10:53:41 pm »
I have a right to share my opinion and I will. "I watched an episode and didn't like it" was the only thing I was going to post until I saw all the hate and filth sent towards those of us with standards.

The problem many of us have isn't towards people who don't like the show or things like it, but what I called "Ned Flanders" types I referred to earlier. Those are the ones who try to get the government to force their will.  It is in reference to a Simpson's character who in several episodes, was a big government activist watching every single TV show and complaining to the government about every bad word or anything he objected to in order to get them taken off the air. In another episode, he was put in charge of the city's CCTV system and watched and tried to correct every single person's bad behavior.  Basically a SJW.

Using the government in that way is what we find offensive, not someone who has personal standards what they watch.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #99 on: October 26, 2016, 11:09:56 pm »
Just like those of us who oppose Trump on moral grounds are accused of being 'Ned Flanders types' ...
Darn, I thought we'd get through an entire thread without an unnecessary mention of Trump.
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